Guest JK2510 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'm not a fan of dentists Nicola but tbh it wasn't too bad...the dentist was from hull,UK..and she was lovely. I felt quite sore for a few days and my jaw was sore due to the tugging and the angle. I just took nurofen plus for a few days. With your medibank cover your out of pocket costs would probably be under $100,perhaps as low as $50. I went to a DB dental which have several places around perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolac34 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'm not a fan of dentists Nicola but tbh it wasn't too bad...the dentist was from hull,UK..and she was lovely. I felt quite sore for a few days and my jaw was sore due to the tugging and the angle. I just took nurofen plus for a few days. With your medibank cover your out of pocket costs would probably be under $100,perhaps as low as $50. I went to a DB dental which have several places around perth Yep, that's who I went to as well, the one in South Lake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest74886 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I am certain you are far too intelligent to actually believe your last two sentences.5 years tuition fees works out to the best end of £45,000, and given that a medical course is full time as an undergraduate, not 30 weeks a year, there is no prospect of a job at Tescos, McDonalds, etc., etc. to reduce the liability, so it is reasonable to assume most Doctors will qualify with indebtedness of at least £70,000, some even more so. That has to be paid back, and will take a long time at levels of pay the NHS offer, so I look forward to your calculations to show just how long an NHS Doctor would have to work to repay his or her student debt, and why they should have to prolong their period of indebtedness, to work in a system that fails to appreciate them. How much debt does a environmental health officer, a social worker or teacher leave uni with and what is their take home pay?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisheys Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I've just had my first trip to the dentist in around 3 years here in Perth, and to be honest I didn't think it was as bad as I was fearing! Bill for a consultation, x-rays, scales and polish and some flouride treatment came to $240 - and I only had to pay $72 of that as medibank covered the rest (and I haven't had the policy a year). According to them I need 2 fillings and a wisdom tooth removed. Quote for the two fillings (white ones) comes in at $295 of which medibank will pick up 70% of that, so from what I was paying in the UK I think its comparable. Don't know what the wisdom tooth is going to set me back yet, but will wait until it bothers me for that one as the idea of it being taken our terrifys me! You might find your Private Medical Insurance covers surgical removal of a wisdom tooth, if it is done by a recognised specialist. Expect to feel grim for about two weeks afterwards. good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisheys Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Sounds horrific!! Mine is at the top and the reason it needs to come out is because it's rotting because it's in such a difficult location to be able to brush it and keep it clean.... so doesn't sound easy to get out! I hate injections at the dentist - once refused to have one and made the dentist do a filling without any anesthetic!! He wasn't impressed as it took twice as long because he kept having to stop and start because I was in pain. Most people I know (of which there are a few here - most people seem to get their wisdom teeth whipped out!) have been put under local anesthetic to have them taken out, so might go down that route. Upper ones are easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisheys Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) How much debt does a environmental health officer, a social worker or teacher leave uni with and what is their take home pay?. Well if people start endlessly bitching and sniping about how much they get paid I am sure we will find out. By the way, why does an Environmental Health Officer, or a Social Worker need a degree? No wonder the country can't afford to pay to train Doctors and Dentists leaving them with huge debts upon qualification, and needing to work in the private sector, or abroad. Edited May 7, 2013 by The Fisheys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 ........well worth finding one you can connect with........ I don't want one I can connect with...I want to be so zonked out that I don't know what's going on!:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Fisheyes can I ask you to elaborate on the rationing of dental treatment on the NHS you mentioned earlier ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Scale and polish is about half what you say, and a crown about $1500. The NHS would pay around £37 to a dentist / hygienist so your price for a private scale seems truly remarkable. Well remarkable or not I was just quoting what I have paid in both countries, in UK prior to 2010 and in Australia post 2010. BTW, I think most people are just commenting on the relative prices between UK and Australia, there is no reason to be affronted. It is more expensive here and it was just good sense for someone to get work done before they move if they have work to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galahad Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) It's clear that prices vary enormously - whichever hemisphere you are in..... I paid considerably more than Rupert for a hygienist clean & slightly more for a crown......from a very good private practice all the way down here in South Devon...a long way from Central London... Having been reassured that it's OK to recommend a GOOD service/practice etc. I have no hesitation in recommending 'Face Value' in Albert Street, Brisbane..... Fabulous & friendly, approachable & compassionate in an emergency.... To be honest I don't begrudge any money spent on my teeth, keeping them clean, healthy & 'there'.... I mean honestly, that there are professionals who make a career of doing things in people's mouths is beyond commendable..... :yes: Edited May 7, 2013 by Galahad typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisheys Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Fisheyes can I ask you to elaborate on the rationing of dental treatment on the NHS you mentioned earlier ? I will PM you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 By the way, why does an Environmental Health Officer, or a Social Worker need a degree? d. I was kind of with you up to that point....do you know what an EHO has to cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellers and Whitehead Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Well if people start endlessly bitching and sniping about how much they get paid I am sure we will find out.By the way, why does an Environmental Health Officer, or a Social Worker need a degree? No wonder the country can't afford to pay to train Doctors and Dentists leaving them with huge debts upon qualification, and needing to work in the private sector, or abroad. I'm a social worker, and you ask why does such a career requires a degree!?! I'm personally insulted that you minimise the skills and knowledge required in working with children and families (abused) in my case. Would you prefer an un qualified person making life changing decisions for children/families?? This does happen in Australia at times, however resulting in shocking decisions made to the detriment of the child. Its funny because you said you were sick of reading such things about dentists, I feel the same about negative press about social workers, however both are controversial, my career for people seeing we don't do enough etc etc, yours I Oz because its expensive..same ****, different jobs. Edited May 7, 2013 by Wellers and Whitehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I mean honestly, that there are professionals who make a career of doing things in people's mouths is beyond commendable..... :yes: IMHO it's also beyond comprehensible.:yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Shoes Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 IMHO it's also beyond comprehensible.:yes: I imagine at times it is a dirty job .... I worked as a DSA when I ran a dental practice and not everyone's dental hygiene was top priority .... I nearly fainted on more than one occasion ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I imagine at times it is a dirty job .... I worked as a DSA when I ran a dental practice and not everyone's dental hygiene was top priority .... I nearly fainted on more than one occasion ..... Yes...I can imagine...although I'm trying hard not to! :wink: There's another thread for you Love Shoes: "Which occupation/s would you least like to do?" I think dentist would be top of my list, closely followed by police officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Shoes Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Yes...I can imagine...although I'm trying hard not to! :wink:There's another thread for you Love Shoes: "Which occupation/s would you least like to do?" I think dentist would be top of my list, closely followed by police officer. Oh I haven't seen that .... Must look for it, undertaker comes to mind too, but the dentistry was gross at times .... I can see why The Fish gets upset and angry ..... I wouldn't like to be looking in mouths all day then coming home to relax, check out the forum & see yet another thread about the exorbitant cost of dental treatment ..... i wouldn't mind betting that there are more germs in a mouth than a bottom ........ ! Edited May 7, 2013 by Love Shoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Oh I haven't seen that .... Must look for it, undertaker comes to mind too, but the dentistry was gross at times .... I can see why The Fish gets upset and angry ..... I wouldn't like to be looking in mouths all day then coming home to relax, check out the forum & see yet another thread about the exorbitant cost of dental treatment ..... i wouldn't mind betting that there are more germs in a mouth than a bottom ........ ! Dentists are highly paid. Nurses have to do far worse - and are paid a lot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisheys Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'm a social worker, and you ask why does such a career requires a degree!?! I'm personally insulted that you minimise the skills and knowledge required in working with children and families (abused) in my case. Would you prefer an un qualified person making life changing decisions for children/families?? This does happen in Australia at times, however resulting in shocking decisions made to the detriment of the child.Its funny because you said you were sick of reading such things about dentists, I feel the same about negative press about social workers, however both are controversial, my career for people seeing we don't do enough etc etc, yours I Oz because its expensive..same ****, different jobs. Sorry that you feel insulted, I didn't set out to do that, I don't feel my question was insulting, but if you were then I unreservedly apologise to you. I remember a famous case in the 1980s when an at risk child was killed because the Social Worker (qualified), had forged visit reports, whilst getting wasted in the Queens Head. My question was rather "does everyone who enters these type of jobs need a degree at the beginning of their career, as certainly in the UK Civil Service there are career pathways that allow for in service training, whereas medical, dental, and teaching jobs require a degree as a starting point?" I would also point out it was another poster who threw up "social workers," and attacked my profession, which like you I will defend. Have a good night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Sorry that you feel insulted, I didn't set out to do that, I don't feel my question was insulting, but if you were then I unreservedly apologise to you. I remember a famous case in the 1980s when an at risk child was killed because the Social Worker (qualified), had forged visit reports, whilst getting wasted in the Queens Head. My question was rather "does everyone who enters these type of jobs need a degree at the beginning of their career, as certainly in the UK Civil Service there are career pathways that allow for in service training, whereas medical, dental, and teaching jobs require a degree as a starting point?" I would also point out it was another poster who threw up "social workers," and attacked my profession, which like you I will defend. Have a good night. Oh come on. There are reports of Dentists ( qualifed ) who have infected,disfigured or defrauded their clients. My point is that there are inferior practitioners in any profession ( as well as good ones ). So, why make your snarky remark about Social Workers 'qualified' in the same paragraph as supposedly aplogising to Wellers and Whitehead???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest74886 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Well if people start endlessly bitching and sniping about how much they get paid I am sure we will find out.By the way, why does an Environmental Health Officer, or a Social Worker need a degree? No wonder the country can't afford to pay to train Doctors and Dentists leaving them with huge debts upon qualification, and needing to work in the private sector, or abroad. I think that comment just exemplifies how inward looking the medical professions are and how much hubris there is in the medical world, of course social workers and environmental officers require a degree or do you think medicine is the only profession that requires a degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Shoes Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Dentists are highly paid. Nurses have to do far worse - and are paid a lot less. So not only have we brought social workers, teachers, health and safety inspectors into this slanging match we now have nurses too, this is getting ridiculous and way out of context .... boring, boring, boring ...... :dull: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest74886 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 So not only have we brought social workers, teachers, health and safety inspectors into this slanging match we now have nurses too, this is getting ridiculous and way out of context .... boring, boring, boring ...... :dull: No not boring at all because the origin of this post was the availability and cost of dental treatment and I think we have established that one of the reasons for the high cost is that a rationale advanced as a valid argument for those high costs is that dentists spend more than others in getting trained and possibly take longer to train, but there are alternative views that other professions just as essential have to pay for their training also and unlike dentistry they have to stick out in much lower paid jobs , often for years, before they start earning good money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Guys can we just try and steer this back on track please. Just keep the comments on subject and lets not go getting personal or the moderator hat will have to come out of the cupboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest74886 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Guys can we just try and steer this back on track please. Just keep the comments on subject and lets not go getting personal or the moderator hat will have to come out of the cupboard Sorry, tried not to make it personal. I'll try to leave the itch unscratched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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