simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 sad, they hate homosexuals, girls who chose to wear dresses, anyone who drinks alcohol, anyone that is "haram" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 Out of the 2.8 million I wonder how many deep down agree with this? I don't see anybody stopping it. I don't know how many would agree with that kind of nonsense,maybe 20%?i honestly haven't a clue,all i'm saying is that i'm certain the vast majority disagree with it,and so they should,but i DO focus on the decent majority,or i let the extremists win,i'd have let them mould my opinion,and i can't have them mugging me off like that,it's personal. "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 I don't know how many would agree with that kind of nonsense,maybe 20%?i honestly haven't a clue,all i'm saying is that i'm certain the vast majority disagree with it,and so they should,but i DO focus on the decent majority,or i let the extremists win,i'd have let them mould my opinion,and i can't have them mugging me off like that,it's personal. that's great that You are Certain. :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest105580 Posted March 1, 2015 I don't know how many would agree with that kind of nonsense,maybe 20%?i honestly haven't a clue,all i'm saying is that i'm certain the vast majority disagree with it,and so they should,but i DO focus on the decent majority,or i let the extremists win,i'd have let them mould my opinion,and i can't have them mugging me off like that,it's personal. We don't know and how could we.. it might be more it might be less but I think a lot of people don't want to take the chance I know I wouldn't. It's personal for me too but why is it for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 that's great that You are Certain.:rolleyes: I am yes,ta anyway though spoof "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 "spoof"? whats that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 We don't know and how could we.. it might be more it might be less but I think a lot of people don't want to take the chance I know I wouldn't.It's personal for me too but why is it for you? It's personal for you because you maybe fought against them,my personal isn't anywhere as dramatic tbh,my "personal",is purely because i don't just read the news and be led by "catch" words,i read the Daily Mirror and Independent online Quite often i will read a report in the Mirror having a pop at a businessman or politician over something or other A lot of the time these reports will mention mr ##### standing "outside of his £2 million house",that doesn't interest me at all,and a lot of times has no relevance at all,but it's not put there for nothing,little subtle mentions of "£2 million house",are designed to influence you,that to me means sidetracking,which means taking me for a mug,so i read what's relevant,not where the press want to take me,if that makes sense lol!!!!!!! "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 "spoof"? whats that? Google it "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 a game played with 3 coins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 Liar,where i'm from "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 Liar,where i'm from again... zzzzzz put up or shut up. zzzzzz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrutineer 503 Posted March 1, 2015 Leicester has a far larger Indian population of Sikhs and Hindus than Muslims. Or are you now turning your ire on all migrants? http://www.leicester.gov.uk/your-council-services/council-and-democracy/city-statistics/other-statistics/historical-interest/census2001/ethnicity/ I have never expressed dissatisfaction with any immigrants, only on Sharia and Islamofascism. And according to US diplomatic cables that were obtained via Wikileaks, Leicester is has the most conservative Islamic population in all of Europe and is on track to becoming the first non-white majority city in British history. Muslims are the second largest group there, not third as you suggest, and will soon become the second, then first. Correcting the Left's inaccuracy and smears was fun when I was younger - in fact I was paid to do it professionally once upon a time, but it tires me now. Defending liberal democracy against the far-right ideologies you support is losing its appeal to me with new page on this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrutineer 503 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) I don't need a history lesson on how the state works thanks,save that for any students who might value your opinion, i don't,your views are way too entrenched for me to give any credence to.So you mention foreign invasion,but it has nothing to do with immigrants invading us?!what was it in reference to then?because you mention it again above,reads the same way to me,no matter the smoke and mirrors I'm not being funny but do you actually read people's posts when you debate with them? I have spelled out in the most basic way I can what the reference to foreign invasion means, but a final time might do it, and then I must move on because I suspect you do understand and you're just trying to wind me up. The foreign invasion reference refers to foreign armies which are sent into other states during times of war for purposes of occupying that state. It has nothing to do with immigration. You say you don't need a history lesson, although in my long experience those on the Left hate history because it has a nasty way of highlighting the terrible damage done by their ideas, but presumably you understand that states invade one another and have done throughout history? I raised this concept as a rudimentary way of explaining how the state has expanded its remit in the 20th century. Edited March 1, 2015 by Scrutineer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrutineer 503 Posted March 1, 2015 Idiotic behaviour,by a few misguided Muslims,are we to judge the other 2.8 million Muslims on these halfwits? 30% of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia. That's nearly a million people who support a system totally incompatible with liberal values. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 I'm not being funny but do you actually read people's posts when you debate with them? I have spelled out in the most basic way I can what the reference to foreign invasion means, but a final time might do it, and then I must move on because I suspect you do understand and you're just trying to wind me up. The foreign invasion reference refers to foreign armies which are sent into other states during times of war for purposes of occupying that state. It has nothing to do with immigration. You say you don't need a history lesson, although in my long experience those on the Left hate history because it has a nasty way of highlighting the terrible damage done by their ideas, but presumably you understand that states invade one another and have done throughout history? I raised this concept as a rudimentary way of explaining how the state has expanded its remit in the 20th century. Yes i do,and number 2,we were talking about imigration,you mentioned foreign invasion in that context,so keep ducking and diving,still smoke and mirrors,you have a dislike of Muslims and left leaning people.that much is more than obvious,why deny the undeniable? "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 30% of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia. That's nearly a million people who support a system totally incompatible with liberal values. And what?what do you suggest we do?,what would Plato have done? "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 And what?what do you suggest we do?,what would Plato have done? debate the issue like grown ups Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulv 2,087 Posted March 1, 2015 30% of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia. That's nearly a million people who support a system totally incompatible with liberal values. I'd wager that many more of the natives would like to live under a totalitarian regime - much like the one you are advocating where difference is not to be trusted, and victimhood is the right of the ruling elites. But I can follow that narrative in any of the UK right wing papers. You are sounding more and more embittered with each post, as if you can't believe there are adults who don't hold your world view, and you again rail against the left, when for the last 30 years at least the Right have held sway across the west both politically and economically - yet you find the world not much to your liking. Time will tell if the sky is falling in - until then I'd say the jury is out but I'm confident that we'll be ok, regardless. "An inspirational leader...exceptionally enthusiastic, committed and motivated" OFSTED 2014. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrutineer 503 Posted March 1, 2015 Yes i do,and number 2,we were talking about imigration,you mentioned foreign invasion in that context,so keep ducking and diving,still smoke and mirrors,you have a dislike of Muslims and left leaning people.that much is more than obvious,why deny the undeniable? All right, I'm going to give up on the foreign invasion comment. Either you are hard-wired to see everything with reference to immigration, or you're winding me up, and neither way can we progress from that. As I had to explain to another socialist warrior on here, there is a difference between disliking Muslims and hating Islamofascism, please do not conflate the two with reference to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 debate the issue like grown ups Keep yer bugle out soft lad "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrutineer 503 Posted March 1, 2015 And what?what do you suggest we do?,what would Plato have done? If you want to discuss Plato, I'm happy to, but I have to work today so my posts will be sporadic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrutineer 503 Posted March 1, 2015 I'd wager that many more of the natives would like to live under a totalitarian regime If you can show me polling evidence that more than 30% of British natives want to live in a totalitarian regime (a real one, not Labour) then we can take the rest of your point as well. I'm not sure you'd win that wager though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 Keep yer bugle out soft lad ohhhh !! you are butch!!:laugh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pablo 14,048 Posted March 1, 2015 All right, I'm going to give up on the foreign invasion comment. Either you are hard-wired to see everything with reference to immigration, or you're winding me up, and neither way can we progress from that. As I had to explain to another socialist warrior on here, there is a difference between disliking Muslims and hating Islamofascism, please do not conflate the two with reference to me. Yes,best you give up on wriggling your way out of the foreign invasion sensationalism,just digging the hole deeper every time,no matter. I don't distinguish between the two,you're exactly as you come across,just own up to it,don't hide it,you'd be due a bit of respect for being honest at least "The problem with neo conservative capitalism and it's insatiable greed for more wealth and disparity amongst the populace,is that it ended up being the catalyst for the great depression and modern recession" Me,tonight:wubclub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,953 Posted March 1, 2015 Yes,best you give up on wriggling your way out of the foreign invasion sensationalism,just digging the hole deeper every time,no matter.I don't distinguish between the two,you're exactly as you come across,just own up to it,don't hide it,you'd be due a bit of respect for being honest at least you're out of your depth son,, do us a favour and move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
