Jacaranda 1,352 Posted March 11, 2015 So I was at work yesterday,and got talking to this guy from East Africa.He recognised my accent (aussie)and mentioned he had mates in Oz.(Sydney)He then started talking to me about possible ways he could emigrate to Australia.(He is married with a child)We went through the options,which from what he's told me,are pretty much zilch (no skills on either side).he then said (quote) "Well what if I get one of my aussie friends to pose as my partner,and I can do it that way"?After the shock (lol)I then told him to forget it as immi would obviously want proof,stat dec's and so on and he replied "Well I can get those,with some help from my friends?Unbelievable!I asked him about his wife and child and he said his his relationship was rocky and that he would be willing to leave them to get into Australia?Nice hey?Please someone tell me its not possible for him to lie his way in??? When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace ~ Jimi Hendrix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest51810 11,261 Posted March 11, 2015 I think they would probably see through it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindor 3,927 Posted March 11, 2015 So I was at work yesterday,and got talking to this guy from East Africa.He recognised my accent (aussie)and mentioned he had mates in Oz.(Sydney)He then started talking to me about possible ways he could emigrate to Australia.(He is married with a child)We went through the options,which from what he's told me,are pretty much zilch (no skills on either side).he then said (quote) "Well what if I get one of my aussie friends to pose as my partner,and I can do it that way"?After the shock (lol)I then told him to forget it as immi would obviously want proof,stat dec's and so on and he replied "Well I can get those,with some help from my friends?Unbelievable!I asked him about his wife and child and he said his his relationship was rocky and that he would be willing to leave them to get into Australia?Nice hey?Please someone tell me its not possible for him to lie his way in??? I hope not!! I drink, therefore I dance..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fifi69 3,433 Posted March 11, 2015 You must be able to lie your way in......that is my only conclusion from dealing with people who live here with the social skills of a plant pot :cool: honestly though, there must be many loopholes, cos I read this forum and get told one one thing re immi, but what's around me us another thing. Poms that on paper haven't a hope in hell of getting here....up n running, and living life to the max, visa sorted no probs. yes I don't know how either?? as for the ones that don't speak English:unsure: seems the same. I work in customer services here, honestly the amount of people that are here that can only friggin grunt is amazing :mad: They are such hard work. come to a English speaking country, then learn to speak English :no: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaranda 1,352 Posted March 11, 2015 What worries me is he was deadly serious?Ive got a good mind(lol)to get his last name,and mention him to Immi just in case?Feasible?I really dislike grassing people up,but maybe its justified in this case?What do you think? When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace ~ Jimi Hendrix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest51810 11,261 Posted March 11, 2015 I honestly don't think I could ever do the whole marry for a visa thing. I'd feel far too guilty and I would just spend the whole time worrying I'd get caught. It's just not my thing even though I might occasionally joke about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azh 10 Posted March 11, 2015 What worries me is he was deadly serious?Ive got a good mind(lol)to get his last name,and mention him to Immi just in case?Feasible?I really dislike grassing people up,but maybe its justified in this case?What do you think? Why snitch? Right or wrong, it's not like he will be hurting anyone. If he can beat the system then good for him. He probably won't tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaranda 1,352 Posted March 11, 2015 Why snitch?What about all those people who have to jump through hoops for a visa as in skilled?Not to mention the dishonesty of it all?Doesnt seem fair to me.Ah well maybe its best to turn a blind eye then? When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace ~ Jimi Hendrix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quoll 6,231 Posted March 11, 2015 I'd be inclined to snitch but, then, I dislike liars and cheats. For every cheating liar who takes up a spot there is an honest person who misses out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perthbum 5,725 Posted March 11, 2015 fair play to him. Drinking rum before 11am does not make you an alcoholic, it makes you pirate.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parley 7,908 Posted March 11, 2015 I think it happens a lot. A lot of filipino brides and the like. I think a lot of so called relationships break up when they are settled in Australia. If someone offers you $10K to help them come to your country, some would do it. Have you seen the movie Green Card ? Buy a man eat fish. The Day, Teach Man, to lifetime. - Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flag of convenience 3,987 Posted March 11, 2015 So I was at work yesterday,and got talking to this guy from East Africa.He recognised my accent (aussie)and mentioned he had mates in Oz.(Sydney)He then started talking to me about possible ways he could emigrate to Australia.(He is married with a child)We went through the options,which from what he's told me,are pretty much zilch (no skills on either side).he then said (quote) "Well what if I get one of my aussie friends to pose as my partner,and I can do it that way"?After the shock (lol)I then told him to forget it as immi would obviously want proof,stat dec's and so on and he replied "Well I can get those,with some help from my friends?Unbelievable!I asked him about his wife and child and he said his his relationship was rocky and that he would be willing to leave them to get into Australia?Nice hey?Please someone tell me its not possible for him to lie his way in??? I'm a bit surprised that you are surprised to be honest. Fraud marriages have long been part of the immigration process. I've known a few myself over the years who done it to remain in UK actually. One paid GBP 2,000 back in early 90's to do so. Where there is a will there is always a way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flag of convenience 3,987 Posted March 11, 2015 You must be able to lie your way in......that is my only conclusion from dealing with people who live here with the social skills of a plant pot :cool: honestly though, there must be many loopholes, cos I read this forum and get told one one thing re immi, but what's around me us another thing. Poms that on paper haven't a hope in hell of getting here....up n running, and living life to the max, visa sorted no probs. yes I don't know how either?? as for the ones that don't speak English:unsure: seems the same. I work in customer services here, honestly the amount of people that are here that can only friggin grunt is amazing :mad: They are such hard work. come to a English speaking country, then learn to speak English :no: A bit hard the last bit with coming to an English speaking country to speak English. Especially when English speakers are probably the worst in the world to learn another language. The grunters IMO are just as likely to be locals with limited social skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flag of convenience 3,987 Posted March 11, 2015 What worries me is he was deadly serious?Ive got a good mind(lol)to get his last name,and mention him to Immi just in case?Feasible?I really dislike grassing people up,but maybe its justified in this case?What do you think? I think go about your business and let others go about there's. More than likely just talking. But hardly rare if at least given it consideration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flag of convenience 3,987 Posted March 11, 2015 Why snitch?What about all those people who have to jump through hoops for a visa as in skilled?Not to mention the dishonesty of it all?Doesnt seem fair to me.Ah well maybe its best to turn a blind eye then? Un Australian to dob in, snitch or grass up. Or once at one time. Immigration is but a business anyway. Rich with 5 million to invest can buy their way into the country and offer nothing in skills but invest just as likely corrupt money. People have been entering on forged qualifications. The rorts that go on with international students and 457's. There's a lot to get hot under the collar about with Australia's immigration policy, or lack of policy in many places. From what you say he has only mentioned a possible way he could enter the country. Hardly new. Plenty of Back Packers talk in similar tones. If on the other hand you work in immigration detection........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3FatCats 6,875 Posted March 11, 2015 Is he called Jack? :laugh: And the end of all our exploring will be to arrive at where we started, and know the place for the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest51810 11,261 Posted March 11, 2015 I was thinking maybe he's a relation lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skani 5,407 Posted March 11, 2015 Please someone tell me its not possible for him to lie his way in??? It certainly happens but DIBP is very alert to these types of scams. I worked once with an Australian who was married to a Kenyan woman. He then went to Kenya and married her sister so that she could also enter Australia. He was eventually gaoled for bigamy and immigration fraud. This was in the 1980s before computer records and data matching made it much easier to detect this kind of fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booma 385 Posted March 11, 2015 A bit hard the last bit with coming to an English speaking country to speak English. Especially when English speakers are probably the worst in the world to learn another language. The grunters IMO are just as likely to be locals with limited social skills. people should learn the language of their adopted country. my parents learned to speak english better than most brits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke22 10 Posted March 11, 2015 largest group of migrants are now from china and india. learn to speak english ? why ? perhaps we might all learn the indigenous language. why should we not learn that ? after all its their land. oh yeah because a load of brits decided that. english will remain the primary language but some here seem offended about poorer people coming over and relating to each other in their own language. If your 1000 miles from home I would keep my language and speak english. this will be a republic one day and in another 100 years i hope britishness will be respected but a lot less dominant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booma 385 Posted March 11, 2015 largest group of migrants are now from china and india. learn to speak english ? why ? perhaps we might all learn the indigenous language. why should we not learn that ? after all its their land. oh yeah because a load of brits decided that. english will remain the primary language but some here seem offended about poorer people coming over and relating to each other in their own language. If your 1000 miles from home I would keep my language and speak english. this will be a republic one day and in another 100 years i hope britishness will be respected but a lot less dominant. i teach aboriginal studies & there are well over 100 languages still in use. do you think we should learn all of them or just some? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parley 7,908 Posted March 11, 2015 Bit of a silly point Luke as over 80% of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people speak only English at home. Buy a man eat fish. The Day, Teach Man, to lifetime. - Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flag of convenience 3,987 Posted March 12, 2015 people should learn the language of their adopted country. my parents learned to speak english better than most brits. My point being English speakers are worse in doing so. They expect/hope the world speaks English around them. Spain being a classic but far from only example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadianaussie 11 Posted March 12, 2015 I know 1 person who has done something similar. Arrived on a WHV and moved in with a friend who has PR, then after a year applied for defacto as a couple. Even though they weren't a couple. Defacto granted, and they actually continue to co-habitate as flatmates. Ethically its wrong. I really like both of them though so couldn't turn them in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
