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Anyone had problems immigrating with Aspergers?

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Hi guys,

 

Ive been looking to emigrate to Aus for about 3 years no. I was shocked to find that a young woman had been barred from entering Aus (actually her whole family was) because she was Asperger's - she held done 2 jobs and was independent. Do you think this is fair?

 

I have Asperger's (actually Im 99.99% sure) so I can really empathise with this woman's dilemma (yes Asperger people do have empathy, its a myth that they all don't). I am glad I don't have an official Asperger label as this would kill my chances.

 

Im effectively unskilled but have some social/care work experience, I've taught English abroad (don't laugh) and have a city and guilds in bricklaying. I know much about Aus culture people have thought I was from over there (thank you Radio National for your podcasts). I'm hoping to get a 457 visa around 2017 (I live in hope)

 

If there is anyone on the board in a similar position please let me know, maybe we could help each other (or if your a parent to someone with "high functioning" Asperger's).

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Given the qualifications you have listed you are unlikely to get a 457 visa, that is more of the barrier than aspergers. Incidently, if you dont have a clinical diagnosis how do you think immigration will know about it??!

 

Anyway, if you are not intending to try for a visa until 2017 I suggest you look into training for something that might increase your chances of qualifying for a visa. A 457 is only a temporary work permit, it does not lead to permanent residency, so it is not classed as emigration since you would have to leave the country at some point.

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You really are jumping the gun a bit looking to come on a 457 in 2017. You should be aware immigration laws are in constant change.

 

As the above poster suggests it may be better to train for something that may provide a better chance to immigrate on. I wouldn't disclose the other issue unless you feel you must. Would the medical disclose that?

 

Look to come out on a PR visa rather than being messed about on a 457. Good luck whatever you decide.

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My advice is smile, learn at least three non-offensive jokes, try and be chatty and shake peoples hands with a firm grip, just like your granddad did.

The most important thing is to look people in their eyes, especially when you want something from them, like a doctor, policeman, barman or your wife.

Make sure you have a shower and a shave as well when you have a interview or everyday if you have a wife/or want to get one.

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Hi guys,

 

Ive been looking to emigrate to Aus for about 3 years no. I was shocked to find that a young woman had been barred from entering Aus (actually her whole family was) because she was Asperger's - she held done 2 jobs and was independent. Do you think this is fair?

 

I have Asperger's (actually Im 99.99% sure) so I can really empathise with this woman's dilemma (yes Asperger people do have empathy, its a myth that they all don't). I am glad I don't have an official Asperger label as this would kill my chances.

 

Im effectively unskilled but have some social/care work experience, I've taught English abroad (don't laugh) and have a city and guilds in bricklaying. I know much about Aus culture people have thought I was from over there (thank you Radio National for your podcasts). I'm hoping to get a 457 visa around 2017 (I live in hope)

 

If there is anyone on the board in a similar position please let me know, maybe we could help each other (or if your a parent to someone with "high functioning" Asperger's).

 

I have seen some with Asperers get visas. But as you are not actually diagnosed with it, then I am struggling to understand the issue.

 

As others have mentioned, you mention emigrating but then talk about the 457 visa. Aiming for a 457 visa by 2017 is a very soft aim for someone wanting to migrate, aim a bit higher.

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I was wondering how you even know you have got Aspergers? You must be very mild if you have or it would have been picked up long ago. By 2017 457 visas may well be defunct. There is quite a strong push against them at the moment and in the ( admittedly unlikely) event that the Labour party gets in they will no doubt be tightened up a lot more. There is a call for workers in the personal care field but you do have to have training , you can't just go straight into it so I would say to you get some quals first before you even think of trying to emigrate.

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I don't see any issue unless you have a clinical diagnosis. My son has aspergers but is diagnosed. There was no problem. I just had to compile a comprehensive set of information for him prior to the medical, such as:

school reports, educational and clinical psychologist reports etc.

 

As others have said, ideally you want to acquire some formal qualifications and aim to come as a permanent resident. Some people have a four or five year plan towards emigrating. It took me 4 years of planning and application to arrive at visa grant

 

good luck

 

Millie


Visa: 475 regional GRANT 22/6/12, touchdown 4/11/12 . Applied 189 PR visa 13/11/14 Grant 20/1/15

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Thanks for all your replies folks - looks like I will aim for PR rather than short term 457. I was thinking getting a years experience in Aus which I think skill gives you points if you want to go on for full migration later. But it makes sense to try and migrate in one go rather than 1-2 years in Aus then possibly have to return to the UK.

 

I should clear something up - I will soon be starting a job in care work - I should have an NVQ level 3 in about 2-3 years. Because Im already a graduate and my health forced me into a new career at 27, I cant go back to uni or do full time learning. NVQ level 3 in social care - or diploma level 3, I think its called now, should be enough.

 

If I cant get into Aus I can do a Bunac WH in NZ and hang around for up to 2 years while I work on getting into Aus.

 

 

I know it looks like Im planning ahead too far but you have to have long term strategic goals - Im at an age where I have to do what I really want before I get too old to emigrate. Now I know immigration rules are constantly changing but I have an 8 year plan to get to Aus. That time frame should be achievable.

I know Labour and the Liberals are tightening up on immigration but we all know these things tend to move in cycles. 5+ years down the line things may change.

 

Some of you are right - Asperger's for me isn't really an issue. I worry too much about it. There is no official diagnosis on my record and that's fine by me.

 

pob - What you're saying is patronising and you have a stereotypical wrong idea about me. I don't have problems with socialising. I wrote clearly in my post I had experience in care work and teaching which demands communication skills. I certainly don't need to be advised in showering everyday when I'm asking if anyone else has experience of Aspergers and migrating!! Asperger's was only a problem in that I did the wrong thing at uni (history and accounts). The legacy is a problem now.

 

Please don't treat Asperger people as if they have a learning difficulty - unless they say they do - It comes across as patronising and offensive. Over years of research Ive realised alone I have mild Asperger's - I was laughed at by a doctor when I asked for it to be looked at so I gave up. we all know doctors and professionals make mistakes.

 

Thanks for all your replies guys.

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Will that position get you a visa to OZ or NZ? We are an ageing population so who knows. I believe a lot of these sort of positions are going to Philippine folk. Anyway time will tell what the immigration situation will look over several years.

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Ill aim to be nominating myself as a care worker. I assume that care workers will be needed. Yes I know its not on the SOL but that thing changes all the time!

I'm pretty sure now you can get a skilled visa if you are a care manager. That requires NVQ 4 or equivalent but I think that's too ambitious. As you say with the aging population there's a good chance care worker will appear on the SOL at some point.

 

The recent changes in 2011 I think it was gave more points to people in their late 20s/early 30s than those in their early 20s so that's a plus for me. Plus better English skills are demanded things are in my favour there as that weeds out some of the Asian migrants.

 

Now I enjoy care work regardless of whether Ill get to Aus, NZ or not, and as Im not spending any real money on full time training, its not like Im betting the farm with this plan to migrate.

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Why do you think any Asian migrants need 'weeding out'?? the immigration process is not there to favour any nationality over another, and certainly doesn't look for ways to weed anybody out. If an Asian applicant is more qualified, with greater skills in demand than you, then they are likely to score more points, therefore be higher on the invite list.

 

It actually bugs me quit abit when people think that coming from the UK makes them more attractive as a migrant than other nationalities.

 

Care workers are needed in every country, but as a rule it is not generally considered a skill that cannot be fulfilled by an Australian or PR with training. Therefore, I wouldn't bank on it ever being on th SOL.

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Whoa, Tickled Pink - Im referring to language skills. Im not suggesting Asians need weeding out. I would say that if an Asian were as highly qualified as a native English speaker - but if his/her English wasn't as good. He or she would find it harder to get in.

 

Yes I know highly educated Asians will mostly speak good English but there has been a lot of reports on the ABC about poor language skills - that maybe more in agriculture.

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Ill aim to be nominating myself as a care worker. I assume that care workers will be needed. Yes I know its not on the SOL but that thing changes all the time!

I'm pretty sure now you can get a skilled visa if you are a care manager. That requires NVQ 4 or equivalent but I think that's too ambitious. As you say with the aging population there's a good chance care worker will appear on the SOL at some point.

 

The recent changes in 2011 I think it was gave more points to people in their late 20s/early 30s than those in their early 20s so that's a plus for me. Plus better English skills are demanded things are in my favour there as that weeds out some of the Asian migrants.

 

Now I enjoy care work regardless of whether Ill get to Aus, NZ or not, and as Im not spending any real money on full time training, its not like Im betting the farm with this plan to migrate.

 

big assumption to make. SOL changes all the time with occupations being removed rather than added. Example this year 5 occupations were removed - none were added.

 

Currently childcare manager is on SOL and requires a degree and 3 years post qualification work experience to get a positive skills assessment.

 

Personally I can not see care worker going on list- this occupation would likely not even meet the minimum salary threshold for a 457 visa.

 

And you only get more points for English ability if you meet the IELTS requirements, just because someone's first language is English doesn't mean they will get the scores required. Many people have sat the test more than 5 times trying to get 8's in all sections.

 

I wouldn't bet on your plan working either as it can't currently work with migration regulations tighting every year, less chance of working in future.

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