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Greens leader Richard Di Natale as stoked the fire with his idea of a four day working week to give families more together time, and to also relieve parents of financial burdens around nursery payments, good idea or not?

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Greens leader Richard Di Natale as stoked the fire with his idea of a four day working week to give families more together time, and to also relieve parents of financial burdens around nursery payments, good idea or not?
yes, let the robots pick up the slack.
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Not sure it equates to more family time together? The same hours away from the home and schools are atill 5 days a week. Also I can see that being a further nail in the coffin for those that rely on penalty rates.

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Greens leader Richard Di Natale as stoked the fire with his idea of a four day working week to give families more together time, and to also relieve parents of financial burdens around nursery payments, good idea or not?

 

 

You all must work too much

 

We enjoy 3.5 days per week

 

Either: Sunday Monday Tuesday and Wednesday AM

Or: Wednesday PM, Thursday, Friday Saturday.

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I work a four day week but I don't work full time hours over 4 days. I actually work two half days these days but I used to work four days and have three none working days. I would highly recommend it to everyone but I appreciate for some the financial implications would make it impractical. Trying to work full time hours over four days would be a nightmare unless you worked from home and had zero commute time - you would be out of the house for forever and what are your kids supposed to do on those days? Some kids are left in childcare for long hours already, they would hardly be home if working days got any longer.


Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain but it takes character and self control to be understanding and forgiving.

Dale Carnegie – 1888-1955, Author and Lecturer

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I was under the impression that he is suggesting/proposing 4x6hr days. Pie in the sky IMO.

I wonder how many proper jobs he's held, not counting political positions.

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I wonder how many proper jobs he's held, not counting political positions.

 

He was a GP. Has also worked in public health positions - Aboriginal health in the NT, HIV prevention in India and drug and alcohol treatment in Oz.

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what about "real" jobs?
what's a real job? My son asked me to get a real job when he was little. One that involved making things out of wood rather than just 'mucking about with computers'.

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I was under the impression that he is suggesting/proposing 4x6hr days. Pie in the sky IMO.

I wonder how many proper jobs he's held, not counting political positions.

 

He's obviously not held one in health


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He's obviously not held one in health

 

I couldn't edit - meant community MH, although I've now seen he was a GP - would be bliss to work a 6 hour shift and no weekends


I just want PIO to be a happy place where people are nice to each other and unicorns poop rainbows

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he is a joker, has he acttually worked out how a 4 day week can be achieved.


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Every time this joker opens his mouth with one of his little gems, the world laughs! He has absolutely no idea what real life is actually like... wasn't he prosecuted for underpaying his au pair? Total Greenie Tosser!


......Just trying to be helpful so don't shoot me down if my personal views do not coincide with yours! :animal-dog:

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he is a joker, has he acttually worked out how a 4 day week can be achieved.

 

Work four days have three off simples to quote a certain foreign meerkat:smile:

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Work four days have three off simples to quote a certain foreign meerkat:smile:
my car share works a four day week, 32 hours. Didn't Sweden try something like it? Remember, we used to work much longer hours.

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less hours mean less pay.


Drinking rum before 11am does not make you an alcoholic, it makes you pirate..

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I couldn't afford this as a single parent. Heck my shitty pay call centre job is bad enough over 5 days!!

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The Greens just have no grasp on reality.


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Personally think it is a great idea. Work to live not live to work

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No one is saying it isn't a great idea, the point is it isnt workable.


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I only work approximately 16 hours a week, sometimes more if needed and it is lovely, however I'm not the main wage earner and I don't need the extra hours but many I work with do and they also need the penalty rates that they get. Bring in a four day week that will all go and potentially the tax payer is going to have to fund the shortage in wages via Centrelink payments so it really is completely unworkable.

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The more I hear from this guy the more I think he lives in a different World. Great idea and me and the wife are probably in a position where we could afford to do it. We are close to retirement, have not much of a mortgage. Most people couldn't afford to do it.

It's like all the talk I've seen recently about how soon there is going to have to be a "living wage" paid to people whether they work or not. As a lot of jobs are going to disappear due to technology. Sounds great in theory.

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Jobs will disappear due to technology, but new ones will be created. Just as with every other technological change in the history of the world. Not much call for IT network specialists 30 years ago. Not much call for aeroplane engineers/airport staff 70 years ago. Not much call for car mechanics/salesmen/designers 100 years ago. Not much call for steelworkers 150 years ago....and so on

 

It would be great to have a 4 day working week but what you're actually talking about is a fundamental shift in the way western society is structured. If the cost of living was lower to allow for this then people would work more and stuff the extra cash in something that then inflates the price of that - a second home or something. Pushing the cost of living back up and knocking it on the head

 

Policy consideration to dealing with the reality of a lot of people working more flexibly/inconsistently/part time would be a better (and bigger) picture for governments to consider. For example, the bulk of the income taxation system relies on people having steady regular jobs and the assessment and collection of tax is mostly done by payroll departments. Does that suit a future where people are working on a much more fragmented basis?

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Indeed.

 

We are moving more and more towards a gig economy so it may be more of an involuntary rather than a voluntary thing anyway. Also as people move into a professional contractor/freelancer type role they pick their own hours and it is more output based. I know many people who work a 4 day week, 9 day fortnight, compressed weeks (same hours over fewer days) or work from home a couple of days per week. They all say that they are more productive as they focus more. The recent Swedish experiment to 6 hour workdays showing little to no reduction in productivity as people came in, focussed on their tasks and got out. They stopped doing personal stuff on work time (facebooking, internet forums etc). Is it sustainable or would people revert to the status quo over a shorter day - who knows?

 

Technology is disrupting everything. It started with blue collar processing repetitive task type jobs but is very much moving into the white collar professions (ask any accountant). The whole way society works and is financed will change radically in the next 50 years. I actually think the basic living wage concept will become a reality in time with people working to top it up for lifestyle. It's how you finance it is the problem? robots paying income tax (Bill Gates's idea) or something else.

 

Self driving vehicles are not that far away (<10 years) - taxi, uber, truck driver jobs gone (or phased out).

Think internet/app banking - how many times have you gone/had to go into a branch in the last year? I barely even use cash anymore.

Email/online billing - reduction in postal volumes etc.

 

There will be swings and roundabouts

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