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Hi to everyone

we are looking for a bit of guidance as regards aged parent visas, we are seriously concidering applying for an 864 visa.

My questions are, as you have to be in Australia to apply, can you travel there on a tourist visa and without a return flight booked?

It's causing a bit of friction in our house as my Wife thinks we'll get sent home!

I hope someone has the answers or the experience

 

Geoff

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If you go on a tourist visa then you are expected to be a tourist and, indeed, if you do rock up and appear not to be bone fide tourists you could well find yourself turned around at the border. Far easier to go with the CPV then you have no worries about entry.

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Hi to everyone

we are looking for a bit of guidance as regards aged parent visas, we are seriously concidering applying for an 864 visa.

My questions are, as you have to be in Australia to apply, can you travel there on a tourist visa and without a return flight booked?

It's causing a bit of friction in our house as my Wife thinks we'll get sent home!

I hope someone has the answers or the experience

 

Geoff

 

The 864 in a "Contributory Aged Parent Visa" which is different to the "Aged Parent Visa".

 

Are you aware that the Immigration fees and bond for this visa will be in excess of $100,000?


Raul T Senise

Registered Migration Agent

MARN 0636699

www.ozimmigration.com

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur."

 

 

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Thanks for the quick reply

I was thinking that as you can only apply for that visa onshore, how you arrived, as long as its legally, wouldn't matter. We are almost at retirement and to wait a couple of years seems waisted as we could spend the time with our family in Oz.

 

 

Geoff

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Thanks for the reply,

yes I've seen the costs involved, and we are not loaded, but we can get residency and after 10 years would reduce the threat of financial burden to our family because of our large initial outlay.

 

Geoff

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You can visit whilst waiting for your CPV to be approved I believe. So if you're planning on the CPV, apply now and take a holiday in the interim.

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Have a look on poms in adeleide. There is a sticky thread that gives you lots of information on this subject.

 

chris x


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Hi to everyone

we are looking for a bit of guidance as regards aged parent visas, we are seriously concidering applying for an 864 visa.

My questions are, as you have to be in Australia to apply, can you travel there on a tourist visa and without a return flight booked?

It's causing a bit of friction in our house as my Wife thinks we'll get sent home!

I hope someone has the answers or the experience

 

Geoff

 

If you're going to go around the system why apply for an 864 Contributory Visa? Why not apply for a (non-contributory) Aged Parent Visa? As long as you don't have a "No further stay" on your visa and meet the requirements you can apply for either of these visas while in Australia. If of course it's obvious what you're planning when you rock up you will get put on the next plane back but considering how many tourists arrive from the UK I'm not sure how they'd spot that. I'd recommend having a return flight booked - but some (genuine) tourists do arrive without that so it's not necessarily a give away.


Chartered Accountant (England & Wales); Registered Tax Agent & Fellow of The Tax Institute (Australia)

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Have a look on poms in adeleide. There is a sticky thread that gives you lots of information on this subject.

 

chris x

Thanks for that Chris, will have a look now

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As you said yourself Little Grandad, you apply for the 864 onshore.

Every decent Migration Agent I've spoken to acknowledges that in order to do that, you need to arrive on a tourist visa.

Technically speaking, a tourist visa is for a temporary visit, but of course once there you can decide to apply for the 864 and stay - you will get a Bridging Visa & the grant time is only a few months . You're paying well for the privilege and this is perfectly in order.

The 804 by comparison is years & years . No contest.

If you're in any doubt, before you make a final decision ring around some MARA agents re. the legalities.

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If you're going to go around the system why apply for an 864 Contributory Visa? Why not apply for a (non-contributory) Aged Parent Visa? As long as you don't have a "No further stay" on your visa and meet the requirements you can apply for either of these visas while in Australia. If of course it's obvious what you're planning when you rock up you will get put on the next plane back but considering how many tourists arrive from the UK I'm not sure how they'd spot that. I'd recommend having a return flight booked - but some (genuine) tourists do arrive without that so it's not necessarily a give away.

We've heard stories that people have been sent back to UK whilst on the very long waiting times for the non contributory visas, especially if you were to do anything classed as work, its a one way ticket back!

We are undecided as yet but thanks for the replies as we can put them all together and hopefully reach the best option for us

 

Geoff

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As you said yourself Little Grandad, you apply for the 864 onshore.

Every decent Migration Agent I've spoken to acknowledges that in order to do that, you need to arrive on a tourist visa.

Technically speaking, a tourist visa is for a temporary visit, but of course once there you can decide to apply for the 864 and stay - you will get a Bridging Visa & the grant time is only a few months . You're paying well for the privilege and this is perfectly in order.

The 804 by comparison is years & years . No contest.

If you're in any doubt, before you make a final decision ring around some MARA agents re. the legalities.

So you think we'll get some free advice? I'll get my family in Oz to look up some local agents who l could perhaps e'mail. Thanks for the advice

 

Geoff

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Have a look on poms in adeleide. There is a sticky thread that gives you lots of information on this subject.

 

chris x

I've looked at poms in Adelaide, good tip lots and lots on there, thanks again

Geoff

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So you think we'll get some free advice? I'll get my family in Oz to look up some local agents who l could perhaps e'mail. Thanks for the advice

 

Geoff

 

No need to do that, there are some highly recommended MARA registered agents right here on the forums!


Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband applied UK spouse visa Jan 2015, granted March 2015, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016

"The stranger who comes home does not make himself at home but makes home itself strange." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

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No need to do that, there are some highly recommended MARA registered agents right here on the forums!

Thanks I'll have a look at some of them

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Hello Geoff.

 

You are welcome to send a PM or email to me (click on my name to the left of this post) to explore the options and the risks of applying onshore versus offshore, and Contributory versus non-Contributory.

 

Best regards.


Managing Director, Go Matilda Visas - www.gomatilda.com

Registered Migration Agent Number 0102534; Registered Tax Agent (Australia)

Chartered Accountant (UK, and Australia)

T - 023 81 66 11 55 (UK) or 03 9935 2929 (Australia)

E - alan.collett@gomatilda.com

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