ali Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I assume they have a relationship with a recruitment agency and they would just manage that process. Migrate abroad has been used recently by another forum member who recommended their services hence why I contacted them. They are about the same price and offer this additional recruitment service. I always think very hard before parting with money! We always advise using a MARA registered migration agent - you're taking a big chance if they're not ETA - you would still require permission to remove the children - if the ex says no then you would need to go through the courts. Edited February 20, 2016 by ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Have you considered also that moving your step daughters at the age of 15 and 16 could make things difficult with their future education choices? If Australia - for whatever reason - doesn't work out, and you returned to the UK, they may not be able to get into a UK University on local fees having not lived there for the three years previously, and international fees are pretty high... Also, as someone who is currently living in SA, I think anyone that confidently tells you they could find you a job here is probably doing so with fingers crossed behind their back - SA has the highest unemployment in Australia at the moment (6.8%) and will probably get worse before it gets better, and I don't think WA is a lot better at the moment either! Just a couple of other considerations to throw into the mix.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can1983 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Have you considered also that moving your step daughters at the age of 15 and 16 could make things difficult with their future education choices? If Australia - for whatever reason - doesn't work out, and you returned to the UK, they may not be able to get into a UK University on local fees having not lived there for the three years previously, and international fees are pretty high... Also, as someone who is currently living in SA, I think anyone that confidently tells you they could find you a job here is probably doing so with fingers crossed behind their back - SA has the highest unemployment in Australia at the moment (6.8%) and will probably get worse before it gets better, and I don't think WA is a lot better at the moment either! Just a couple of other considerations to throw into the mix.... To to put it in perspective though for every 100 people actively wanting to work 93 have a job so it's not all that bad surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 To to put it in perspective though for every 100 people actively wanting to work 93 have a job so it's not all that bad surely Well 'have a job' is a very misleading term. Having a short term, part time job with no guarantee of hours, and no job security still counts as 'having a job', but doesn't help if you have a mortgage to pay... And for school-leavers and graduates, having 10 hours a week working at McDonalds even though they are qualified nurses/engineers etc still counts as 'having a job'..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Also I am betting that recent migrants are not included in that figure as they cannot claim unemployment benefits for two years after settling. Certainly in Adelaide local networks are often key in finding work, making it hard for newcomers to get a start. Local experience is also preferred for many jobs so employers will choose someone who has this over a recent migrant. Not the best time to come TBH, but it can depend on what industry you are looking at and how your experience will translate to the Australian market. Sorry but things are not great here at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 If he is not happy, then he can easily and simply just say no. Of Course he could, but we would only need his permission for the 15 year old. If he change his mind then it would go to court, if we lost, then she will come off the visa. A separate visa would then be lodged when she is 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 Have you considered also that moving your step daughters at the age of 15 and 16 could make things difficult with their future education choices? If Australia - for whatever reason - doesn't work out, and you returned to the UK, they may not be able to get into a UK University on local fees having not lived there for the three years previously, and international fees are pretty high... Also, as someone who is currently living in SA, I think anyone that confidently tells you they could find you a job here is probably doing so with fingers crossed behind their back - SA has the highest unemployment in Australia at the moment (6.8%) and will probably get worse before it gets better, and I don't think WA is a lot better at the moment either! Just a couple of other considerations to throw into the mix.... Yes, I have thought about this.... This was generally my train of thought.... Faith would like to be a Vet (exotic vet), veterinary school in Australia is a lot cheaper. Timing would be everything. If we left it too late Faith would not have enough time to settle into the SA school system so would ruin her chances. If we don't do it now we won't ever be able to do it. Nothing will be taken lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 Also I am betting that recent migrants are not included in that figure as they cannot claim unemployment benefits for two years after settling. Certainly in Adelaide local networks are often key in finding work, making it hard for newcomers to get a start. Local experience is also preferred for many jobs so employers will choose someone who has this over a recent migrant. Not the best time to come TBH, but it can depend on what industry you are looking at and how your experience will translate to the Australian market. Sorry but things are not great here at the moment. I work in Insurance, from what I see there are quite a few vacancies within this industry. I would get my Tier 1 qualification before I come out. Insurance I have found is not really a career path for people. We 'fall into it' and once we are in we do not leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks22 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hate to crash the party and I am certainly no expert but... unless you get a PR visa I think your daughter would be treated as an international student, which may well hike the price of education considerably. I am waiting for my EOI to be granted and I have 75 points. I am a degree level nurse and on the SOL. I achieved the 20 points for the IELTS. I studied hard for that and I know from friends who have done it, I was very lucky to get the 20 points. If your job isn't on the sol/csol and your education and experience would not get you a positive skills assessment through your assessing authority then you will not achieve the points you are hoping for. I am highly qualified/ experienced for my field and scored 75, which is higher than expected, solely due to the unexpected IELTS result. Your partner would have to have a positive assessment too to claim for the points there, which is costly. I hope you do make it and it all works out well, but I'm struggling to see where the PR case is and sponsorship is becoming rarer now. I would get yourself a list of MARA registered agents and contact at least 5 for free assessment of your points. If they all think there is a way then you can feel confident. If several say no, then the ones telling you you can may be out for a quick buck (far less likley if they are MARA). Good luck in your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hate to crash the party and I am certainly no expert but... unless you get a PR visa I think your daughter would be treated as an international student, which may well hike the price of education considerably. I am waiting for my EOI to be granted and I have 75 points. I am a degree level nurse and on the SOL. I achieved the 20 points for the IELTS. I studied hard for that and I know from friends who have done it, I was very lucky to get the 20 points. If your job isn't on the sol/csol and your education and experience would not get you a positive skills assessment through your assessing authority then you will not achieve the points you are hoping for. I am highly qualified/ experienced for my field and scored 75, which is higher than expected, solely due to the unexpected IELTS result. Your partner would have to have a positive assessment too to claim for the points there, which is costly. I hope you do make it and it all works out well, but I'm struggling to see where the PR case is and sponsorship is becoming rarer now. I would get yourself a list of MARA registered agents and contact at least 5 for free assessment of your points. If they all think there is a way then you can feel confident. If several say no, then the ones telling you you can may be out for a quick buck (far less likley if they are MARA). Good luck in your search. Thanks for your input Becks. It is only PR i would be interested in. My job is on the CSOL but as it stands only SA will sponsor with 85 points. I would ensure I get the max points in IELTS. My partner has more experience than me in the same industry on the CSOL so if I test positive chances are she would and the cost is something I would happily pay. I have contacted Alan Collett from this forum who comes highly recommended to run through everything... who knows their may be other options. I know 85 points is high it would only be a possibility if I can get a positive assessment for my 8 years experience to score max points... However after doing a lot more research the on the AQF framework it seems the info I had was out of date so I do not have the Australian diploma equivalent.... so now I am looking into RPL (I would need to score the points from this too).... but I also have my fingers crossed for the refresh in July. So right now things are still possible (I love positivity). So for you I take it you did not need state sponsorship (5 points) or partner skills (5 points) were you older than 32 (-5 points compared to me) how many years experience did you claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks22 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 No Ive gone for the indpendent 189. I'm 36 so lost points on age but did have the full experience points so that helped too. If it's a go'er for you then I cannot recommend enough getting a proper IELTS study book. I am convinced that studying this helped me get the max points as there are definite "tricks" to get more points! I would go with positivity too, I love Adelaide and can't wait to arrive there for our new improved life! Hope Alan can give you some great pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickbock Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 No Ive gone for the indpendent 189. I'm 36 so lost points on age but did have the full experience points so that helped too. If it's a go'er for you then I cannot recommend enough getting a proper IELTS study book. I am convinced that studying this helped me get the max points as there are definite "tricks" to get more points! I would go with positivity too, I love Adelaide and can't wait to arrive there for our new improved life! Hope Alan can give you some great pointers. why Adelaide Becks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks22 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 why Adelaide Becks? Well, I originally decided on Adelaide about 8/9 years ago after reading a friends book on Oz whilst waiting for them to cook dinner! The more I researched about it the more it started to really appeal. I've now been there with the family and totally sold, plus it turned out that an old friend married an adelaidian so we spent time with them whilst we were out there so it seems more familiar. coming from Norfolk, I love the fact that its got a bit of history, has a rural feeling, but easy access to festivals and has great public transport links, which is Norfolk's big downfall in my opinion. The beaches are also amazing. Some people complain about the chilly sea, but having grown up next to the North sea, this doesn't bother me! When we were there, the scenery was spectacular, the local wine exceptional, people were really friendly, the food amazing and lots and lots of outdoor activities to do with the kids which cost nothing. I also like the fact that we can drive Melbourne, which is a bit like us going to Scotland, but we would get beautiful scenery in transit too rather than the A1! The whole feeling of the place sold it to us very quickly. Plus the roads are wide and I didn't sit behind a single tractor. The weather is quite mediterranian which also appeals greatly. I'm sure a lot of these things are present in other parts of Australia but when you step off the plane in a new country and feel totally at home, it has to be a good sign. Easy to get to lots of places and there was a nice cafe culture and I loved the fact that you could move around central adeliade on the tram for free, plus for some sporting events we saw free bus travel with a ticket to the game advertised. Seems a very inclusive place to e. I'm qute sure it has it's downsides but the pluses ar enough for us to be sure it's where we want to be. Sorry it's so long, I really love the place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Yes, I have thought about this.... This was generally my train of thought.... Faith would like to be a Vet (exotic vet), veterinary school in Australia is a lot cheaper. Timing would be everything. If we left it too late Faith would not have enough time to settle into the SA school system so would ruin her chances. If we don't do it now we won't ever be able to do it. Nothing will be taken lightly. I think you have misunderstood the post. What I think she was trying to say is this. If you found yourself returning to the UK and about one in three do, then she would be classed as none resident for university and be required to pay international fees and recieve no assistance. If if she went to uni in oz, she will be a none citizen. That means only limited assistance and only citizens can claim HECS - the oz version of the student loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just my opinion. But i find it unbelievable the amount of money some people are paying,to these rip off merchant,for a visa application to get to Australia. And then Getting to Rip Off City and Pay More. Australia is so overrated. Why don't people just come for a holiday.And Look for a job while they are here.And if they a lucky enough to find a employer that wants to take them on,He/she will sponsor you.There are so many Horror Stories of People spending Thousands,then when they get here,the Australians don't recognise their qualifications.My neighbor's son has spent a fortune,he has a good job in the UK on the Railways. He spent 30,000 pounds.having interviews in the UK by Australians that were sent to the UK to interview him at his expense.He finally got here,after 2 years jumping through hoops.But now he has to do a 2 year course in Australia ,before he is qualified to Australian standards.Then to add cream to the Cake,his parents,that came out here, to be with their daughter who is a staff nurse.Have been refused permanent residency,after they had a new house built, they wouldn't let them buy a used house.They Thought When they Could only have a new house built, they would let them stay But no They said that was never agreed to So what could they Do?.They have to leave Australia every year,and come back after a year absence.Unless they pay the Australian Government $500,000. They can't have any medical treatment at all,without paying.Knowing Australia as i do.They would have to pay me to come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just my opinion. But i find it unbelievable the amount of money some people are paying,to these rip off merchant,for a visa application to get to Australia. And then Getting to Rip Off City and Pay More.Australia is so overrated. Why don't people just come for a holiday.And Look for a job while they are here.And if they a lucky enough to find a employer that wants to take them on,He/she will sponsor you.There are so many Horror Stories of People spending Thousands,then when they get here,the Australians don't recognise their qualifications.My neighbor's son has spent a fortune,he has a good job in the UK on the Railways. He spent 30,000 pounds.having interviews in the UK by Australians that were sent to the UK to interview him at his expense.He finally got here,after 2 years jumping through hoops.But now he has to do a 2 year course in Australia ,before he is qualified to Australian standards.Then to add cream to the Cake,his parents,that came out here, to be with their daughter who is a staff nurse.Have been refused permanent residency,after they had a new house built, they wouldn't let them buy a used house.They Thought When they Could only have a new house built, they would let them stay But no They said that was never agreed to So what could they Do?.They have to leave Australia every year,and come back after a year absence.Unless they pay the Australian Government $500,000. They can't have any medical treatment at all,without paying.Knowing Australia as i do.They would have to pay me to come here. There is so much more opinion than fact in this post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockinTas Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Zack needs to vent occasionally. He whinged about the UK when he moved there for a while too. 'We moved back 5 months ago after 27 years in Aus.What a disaster from the go.Can't wait to get back to reality and peopl;e in authority that treat you as a fellow humane.Perpetual darkness; rain,bitter cold,and it's been a mild winter.The whole system sucks,Age discrimination is rife.Car insurance,utillity bills,council tax, ALL GANGSTERS,Wanting Huge sums of money.It's a up hill battle,nobody cares.Theres no light at the end of a big dark tunnel.Rules and regulations,security questions,drives you potty.Checking who you are,the credit system.The banks are run by the Mafia.My god it's a nightmare". AND "Don't think of coming back to the UK,unless your well off.Britain is the THE RIP OFF CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.Tax is all they think of,they will tax you on everything.Only the very wealthy and certain companies,get away without paying any tax.The Tories are in power.For the masses it's MISERY and POVERTY.But thank god only till 2015,the count down is on.Don't believe a word about what you read or hear,There is no recovery.Age discrination is rampant.Try to get insurance for a car,You can't even hire one if you are over 70.or get life insurance.Utility companies,insurance companies,councils,banks.Are all just gansters.Australia believe me is the only place to live.Well and truly named THE LUCKY COUNTRY.After 5 long months,we have learnt our lesson.They say the older you get the wiser you get.Not true in our case. As soon as we can sell up,we are on our way back". Edited February 28, 2016 by JockinTas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderDrinkingCoder Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Weird, in a way. When folk whinge like that, without any sense of grammar or punctuation, it makes me want to have a bit of a vent, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Wall Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I would say if you need 20 points for English, lookin to the Pearson PTE exam. I took thar advice from this forum, sat the exam last week and got superior first time. I would get 60 solid points and go with that. I've got work experience, but that is going to count towards my qualification, so as such could not claim for it. I'll have 30 for age, 20 for English and 10 for a qualification recognised by the skills assessment. That it. I'm a fire alarm engineer, and Electronic Equipment Trades Worker is on the SOL, with fire alarm technician as a specialisation. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 That's so True i have to Admit.It must have been the Drugs I was on at the time.What can i say.But Now hopefully i have come back to my senses.They say there's no fool like a old fool? Reading Those two posts you have dug up.Were True at the time,i let little things like the car insurance,the banks etc get me down.Little Did i know things have changed so much in Australia now.I have to Correct what i said about my neighbours, having to stay out of the country for 12 months,that's not true.By law they can Stay out one day, and come back in.Then stay for 12 months. As they Still have a house in the UK they stay there for 6 months,then come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 That's so True i have to Admit.It must have been the Drugs I was on at the time.What can i say.But Now hopefully i have come back to my senses.They say there's no fool like a old fool? Reading Those two posts you have dug up.Were True at the time,i let little things like the car insurance,the banks etc get me down.Little Did i know things have changed so much in Australia now.I have to Correct what i said about my neighbours, having to stay out of the country for 12 months,that's not true.By law they can Stay out one day, and come back in.Then stay for 12 months. As they Still have a house in the UK they stay there for 6 months,then come back. Then it sounds like they are trying to live here while only holding a tourist visa. Maybe they should read the rules. Equally one cannot just come her, find an employer and get sponsorship. There is a lot more to it than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymike90 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I understand there's another discussion going on here but I am looking on moving over to Australia within the next 2 to 3 years and wondering how I would go about it? I'm a qualified music teacher with multiple diplomas and awards from the Royal college of music in London, would that help me in anyway or is it all about the money which I've seen people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I understand there's another discussion going on here but I am looking on moving over to Australia within the next 2 to 3 years and wondering how I would go about it? I'm a qualified music teacher with multiple diplomas and awards from the Royal college of music in London, would that help me in anyway or is it all about the money which I've seen people It's not about the money at all...it's about whether your occupation is on the list which would qualify you for a work visa in Australia. There are 2 lists - SOL and CSOL - which you can find here: https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I understand there's another discussion going on here but I am looking on moving over to Australia within the next 2 to 3 years and wondering how I would go about it? I'm a qualified music teacher with multiple diplomas and awards from the Royal college of music in London, would that help me in anyway or is it all about the money which I've seen people It's not all about money, it's about whether the Australian Government thinks the country needs your skills. If there are already plenty of locals who can do the job, they don't want to encourage people to come to Australia and end up unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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