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damojena

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Hi all,

 

Im currently on a 457 visa that expires on july 2015. I have recently met a girl from France who is over here on a WHV, and she has fallen pregnant. We will not have been together for 12 months by the time she is due at the end of August. In july, I am eligible to apply for permanent residence, or alternatively, my employer will renew my 457 visa. I'm just wondering if I will be able to get my girlfriend, and unborn child on a de-facto visa, in order to stay living and working in this amazing country?

 

Thanks in advance for your time.

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She still has the ability to do her stint in rural places to qualify for a second WHV of her own before August.

 

That will give you the time to live together for 12 months to satisfy the defacto clauses.

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After the baby is born, she would have a chance of being considered eligible to be included as a de facto partner, but without a child of the relationship (not simply a pregnancy), she will need to meet the One-Year Relationship requirement or be in a registered relationship with you (or of course, married to you). Registered relationships are only possible in QLD, NSW, ACT, VIC and TAS.

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It's only 6 months cohabiting for the 457. I'd be going for that visa until you have your one year and then apply for pr.


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In a situation like this, you and your girlfriend should really consult with a registered migration agent to decide on the best visa option. It is really good to see that you are seeking advice early on; your options are increased with this - with still 7 months to go before you would apply for a visa, and 8 before the baby is due. This has increased your prospects for a positive outcome, but you should consult with a registered migration agent now, not only to decide on the best visa strategy, but also to ensure that you are doing everything that you need to be doing between now and the visa application. The 457 requires only 6 months defacto, so you have enough time to ensure that you would meet that to include your girlfriend as a defacto if you were to apply for a new 457 in July. However, if you intend to stay in Australia in the longer term, then you should be looking for the permanent residency option. As you will not meet the 12 month defacto relationship, this will require more careful preparation. There may also be other visa options open to both you and your girlfriend, so to decide on the best visa strategy for you and your girlfriend, consult a registered migration agent. You have taken the very prudent step of seeking advice early, so, so far you are doing everything right! Best wishes.. and also congratulations! :)

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IMO there are a heap of issues to consider. Medical costs might not be covered. If the child is born and you are a permanent resident, you would be able to stop your child being taken to France in the event that the relationship with your girlfriend broke down. That's before you look at visa options...


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True. I'm not sure if France has a resipricol (sp) health arrangement with Australia. And health insurance often doesn't cover pregnancy unless you have had it for a year before having the baby.

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True. I'm not sure if France has a resipricol (sp) health arrangement with Australia.

France doesn't. I would be brushing up my French rather than looking to apply for PR in Australia in this situation.


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Yeah, after being on pregnancy forums leading into my little one arriving two months ago I agree. People who had private insurance were still paying $3-6k ON TOP of their insurance, so without being covered at all it would be cripplingly expensive here.


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Hey,

 

Many thanks for that info. I guess that she can come on my de-facto on my 457 visa, and renew my 457 with work, and then apply for Permanent Residence shortly after that, once the baby is born.

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Medical costs are going to be around $7000 - $9000, and we have that covered. you are right, but I guess its better to chance the risk of that happening than aborting life, something of which neither of us want to do. We haven't been together that long, but we are both level headed individuals who have hammered this out, and we do have a plan in place

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I don't have any words of wisdom but I just wanted to wish you all the very best. Relationships start in all sorts of ways and strong ones can form from the shakiest of starts. Good luck to all 3 of you.:wubclub:

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Hey,

 

Many thanks for that info. I guess that she can come on my de-facto on my 457 visa, and renew my 457 with work, and then apply for Permanent Residence shortly after that, once the baby is born.

Do you not live in a state with a relationship register? If you do, and if neither of you is already married, registering your relationship would allow you to apply for the permanent visa with her included as a secondary applicant and she would then be eligible for Medicare which will cover virtually all costs relating to the pregnancy and birth if treated as a public patient.

 

I agree with Killara that you should be consulting a good RMA - the right advice at this early stage of the pregnancy could save you a heap of money and many future hassles.

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Yeah, after being on pregnancy forums leading into my little one arriving two months ago I agree. People who had private insurance were still paying $3-6k ON TOP of their insurance, so without being covered at all it would be cripplingly expensive here.

 

One of my clients who had been paying the top rate for health insurance copped an extra $10k.

 

Another client who gave birth a couple of months early and relied on Medicare was taken by ambulance from Sydney to Newcastle for the newborn to be placed in intensive care for a couple of months. The cost was nil.

 

If you are really sick, you will finish up in a public hospital, even if your specialist is not on a skiing holiday in Austria.


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One of my clients who had been paying the top rate for health insurance copped an extra $10k.

 

Another client who gave birth a couple of months early and relied on Medicare was taken by ambulance from Sydney to Newcastle for the newborn to be placed in intensive care for a couple of months. The cost was nil.

 

If you are really sick, you will finish up in a public hospital, even if your specialist is not on a skiing holiday in Austria.

 

Yep for sure. I went public and the care was amazing, and didn't cost me a penny. I even had a private room for myself and my partner to stay in for a couple of nights.


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As you are on a 457 now you also have to have private health insurance if not covered on a reciprocal arrangement. If this is the case you should looking into adding your girlfriend and pregnancy services just in case. If you are on a reciprocal arrangement check to see what it will cover in your situation (likely covered in public hospital).

 

Hey,

 

Many thanks for that info. I guess that she can come on my de-facto on my 457 visa, and renew my 457 with work, and then apply for Permanent Residence shortly after that, once the baby is born.

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Typically when you add pregnancy cover it comes with a 12-month waiting period to avoid having already pregnant women take up the coverage.

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Just a thought: if the couple get married and then the OP lodges an application for a 186 in July, won't the pair of them have access to Medicare whilst their application is processed?


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True. But sometimes they wave it or when they want new customers reduce it?

 

Typically when you add pregnancy cover it comes with a 12-month waiting period to avoid having already pregnant women take up the coverage.

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Would she not want to go back to France to be with her family where she will have a support network? Then look at her coming back out on your visa?no idea how it works in reality. .You wouldn't have to worry about visa fees etc then and you could use that money to go and see her/visa costs? Good luck !


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Would she not want to go back to France to be with her family where she will have a support network?

I suspect, having read this thread, that the OP's life has taken an unexpected direction and he is trying his best to do the right thing when none of the options look ideal. I think he is doing the right thing by trying to understand fully what each of the options entails so that he and his partner are able to have as much time as possible to make up their minds - and perhaps change their minds. I wish them well.


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True. But sometimes they wave it or when they want new customers reduce it?

I've never known them do that for pregnancy, for extras like minor dental, opticians etc it is often the norm. Mind you I haven't looked for pregnancy.


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I've never known them do that for pregnancy, for extras like minor dental, opticians etc it is often the norm. Mind you I haven't looked for pregnancy.

Agreed, after a long time on pregnancy forums I've not seen anyone mention that happening, just the huge fees they have to pay even when covered.


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