Tickled Pink Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Primary teaching is an incredibly saturated market here. There are so many Australians who can't get jobs. Two Universities in QLD have had a downturn in numbers enrolling for teacher training purely based on the job market being so bad people are steering away from it. There is not a great need for primary teachers here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hello, I am currently training to be a teacher in the UK and will gain my QTS in August of this year. Would people advice that I complete my NQT year here as well first? Also what is the set up over there teaching wise, do you have to register with a state? Are there much need for primary teachers, I have a lot of experience before training with ESBD children to add to the equation as well. Thanks I would advise you to definitely do your NQT year in the UK ( there are thousands of unemployed primary teachers in Australia). Yes, you need to register with individual states and the minimum requirement is four years of university study (at least one year must be an initial teaching qualification). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Smith Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hi all, who did you get to verify all of your documents for AITSL? A migration agent told me it must be a solicitor but the £200 cost seems a bit excessive? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Minton Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Hi all, who did you get to verify all of your documents for AITSL? A migration agent told me it must be a solicitor but the £200 cost seems a bit excessive? Thanks It does have to be a solicitor. The going rate tree is £5 for the first doc and then £2 for each subsequent one. So unless you have a lot of documents I think £200 is way too much. Maybe try another firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Smith Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 It does have to be a solicitor. The going rate tree is £5 for the first doc and then £2 for each subsequent one. So unless you have a lot of documents I think £200 is way too much. Maybe try another firm. Thank you!! Yes think I will have a look elsewhere and shop around for the solicitor. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca10 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Selina, You don't need to use a solicitor. I asked a friend who is a doctor to certify my documents for my AITSL accreditation application and it was passed no problems. There is a list of occupations that are acceptable which includes many different professions. Even your HT can certify them for you and if he/she does it then it won't cost a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Macca is right ... There are different requirements for the different organisations you may apply for. Some require documents notarised, some signed by someone in the legal profession - but the good news is that I think AITSL accept documents certified by a wide range of people. This comes from the AITSL Secondary School Teacher Application form. Your school HT should be able to sign them off for you. Saves you £200 I think!Certified documents Certified copies of all original documents are required for the assessment process. Only documents certified by one of the following authorised persons will be accepted for this assessment: [TABLE=class: MsoNormalTable] [TR] [TD=width: 373, bgcolor: transparent] · Certified Practising Accountant · Chartered Accountant · Commissioner for Oaths · Justice of the Peace · Notary Public · Magistrate [/TD] [TD=width: 317, bgcolor: transparent] · Judge · Registered medical practitioner (Medical doctor) · School principal · Solicitor · Australian Embassy/High Commission staff [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yes mine were signed by a Justice of the Peace, someone I knew and therefore free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Smith Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Thanks everyone, I did ask the agent about the list of people authorised to do it as I had also seen it on AITSL but he said that they needed to be from Australia and as we were in the UK only a solicitor could do it. If you have all followed this list on AITSL though I will too. Thank you for the replies x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabri Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hi guys, I sent off my qualifications to Bostes today! Very excited hopefully I get an outcome soon and there are no problems. I might have to seat the Peat test which is quite a pain and expensive. Has anyone on here done it? It is only usually needed if your main studies were done in a non English speaking country. My degree is from Italy, however my Pgce is from the Uk so I'm hoping they'll let me off (even though I doubt it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Don't fancy your chances but good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosebud13 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hi all, At the moment I'm a primary teacher with MFL specialism. I have a degree in French but am interested in formally learning another language. I know some Italian and Spanish, but something completely different like Chinese would also be good. What would be most beneficial in Australia? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabri Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hi. Here they are very specific about the qualifications....For example my Pgce from the UK is in French and Spanish, however I have been accredited just for Italian and Spanish. (As I have Italian Ba honours with lots of Spanish exams). I have sometimes seen ads with "willingness to teach" so I suppose that's like a second subject. I suppose Chinese, Japanese or Indonesian. Have a look where you want to live to decide which one to choose. Alternative is to just offer Italian/Spanish. I can see sometimes some jobs for French/Italian not many for Spanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraLinder Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I can see a running theme here about primary school teachers. Is it the same for early years or special needs? I have a 3 years BA(Hons) degree in primary education so would need to do a top up, but if there are lots of primary teachers, not many jobs, would I be better trying to top my degree up with an early years or special needs qualification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Special needs could be a good idea if you were looking to go into this area. Don't Early years teachers get paid less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraLinder Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Special needs could be a good idea if you were looking to go into this area. Don't Early years teachers get paid less? Do you know what qualifications or training is required to teach SEND in Australia? In the UK a primary degree and some experience is often accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Do you know what qualifications or training is required to teach SEND in Australia? In the UK a primary degree and some experience is often accepted. It depends on the state in which you teach, but normally specific qualifications are needed to work in special needs. As you need to do one more year to qualify then you could undertake a special needs qualification if it is an area you have a passion in. Edited March 29, 2015 by Sammy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Special needs could be a good idea if you were looking to go into this area. Don't Early years teachers get paid less? Early years teachers do not get paid less if they work in a school, however day care centres notoriously pay their early childhood teachers a lot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraLinder Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It depends on the state in which you teach, but normally specific qualifications are needed to work in special needs. As you need to do one more year to qualify then you could undertake a special needs qualification if it is an area you ahve a passion in. That was my train of thought. I have always had a high percentage of SEND pupils in my classes and find it so rewarding, it could be the step forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Smith Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hi, this is thread has been so helpful, hoping that teachers who have been through skills assessment and registration can answer a quick question.... I am going to a solicitors tomorrow to get my documents certified for AITSL. I'm being charged a flat fee for all of my documents so wondered how many copies of my evidence I should get certified? I'll need one set for AITSL, then I assume the teaching board of whatever state I'm going to (looking like WA) will need copies, then as I want to register as an early years teacher I'll need copies for ACECQA?? Hoping to to get them all done in one big go Thank you, Selina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salloo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hey Guys, Need a little assistance in my case. i am a graduate in Design (B.de.) It's a 4 years degree. I am teaching Mediat Stues and ICT (Information communication and technology) to classes 9-12. I am planning to start my 1 year PGCE from a local university here in Pakistan. I just want to know if a 1 year ONLINE course would be okay from a recognized university. Or is it anyway lesser than the on campus course. AITSL gave me the following reply: If the online PGCE meets the academic and practical requirements detailed in the AITLS assessment criterion ithe qualification will be considered. AITSL does not provide a pre-assessment service/ advice on qualifications/courses of study that will lead to a positive assessment outcome. AITSL compares an applicant's qualifications against the assessment criteria in place at the time they apply. Without a complete application including a full set of evidence AITSL is not able to provide an opinion. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 An on-campus qualification would be advisable. I haven't heard of anybody getting a successful outcome with an online course. I'm not sure how you'll cover the 45 days teaching placement. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlthecamper Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hey, I have read so many acronyms that I've become cross-eyed and wondered whether someone in the know could clarify what I need to do/ who I must register with in order to teach in a Queensland Primary School please? I have already been approved with a 189 Permanent Residency visa via my husband's profession so do I need to register with AITSL if I do not need the skills assessment for a visa application? Would it only be QLD College of teachers I would need to register with as I already have a visa? Once registered, would I need to register / become a member elsewhere or could I literally begin applying for jobs as soon as I arrive? Any advice would be great and would help stop my head from spinning! :0/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salloo Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 An on-campus qualification would be advisable. I haven't heard of anybody getting a successful outcome with an online course. I'm not sure how you'll cover the 45 days teaching placement. Good luck! This is the issue. There are no institutes here providing supervised training in the school. How can that be covered or maybe an alternative. I have a 5 years teaching experience though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Hey, I have read so many acronyms that I've become cross-eyed and wondered whether someone in the know could clarify what I need to do/ who I must register with in order to teach in a Queensland Primary School please? I have already been approved with a 189 Permanent Residency visa via my husband's profession so do I need to register with AITSL if I do not need the skills assessment for a visa application? Would it only be QLD College of teachers I would need to register with as I already have a visa? Once registered, would I need to register / become a member elsewhere or could I literally begin applying for jobs as soon as I arrive? Any advice would be great and would help stop my head from spinning! :0/ AITSL is used to obtain a visa/migration purposes. If you have a visa you can apply directly to the correct body for registration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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