BaileyCat Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hi Guys, I am currently a third year student midwife, I will qualify in September this year :biggrin: I am wanting to move to preferably NSW area and begin work as a newly qualified midwife. I am completely lost as to where to start. There seems to be a lot of conflicting advice about what to do and how to do it. Was wondering if others have/had this experience and could perhaps shed a bit of light on the situation. I have researched that i could potentially undertake a Graduate Midwifery Programme (which a I understand is similar to our preceptorship) Whilst a few hospitals do not even require this. I have been trying to look for jobs or even just contact numbers for further info from employers but this is proving difficult and I am unsure as to whether an agency would be useful or not. Am I right in thinking that I will have to wait for my UK pin from the NMC before I can apply for registration from AHPRA?? And why is the IELTS exam necessary?? Sorry for the 20 questions. Any help would be massively appreciated. Thanks Bailey xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkm10 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Hi bailey, i am a childrens nurse, been qualified 18months now. I was in same position as you desperate to move to oz. when i first qualified i applied for all the children's hospitals in oz for there graduate programs, even though i got a first in my degree, no one was interested in me as i didnt have experience. They give priority to aus and nz students. I cant say that it is defo the same with midwifery but i got 1 year experience and then applied for a job and got offered it. If you are happy to work in the rural community you may stand a better chance of getting on the program, the one hospital that was intersted in me for the grad program was this little tiny town with a few hundred people and a tiny childrens ward. So i stayed in uk got 1yr experience(even if you do bank that counts) and got a job easy. You will need nmc pin before applying to aphra. If you were born and educated in uk and go on working holiday or 457 visa you wont need to take ielts test, as long as you have completed at least 5yrs full time education, so say 2yrs @ college/alevels and 3yrs @ uni. If your not originally from uk or have not completed exams etc then you may need to take ielts test. Hope that helps, if you need any further info you can message me, good luck xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinaisrar Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Hi Guys, I am currently a third year student midwife, I will qualify in September this year :biggrin: I am wanting to move to preferably NSW area and begin work as a newly qualified midwife. I am completely lost as to where to start. There seems to be a lot of conflicting advice about what to do and how to do it. Was wondering if others have/had this experience and could perhaps shed a bit of light on the situation. I have researched that i could potentially undertake a Graduate Midwifery Programme (which a I understand is similar to our preceptorship) Whilst a few hospitals do not even require this. I have been trying to look for jobs or even just contact numbers for further info from employers but this is proving difficult and I am unsure as to whether an agency would be useful or not. Am I right in thinking that I will have to wait for my UK pin from the NMC before I can apply for registration from AHPRA?? And why is the IELTS exam necessary?? Sorry for the 20 questions. Any help would be massively appreciated. Thanks Bailey xx Hi Bailey, im also in the process of moving over to Oz qualified as a nurse in sept 12 so im presuming the process is the same or certainly not much different! Firstly Ielts is needed by both ANMAC and APHRA as well as for the purpose of your visa. You normally require a minimum of 60 points to lodge an EOI for a visa. there are 2 types of ielts academic and general, academic is required at min of band 7's in all 4 subject areas. If you achieve 7's this gives you 10 points achieve 8's in all 4 subjects it gives you 20 points. Academic is best to sit, more difficult but can be used for all 3 processes of the application. It is needed to assess your level of english! Yes you will need to wait for your pin until you can apply to Aphra. You have to have your skills assessed by ANMAC which is the longest part they will forward all docs to Aphra for you if you request them to also. Once you have these then you apply for visa...... Also with much research, practically everywhere wants a minimum of 1 year experience if not 2 (not saying everywhere), as for the graduate programs, well, from research and reading other posts regarding this, it can prove to be very difficult to obtain this. 1 thing to remember is when you have qualified and you have your pin collate all info required by the time you get over there a year may well have passed anyway or certainly near to it. Read and research all things required as there is alot of info to collate to send which takes time before you get to the point of submitting anything. This forum has proved to be very useful and full of info for me . So good luck with everything and do 1 thing at a time you will get there x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadah Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hello BaileyCat. When are you looking at moving to Australia? I am in a similar situation but i don't actually start my Midwifery Training until September, so i will be in your shoes in 3 years time. My husband has a job lined up in Australia already and we would have moved next year if it wasn't for me getting into Uni this year. He is joining the Royal Australian Navy, which means that we go over as a family on a permanent resident visa and then 3 months later become Australian citizens. I am hoping that this will stand me in good stead when it comes to looking for a job as i won't have to jump through all the hoops that the visa application process seems to be. I know its 3 years off for me, but we are likely to move as soon as i have completed my 3 year course, so i will not have the opportunity to gain any newly qualified midwife experience in the UK. I'm really interested in this thread, as obviously i also would like to know or hear from newly qualified midwives who have managed to gain a job in Oz straight after finishing their degree in the UK. Does anyone know if this ever happens? Although my visa situation will be easier than some, i am worried how i will be able to gain experience as a newly qualified midwife when i get to Australia. I don't want my training to have been for nothing, but i also cant expect my husband to put his job off for a further year so that i can gain experience as a qualified midwife in the Uk before we go. Hoping someone out there may have moved to Australia as a newly qualified midwife and gained a job. We are looking at going to Sydney if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanie7 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hey Bailey im also qualifying as a midwife in September this year I am moving to the Gold Coast in Sept as my partner already lives out and set up with buisness and house. I am starting to worry that i wont be able to get a job as newly qualified, as it seems from other posts and what i have heard that hospitals like uk midwives to have experience in the UK. Im really hoping this isnt the case as have already done 2 years of working for my degree here and flying to oz to see my loved one when i can...i just want to live and work there now! Im flying over to gold coast in Feb so i will go in and hopefully speak to someone in the maternity hospital about our queries! I will let you know the outcome! I looked into a graduate program at a private hospital but was told to just apply when im qualified plus they have a lot of oz students wanting the graduate program too! I dont know much about AHPRA... but have literally just filled out an application for visa eligibility and am eligible for 3 different visas... just waiting on a call in the next 48 hours for more help with visas! Sorry for the long reply... so happy to find people in the same boat as me! xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenPen Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Exact same boat practically Stephanie!! I am qualifying in Sept and it is more favourable to have ex in UK but I am hoping if have a PR visa and either on way out or out there then I will get a job ok eeeeek! Lets hold hands and panic together xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teal 123 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hi everyone, I am due to qualify in 2015 (not feeling confident with the word qualify with upcoming exams) my partner and I have been looking to do this for some years however I fell pregnant with my daughter and wanted to fulfil my lifelong passion of becoming a midwife. we have looked into various visa etc but worried about the experience I may need as a new graduate finding a job. My partner has been offered jobs and we have no doubt he will get work without an issue but I am worried as someone else mentioned in the thread, all the hard training going to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanie7 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hey JenPen so glad other people are in the same boat!! haha Really thought the hard bit would be to get through this degree with my partner living over the otherside of the world....but it looks like actually getting a job straight from qualified will be tougher! I think i will do the same as you and just get visa and go out to live in oz and see what i can do about job! Trying not to stress too much about it as have exams coming up end of feb!! Are you doing emergency scenarios at the mo? Hey Teal, dont feel nervous about the midwifery degree... i found the 2nd year of study the hardest, but u get through it! Time goes so quick and u will be in your final year before you know it! I will hopefully let u know that its easier than we thought getting a job in oz when im out there once i qualify!! fingers crossed anyway! Where are you student midwives training? x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Stars Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I am due to qualify in Jan 2016 although I will finish uni in 2015 will have to wait until then for my pin etc. I'm a student nurse not a midwife but like others are hoping nothing changes lol. Good luck everyone!! Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobdylansbird Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hey Guys, Just to tell you about my experience as it may help...? I qualified as a mental health nurse in March 2013 and had a job offer in November 2012 before I had even qualified!!! Dont let other people tell you you need working experience to get a job as you dont and you certainly dont need to do the Aussie grad year as this is an extra year of study that the Aussie nurses need to do to specialise in their chosen area....UK training is already specialised...the aussie nurses need to do 3 years as a general nurse and then 1 or 2 years as a grad to specialise in their chosen field...ie..it would mean me as a mental health nurse would do 3 years as a general nurse and then just 1 as a mental health nurse...its crazy!!! Basically I applied to several hospitals with my wobbly CV and had a telephone interview and was offered the job. I got it over newly qualified Aussie nurses as my boss told me my UK training is much better and this meant I had much more experience!! I was in exactly the same situation as you guys, bricking it as to whether AHPRA would even register me with no experience but it all went well for me. My hospital sponsors 457 visas and has recruited several other UK nurses, some on working holiday visas and offered sponsorship within a few months... It is possible!!! Hope this is of some help..... PM me if anyone wants a chat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toodolou Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveAGirlShoes Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 My hospital sponsors 457 visas and has recruited several other UK nurses, some on working holiday visas and offered sponsorship within a few months... Where exactly is this hospital... I'm not a nurse but currently studying for an Allied Health role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenPen Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hey Guys, Just to tell you about my experience as it may help...? I qualified as a mental health nurse in March 2013 and had a job offer in November 2012 before I had even qualified!!! Dont let other people tell you you need working experience to get a job as you dont and you certainly dont need to do the Aussie grad year as this is an extra year of study that the Aussie nurses need to do to specialise in their chosen area....UK training is already specialised...the aussie nurses need to do 3 years as a general nurse and then 1 or 2 years as a grad to specialise in their chosen field...ie..it would mean me as a mental health nurse would do 3 years as a general nurse and then just 1 as a mental health nurse...its crazy!!! Basically I applied to several hospitals with my wobbly CV and had a telephone interview and was offered the job. I got it over newly qualified Aussie nurses as my boss told me my UK training is much better and this meant I had much more experience!! I was in exactly the same situation as you guys, bricking it as to whether AHPRA would even register me with no experience but it all went well for me. My hospital sponsors 457 visas and has recruited several other UK nurses, some on working holiday visas and offered sponsorship within a few months... It is possible!!! Hope this is of some help..... PM me if anyone wants a chat! Thank you very much for sharing your experiences with us all, it does help and I am sure some are a little relieved to hear that it is possible. After doing my own research also, I too found that the Grad program is not mandatory for nurses or midwives. All these things are just for if you want it. The Grad Program is extra support, so yes it would be fab, but to be honest if they know you are NQM/N and from another country they are not just gonna say - go crack on with it and not give you any sort of orientation or induction. Congratulations on your job, how are you finding it working there after almost a year? Where in Australia are you? Thank you again, personal stories are always invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenPen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 BUMP How is everyone getting on with their journey's? I am going to start to apply for jobs soon! x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I qualify in Sept as an RMN, I have a job here in UK and want to apply for a permanent visa so I have set my sights on Sept 2015 for a move. Id have loved to go sooner but out of the 100s of hospitals I contacted they all quoted 12 months experience. Good luck to others that can make the move sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoor73 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I qualify in Sept as an RMN, I have a job here in UK and want to apply for a permanent visa so I have set my sights on Sept 2015 for a move. Id have loved to go sooner but out of the 100s of hospitals I contacted they all quoted 12 months experience. Good luck to others that can make the move sooner. Hi jac2011 I hope you don't mind me asking but what visa are you hoping to go on?!? You said you would like to go on a permanent visa...we are in a similar situation my husband is at uni at the moment studying to be an occupational therapist he qualifies next June 2015 we would like to go asap and preferably on a permanent visa...there is a strong possibility he will have a job to go over to but when I checked the visas it states he will need 3 years work experience...can you qualify get a years work experience and apply for a visa and move within the year?!? Sorry for waffling on...Emma x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkendall Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Hi everyone Im in a similar but slightly different situation. Qualifying this July as a children's nurse and moving to Perth in September. I do have Australian citizenship as i lived there when i was younger but anyway.... I have just returned from Perth on a 2 week holiday to sort stuff out an spoke to a couple of hospitals. PMH and recruitment pool at the new Fiona Stanley hospital opening this December and they did say experience in the UK is preferable but they will definitely take me on if I'm successful etc. Im on the final few weeks of my last placement and I'm just doing things like getting the wards newly qualified competancies and getting them signed off to take with me in my portfolio etc. I know Perth have two huge hospitals opening so I'm under the impression they cannot really say no to nurses so i have stopped worrying and just going to move and hope for the best. Hope this helps anyone that is worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta2 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 My son is an Australian citizen and will be moving back to Brisbane in October 2015, with his British partner. Having had one baby recently and pregnant with another, she is now determined to change careers and become a midwife. She is doing premidwifery qualifications in the UK (biology etc) and is hoping to be accepted by a Brisbane university next year. We hope she is a Permanent Resident by then, otherwise the fee for an international student is $26,500. As you may know, the tertiary sector is in some turmoil and fees in 2016 for local students are still unknown, depending on what happens in the Senate, although local students can defer their repayments via HECS etc until after they graduate. Question: in Queensland, would she be better off doing a combined Midwifery/RN degree? She is not keen on nursing as such, but I worry that Midwifery alone might not have good job prospects. I also wonder if she can expect to stay in Brisbane, or be required to do a stint in regional hospital. (Queensland is a very decentralised state.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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