blossom Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I'm sorry, but your chances ARE bleak. And that is assuming nothing changes. My chances where great when I came in a student visa and just as I was literally half a week from being able to apply they changed the rules and they became bleak. It took me another three years to get pr after that. Luckily there were other visas I could get to give me time. You won't even have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 It has crossed my mine that the people you are currently working for are fobbing you off a bit to be honest... placing all the onus on you to find detaails of a visa that either doesn't exist, or you are not eligible for one that does.... the reason I say this is because University's are very used to dealing with/applying for visas. I've worked at five now, including two here in Australia. They employ people all the time on 457's before often sponsoring for 186 PR. I went through the process myself, the HR dept had no need for an agent, they knew EXACTLY what they were doing, and what I needed to do.... they knew the rules, and I suspect the Uni you are working for do too... It doesn't matter if you have a job if they job doesn't qualify for sponsorship.... and an admin job rarely fills the criteria. The kinds of University jobs that do are research or lecturing - and usually require PhD as the qualification in the area relevant to employment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Lol this thread has gone a bit too far left now. Appreciate the advice and will see what happens Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) You are employed in an admin role (without any major qualifications), it is not a need area and lots of people can fill it. If the university wants you and can prove to the contrary, then maybe they will get you the visa. If you have already worked there more than six months then you have broken the WHV conditions, so hopefully that is not the case, as this will reflect badly on any future visa applications. Edited May 1, 2014 by Sammy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well this is the point, the position I have been offered is actually within the new English esl department that is opening next semester. I don't hv a degree but I have exactly the right qualification and above the five years experience needed. If I hv to leave its no biggie, I like it here but the world is a big place and there are many opportunities out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Which Uni is it? Are you going to be a lecturer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well this is the point, the position I have been offered is actually within the new English esl department that is opening next semester. I don't hv a degree but I have exactly the right qualification and above the five years experience needed. If I hv to leave its no biggie, I like it here but the world is a big place and there are many opportunities out there In that case, they should be researching the type of visa they wish to employ you on, instead of leaving you to post questions on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 In that case, they should be researching the type of visa they wish to employ you on, instead of leaving you to post questions on here. Yep, agreed - I think that's what I was sort of getting at on one of my other posts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ah man I just wrote a huge post explaining why it is being done like this but tbh that really is missing the point It will happen, just first need to make sure it legally can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ah man I just wrote a huge post explaining why it is being done like this but tbh that really is missing the point It will happen, just first need to make sure it legally can Ok, you have been given a lot of help on this thread and you haven't exactly been polite. Now it is up to you to either contact a migration agent or actually have the university do the footwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Yes, we have all been telling you to contact a good agent from way back. If you stand any chance at all, that is your next move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thx blossom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scattley Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Well this is the point, the position I have been offered is actually within the new English esl department that is opening next semester. I don't hv a degree but I have exactly the right qualification and above the five years experience needed. If I hv to leave its no biggie, I like it here but the world is a big place and there are many opportunities out there Unis can't sponsor for any position under a HEO8 which is deputy head level (admin) or senior lecturer level (requires experience supervising PhD students). Without a degree....no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Unis can't sponsor for any position under a HEO8 which is deputy head level (admin) or senior lecturer level (requires experience supervising PhD students). Without a degree....no chance I was offered two sponsorship deals from unis at levels below that. It must depend on the uni. Also don't have a degree, just diploma but experience not found in oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Unis can't sponsor for any position under a HEO8 which is deputy head level (admin) or senior lecturer level (requires experience supervising PhD students). Without a degree....no chance Not quite accurate... if you have a PhD, and are being employed as a lecturer or research fellow, it is entirely possible to be sponsored. You do not need to be a senior lecturer/research fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Not quite accurate... if you have a PhD, and are being employed as a lecturer or research fellow, it is entirely possible to be sponsored. You do not need to be a senior lecturer/research fellow. I wasn't even that high, just very much in demand. I did have another uni where the unit manager wanted to sponsor me but hr said no, so maybe they had those types of rules. Sydney uni and Adelaide uni certainly don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scattley Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Not quite accurate... if you have a PhD, and are being employed as a lecturer or research fellow, it is entirely possible to be sponsored. You do not need to be a senior lecturer/research fellow. The point is without any degree (which is what the poster indicated) a uni cannot sponsor you. You do not qualify for a job as a lecturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scattley Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I wasn't even that high, just very much in demand. I did have another uni where the unit manager wanted to sponsor me but hr said no, so maybe they had those types of rules. Sydney uni and Adelaide uni certainly don't. Unit managers want the path of least resistance...we have someone can we keep them...universities HR know the big picture..they would get he flack from the papers if someone in a low level job was sponsored where there was a high level of unemployed graduates left begging, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Some jobs can't be done by someone with a degree. As I said I don't have one and had two unis which the hr department happily agreed to my being sponsored. They were the ones sending the job offer letters out including details of sponsorship. Although it doesn't apply to the op, my point is that it all depends on the role and in my experience your statement is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Update guys From what I know now my circumstances do permit for sponsorship. I took yr advice and approached HR about this who found this out and formally offered it to me. However, due to perhaps time pondering and perhaps staying in Oz for the wrong reason Ive decided to keep going on my travels. I love Oz but perhaps now is just not the right time. I really appreciate some of you for trying to help, but seeking professional advice is advisable to anyone reading this post. Good luck guys and thx again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 TomasMykal, for the sake of educating us all and all the readers who may come across this thread in the future, would you care to share how you could possibly have been offered sponsorship? What visa and job title were you able to achieve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 If anyone would like anymore info on this then they can pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Is there a reason you don't want to share publically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Unfortunately many people move on and then don't answer pm's. I'm sorry, but as I think you know from your response you had the sense to delete, no matter what your hr department said, they wouldn't have been able to sponsor you even if they wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomasMykal Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 I think it has alot to do with the post you wrote on this thread. I found it incredibly unhelpful whilst at the same time intentionally deflating. Your advice was categorically incorrect, which means that your biting, rather blunt and as I have established untrue post makes you look like a bit of a plonker. The reason I do not want to share with you is simply have nothing more to say to you and Im finished posting on this. Anyone else feel free to PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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