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Surprise visits of the DIBP to 189 visa holders with dependent spouses?

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Has anyone who immigrated to Australia with a 189 visa and a dependent spouse ever received a surprise visit of the DIBP to check whether the marriage (or de facto relationship) was not just a "convenience relationship"?

 

Does anybody know whether they really do this kind of thing?

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No...you prove your relationship is genuine and continuing when you lodge the application before granted, not after.

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There was one person on here once who was in Australia on a temp visa, and applying for PR. Their marriage had broken up and they were living at different addresses. Immigration turned up saying they didn't believe they were living as husband and wife and that both of their visas were likely to be cancelled. Unfortunately they never came back to tell us how it went.

For immigration to come check you would imagine someone must have reported them, but who knows. Maybe rental contracts in another name, or bills?


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We have seen a few surprise visits from IMMI for people going from an 820/309 (temporary) to an 801 (permanent) on another forum I frequent that's more focused on partner visas. Otherwise the visits have happened before any visa (temp or permanent) has been granted.

 

If you are granted an 189 you obtain that visa in your own right as far as I am aware, so even if you are no longer together soon after you arrive the visa cannot be taken away from you - unless IMMI are informed and given (or they find) evidence of you obtaining your visa fraudulently e.g by pretending to be in a relationship with someone just to get a visa

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I never understand why people worry about this enough to post asking about it. If you're a real couple, why WOULD you be worried about it? Immi isn't there to inspect the cleanliness of your house or how healthy the food in your fridge is - they're there to see if you're really living together as a couple, and if you're legit, you'd have nothing to worry about if they dropped by. My husband and I would welcome the chance to show them around, show them where we sleep, etc. as it would just be more great evidence to show them we're a real, married, very-much-in-love married couple. I always wonder (perhaps unfairly!) if people who post this question are worried because they're hiding something.

Edited by CollegeGirl

Applied for PMV 300: 18 April 2013 (Washington, D.C.) Police Checks: Front-loaded. Medicals: 3 June 2013 Meds Referred: ? Meds Cleared: 8/2013 PMV GRANTED: 03 JAN 2014! Married: March 2014. Applied for 820: 28 April 2014. 820 GRANTED: 07 July 2014!

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I never understand why people worry about this enough to post asking about it. If you're a real couple, why WOULD you be worried about it? Immi isn't there to inspect the cleanliness of your house or how healthy the food in your fridge is - they're there to see if you're really living together as a couple, and if you're legit, you'd have nothing to worry about if they dropped by. My husband and I would welcome the chance to show them around, show them where we sleep, etc. as it would just be more great evidence to show them we're a real, married, very-much-in-love married couple. I always wonder (perhaps unfairly!) if people who post this question are worried because they're hiding something.

I was worried because it is likely that my spouse and I will have to fly to Australia separately. If surprise visits were common, I would be worried to have the Immi knocking on my door while my spouse is overseas.

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Hi....

it happens that immigration do surprise check but on report cases. (I guess). Otherwise immigration visit to my workplace they just inform employer first. And than come to see whether it's all going according to provided plan or not.

 

thanks.

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I wonder how many 189 Visa holders there are called G Oliveira. If I were a DIBP inspector wondering who to visit, I think I know who I'd have at the top of my list right now.


Feb 2010 Prospective Marriage Visa | Nov 2010 Temporary Partner Visa | Nov 2012 Permanent Partner Visa | Jan 2015 Australian Citizenship

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I never understand why people worry about this enough to post asking about it. If you're a real couple, why WOULD you be worried about it? Immi isn't there to inspect the cleanliness of your house or how healthy the food in your fridge is - they're there to see if you're really living together as a couple, and if you're legit, you'd have nothing to worry about if they dropped by. My husband and I would welcome the chance to show them around, show them where we sleep, etc. as it would just be more great evidence to show them we're a real, married, very-much-in-love married couple. I always wonder (perhaps unfairly!) if people who post this question are worried because they're hiding something.

I don't know.

You don't want the immigration dept turing up and accusiing you of a false relationship and cancelling your visa.

The people that are hiding something generally know all the tricks already and don't need to ask these sorts of questions.

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I was worried because it is likely that my spouse and I will have to fly to Australia separately. If surprise visits were common, I would be worried to have the Immi knocking on my door while my spouse is overseas.

 

No need for immi to come knocking for this. If you apply for the 189, immi will have the passport details for each of you. At the push of a button or two it will tell them if one of you is onshore and the other offshore. They will have the movement records in and out of Australia of each of you. However, as others have said, the genuineness of the relationship checks are done before visa grant so unless there is reason after grant to suspect that the visas were obtained by fraud or materially incorrect information, one would not expect a visit from immi after grant.

Edited by Killara

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Registered Migration Agent (MARN 1382825)

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Hi....

it happens that immigration do surprise check but on report cases. (I guess). Otherwise immigration visit to my workplace they just inform employer first. And than come to see whether it's all going according to provided plan or not.

 

thanks.

They turn up to work places unannounced too.


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