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That's absolutely how I feel too. All I want is scotland to be able to decide its future, there's no hatred towards England from me. I'm too soft for all that stuff, I get hurt when I see all the horrible comments about scotland in the media or social media. I need to toughen up lol. I don't understand why anybody has any problem with us wanting real power. I would be happy to see the rest of the UK have more powers devolved to their cities etc. If they found it hard to swallow the idea of a SNP labour coalition then think about it would be like for us controlling nearly all of their matters from Edinburgh? Would they be happy with that? Just because something has been there for hundreds of years doesn't mean it still works

 

Stacey I don't get hurt when I read the comments I get bloody angry and really want to lash out at the ignorant people making them. However, that's pretty useless, unless you can face them. So, bad english grammar but it is my second language, i think, here's tae us wha's like us damn few an they're aw deid.

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I get angry too sometimes but mostly just feel a bit hurt. Loads of idiots out there though in every part of the world so just have to remember that. Ive had it face to face before in the Channel Islands. I got asked about 10 times a day about the referendum and I always had to brace myself because I knew they usually shoved their opinion down my throat. One day I had a woman ranting at me about how scotland was subsidised by the English and we would be nothing without them etc. Drove me mad and that was before Id even decided what way to vote

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Stacey I don't get hurt when I read the comments I get bloody angry and really want to lash out at the ignorant people making them. However, that's pretty useless, unless you can face them. So, bad english grammar but it is my second language, i think, here's tae us wha's like us damn few an they're aw deid.

 

Well you are Scottish so not surprising.:wink:

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Why on earth would there be another referendum ?

If you have a referendum and are on the losing side do you keep asking for another hoping for a a different result.

 

Maybe in another 20 years or 30 years time, but not before that.

 

Yes; there's recent precedence :-)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2122654/EU-referendum-Ireland-rejects-Lisbon-Treaty.html

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/04/ireland-votes-yes-lisbon-treaty

 

The Netherlands also rejected the same Lisbon Treaty and like Ireland, they too were forced back to the ballot box a couple of years later.

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Yes; there's recent precedence :-)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2122654/EU-referendum-Ireland-rejects-Lisbon-Treaty.html

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/04/ireland-votes-yes-lisbon-treaty

 

The Netherlands also rejected the same Lisbon Treaty and like Ireland, they too were forced back to the ballot box a couple of years later.

 

If the vote goes the other way perhaps they should do it again. Best of 3 perhaps. :wink:

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I get angry too sometimes but mostly just feel a bit hurt. Loads of idiots out there though in every part of the world so just have to remember that. Ive had it face to face before in the Channel Islands. I got asked about 10 times a day about the referendum and I always had to brace myself because I knew they usually shoved their opinion down my throat. One day I had a woman ranting at me about how scotland was subsidised by the English and we would be nothing without them etc. Drove me mad and that was before Id even decided what way to vote

 

A friend of mine (a yes voter) actually unfriended someone on FB (another yes voter), because they become so vitriollic during the campaign she really saw a differnt side to them and didn't like it

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A friend of mine (a yes voter) actually unfriended someone on FB (another yes voter), because they become so vitriollic during the campaign she really saw a differnt side to them and didn't like it

 

Of course there are some. I've cringed at a few on Twitter. Think of how many yes people there are - SNP, labour, Green etc. I'm not pretending everyone's perfect and there won't be some who are horrible or anti english. I'm just saying the majority don't. Speaking about deleting stuff - I was a member of another forum. There was always jokes about scotland but nothing too bad, just banter mostly. I went on the other day and couldn't believe some of the people and comments Totally changed. I've left it because I don't need to deliberately read that kind of stuff. They can stew in their hatred.

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Of course there are some. I've cringed at a few on Twitter. Think of how many yes people there are - SNP, labour, Green etc. I'm not pretending everyone's perfect and there won't be some who are horrible or anti english. I'm just saying the majority don't. Speaking about deleting stuff - I was a member of another forum. There was always jokes about scotland but nothing too bad, just banter mostly. I went on the other day and couldn't believe some of the people and comments Totally changed. I've left it because I don't need to deliberately read that kind of stuff. They can stew in their hatred.

 

 

I've been quite shocked by peoples inability to accept other peoples political opinions and posts without getting all pathetic and defensive about their own beliefs. It kind of reveals how 'open-minded' and non-judgemental people actually are....few surprises tbh

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Shh you northerners are just as bad lol or are you Midlands? I can't remember

 

Derbyshire Stacey and you're right. Just about every time we went to Sheffield on stag does we would end up in a brawl, just because they can spot the accent.:laugh: It would normally start off with a dance with a girl then an accusation from someone from Yorkshire saying we were coming over the border pinching their women.:laugh:

 

The bouncers would always side with the Sheffield locals and we would be left wandering the streets until the bus came to pick us up.

 

Worst I've ever seen though we made the mistake of going to Scarborough in Glasgow fortnight. Protestants and Catholics fighting amongst themselves until they realised that there were a bunch of English guys in the pub and they suddenly joined forces and picked on us.:confused:

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Of course there are some. I've cringed at a few on Twitter. Think of how many yes people there are - SNP, labour, Green etc. I'm not pretending everyone's perfect and there won't be some who are horrible or anti english. I'm just saying the majority don't. Speaking about deleting stuff - I was a member of another forum. There was always jokes about scotland but nothing too bad, just banter mostly. I went on the other day and couldn't believe some of the people and comments Totally changed. I've left it because I don't need to deliberately read that kind of stuff. They can stew in their hatred.

 

I left a forum because of a similar change too, stopped being an enjoyable place to visit.

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My prediction of an overall majority of 20 for the Tories seems to have been nearest.

I think David Cameron has a tough task, but he has shown he is up to it.

I do feel a bit sorry for the LibDems. They knew when they joined the Coalition that they would pay a heavy electoral price. For years they have benefited from being either the "not the Labour Party Party", or the "not the Tory Party Party." A lot of Labour voters historically voted for them in seats where Labour had no chance, eg Vince Cable's seat, but this time there was a lot less tactical voting, and Labour voters returned to Labour. The LibDems acted in the National Interest, the only possible coalition was with the Tories, so for the sake of the country they signed up. All their natural instincts would have been to the left, and had a coalition with Labour been possible, that is the way they would have gone.

This makes Labour's vote look even worse. If lots of people deserted the LibDems, and returned to Labour, where did all Labour's former voters go? It's just lucky for Labour that the SNP didn't stand in England as well, because Labour might have been down to a dozen or so seats. I don't even think it's Milliband's sole fault. He was elected Labour Leader not by the Tories, (although unless John Prescott had run he would have been the Tories choice). One has to question if there is any need or relevance for a Socialist Party in 21st Century Politics? They still seem behind the 8 ball on economic competence, after all, the last three Labour Governments have each separately bankrupted the country...........the only consistent Socialist Policy. Whilst the "guardianistas" blather about feeling sorry / worried / concerned for the nurses / teachers / elderly and or sick, the penny has obviously dropped that you do them no favours by spending money the country cannot afford, because when it runs out, which it always has done under Labour, they are in the mire.

There will be trouble with the EU. I think that the UK is totally "over" the EU, an institution born out of the Second World War, and now past its sell by date. Whatever deal the UK is offered by the EU, I am pretty certain that the voters will vote to leave. I think that they know this in the corridors of Brussels, and will not offer the UK any kind of "sellable" deal. My prediction is about 56% to leave the EU.

i suspect as well that this will precipitate a second Scottish Independence Referendum, but again I suspect our cousins north of the border will not vote to switch off the English Cash Machines.

Interesting times indeed, but overall, a good result, and the people have spoken.

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The Parliament of 2010 was the first fixed-term Parliament and with limited means of being dissolved early, the Lib Dems would have had real influence had a minority Tory Govt wanted their tenure to be meaningful. Instead they chose to straight-jacket themselves with Tory policies just to call themselves a 'party of Government'. You can't rewrite history to show the Lib Dems were a party of principle when it was a shameful disregard of their principles that they failed so miserably in 2015.

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