Guest scrumpy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 In what way were things worse before she came along? I dont know, but I would like to know how she won 3 elections and seved for 10years, if good ol blighty just nose-dived on her watch?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 You mean when the country was being run by militant unions that would strike at the drop of a hat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 A necessary evil? A bit like Winston Churchill perhaps? What happened to him in 1945? Would the Argentine flag still be flying over the "Malvinas?" Would the Falkland Islanders have joined the ranks of "The Disappeared?" Would Arthur Scargill and his ilk still be wielding their malign power? To our Irish jigger. I don't remember there being any huge exodus of Britain's Irish community during her "reign?" And perhaps at the time many Britons felt the same way as she did about Ireland? They kept re-electing her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 In what way were things worse before she came along? Before Thatcher..... Trade Unions running, no, ruining the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think it's quite sick how horrible people are being....maybe I wasn't around when she was in power but I wouldn't wish anyone dead, especially an elderly lady. Still she lived until a good age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 She came to power at a time when the previous Labour Government had bought the country to its knees economically and tough decisions had to be made, it sounds remarkably familiar. I know some will have their fingers in their ears repeating la la la over and over but it is the harsh reality. She inherited a basket case economy and turned it around, that is why she was in power for 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury61 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I dont know, but I would like to know how she won 3 elections and seved for 10years, if good ol blighty just nose-dived on her watch?? because ....old witch .....the old bag , as some called her was a strong lady with strong convictions , we knew where we stood . Should we have chosen, that colossus MICHAEL FOOT. At this time we needed a strong leader who gave us a bit of pride back ......as i said the place was a joke,in the late 70s, ......strikes ....the winter of discontent ......a leadership that couldnt run a bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury61 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 She came to power at a time when the previous Labour Government had bought the country to its knees economically and tough decisions had to be made, it sounds remarkably familiar. I know some will have their fingers in their ears repeating la la la over and over but it is the harsh reality. She inherited a basket case economy and turned it around, that is why she was in power for 10 years. In a nutshell HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) She didnt just run the country , she saved it ......just looking at the mess she inherited in the late 70s .....( sounds familiar ).......i didnt agree with all of her politics ......but what a great leader and figurehead .Her first love was for these islands , and their standing in the world .........under labour in the 70s , the place was a joke ..........she put us back on the top table We havent got "that" much standing in the world bunbury,sad but true,loads of nations are catching us up as regards being a power house,Brazil for one,so we haven't been at the top table for a while imo,countries like Germany weild much more power than us im afraid to say. Her first love was for herself,thats why she sold off the likes of British Gas,BP(now the worlds 3rd biggest energy supplier),the railways as well,who now get more in subsidies for the shareholders dividends than we use to have to pay when it was nationalised,so for "me",she sold off the family silver so her term in power looked good,any party could have sold off our Gas,Electric,Rail and water companies,collected the money and made out their term was fiscally sound,it wasnt rocket science As regards some of the comments made on this thread,i cant blame anyone for hating her,i hated her,i just dont choose to celebrate anybodies death,thats all,she has family,kids,grandkids etc? So her family will be going through a miserable time at the mo,her family done me no harm so i cant celebrate her death because by the same token im celebrating her families misery,but i "did" hate her,im no hypocrite,so i wont lie,but personally i feel nothing,neither sadness or joy. People WILL be celebrating tonight,i know all our labourers are getting together for a drink,and i know from all the cheering on site when the news came on the radio today. She was in charge of a gvnmt that wanted to "oversee a managed decline" of Liverpool,who wanted to deprive us of the funding every other city gets,she and her advisors had no time whatsoever for Liverpool,so it doesnt surprise me some here will celebrate,and i wont condemn them,but for me i dont feel anything about her dying as ive said Edited April 8, 2013 by pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I did not like her but I Loathed Scargill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think it is truly disgusting that some are celebrating her death, not surprising though to be honest. Britain is still a very well respected nation around the world and punches well above its weight, I dont think that would have been the case had Labour been at the helm during those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) She came to power at a time when the previous Labour Government had bought the country to its knees economically and tough decisions had to be made, it sounds remarkably familiar. I know some will have their fingers in their ears repeating la la la over and over but it is the harsh reality. She inherited a basket case economy and turned it around, that is why she was in power for 10 years. Well the Yom Kippur war caused a lot of problems for various countries in the 70's,with oil prices quadrupling,not just the UK's gvnmt. In 1978 inflation was back down to single figures,unemployment falling,productivity rising(in nationalised industries as well). Noth sea oil revenues were starting to come in,we had a massive trade surplus of 246 mill,and the standard of living had risen by 6.4% to reach its highest ever level,doesnt sound like "on its knees" to me Chris,not perfect i know,but not on its knees Edited April 8, 2013 by pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think it is truly disgusting that some are celebrating her death, not surprising though to be honest. Britain is still a very well respected nation around the world and punches well above its weight, I dont think that would have been the case had Labour been at the helm during those years. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury61 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 We havent got "that" much standing in the world bunbury,sad but true,loads of nations are catching us up as regards being a power house,Brazil for one,so we haven't been at the top table for a while imo,countries like Germany weild much more power than us im afraid to say.Her first love was for herself,thats why she sold off the likes of British Gas,BP(now the worlds 3rd biggest energy supplier),the railways as well,who now get more in subsidies for the shareholders dividends than we use to have to pay when it was nationalised. As regards some of the comments made on this thread,i cant blame anyone for hating her,i hated her,i just dont choose to celebrate anybodies death,thats all,she has family,kids,grandkids etc? So her family will be going through a miserable time at the mo,her family done me no harm so i cant cfelebrate her death because by the same token im celebrating her families misery,but i "did" hate her,im no hypocrite,so i wont lie,but personally i feel nothing,neither sadness or joy. People WILL be celebrating tonight,i know all our labourers are getting together for a drink,and i know from all the cheering on site when the news came on the radio today. She was in charge of a gvnmt that wanted to "oversee a managed decline" of Liverpool,who wanted to deprive us of the funding every other city gets,she and her advisors had no time whatsoever for Liverpool,so it doesnt surprise me some here will celebrate,and i wont condemn them,but for me i dont feel anything about her dying as ive said DEPRIVED liverpool ?.......have you spent time in inner city brum ?..........liverpool and manchester for that matter have had millions spent on them ......new roads .....infastructure .....you are living in a parallel universe .....have a drive around spaghetti junction . Iam just listening to that champagne socialist deggsy on the tele .......w.nker ..... I would rather have Maggie .....flag ......country ......royal family ......end of Better that, than some militant shower of sh.te trying bring the country to its knees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I dont know, but I would like to know how she won 3 elections and seved for 10years, if good ol blighty just nose-dived on her watch?? Well the 70's were blighted by a lot of needless strikes,some were valid,but not all,so people got sick of unions,to most unions =Labour Party. The latter election was at least partly won by a lot of chest beating over the Falklands war,a war we "just" managed to avoid defeat in,as commanders on the ground and sea have admitted since,hence her 11 yrs was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Well the 70's were blighted by a lot of needless strikes,some were valid,but not all,so people got sick of unions,to most unions =Labour Party.The latter election was at least partly won by a lot of chest beating over the Falklands war,a war we "just" managed to avoid defeat in,as commanders on the ground and sea have admitted since,hence her 11 yrs was it? Pablo....keep calm and drink whisky :wink: you're gonna set fire to the keyboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scrumpy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The Embassy seige must have got votes? Brits did like a good scrap in those days, I can remember seeing the homecomeing down at Plymouth, fantastic memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 DEPRIVED liverpool ?.......have you spent time in inner city brum ?..........liverpool and manchester for that matter have had millions spent on them ......new roads .....infastructure .....you are living in a parallel universe .....have a drive around spaghetti junction .Iam just listening to that champagne socialist deggsy on the tele .......w.nker ..... I would rather have Maggie .....flag ......country ......royal family ......end of Better that, than some militant shower of sh.te trying bring the country to its knees I dont think i said "deprived Liverpool" did i? I said thatcher wanted to "deprive Liverpool" of the funding every other city got,did the tories want to "oversee a managed decline" of Brum?no!they did my city though,and i wont ever forget that bunbury,ok Yeah,youre the type who would stand out in the rain for 24 hrs to watch queen lizzy and her stunt hand waving out of the car window for a fleeting second,good for you lah:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scrumpy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Well the 70's were blighted by a lot of needless strikes,some were valid,but not all,so people got sick of unions,to most unions =Labour Party.The latter election was at least partly won by a lot of chest beating over the Falklands war,a war we "just" managed to avoid defeat in,as commanders on the ground and sea have admitted since,hence her 11 yrs was it? I was always taught that if you play badly and still win, its a sign of a great team. Im absolutley fascinated by Falkland documentaries, and it dose sound like if the Argies could of got hold of more Excosets, then it could of been very very different. I was at school with kids whos Dads were Paras or Marines, and over there But we did make some major mistakes (such as the majority of helicopters on one ship). However grit and determination got them threw. Proud proud days!! Edited April 8, 2013 by scrumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Keating and Hawke brought about the same changes in Australia without any of the bitterness and divisiveness that woman caused. Because she stood up to unions, who had the country on its knees...and closing mines that were unprofitable Yes people suffered, they always do when change is brought about, but they were suffering more before she came along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Pablo....keep calm and drink whisky :wink: you're gonna set fire to the keyboard! Lmao,im perfectly calm mrs tbh,in fact i wasnt going to comment one way or the other on this thread ,because everyone knows what i thought of her anyway,but seeing as others arent just using the thread to commiserate etc,that some are using it for political opinions etc,i thought i might as well stick my nose in as well Stacy,they love a commie to bash on here anyway,all the fascist bas7ards on pio................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Lmao,im perfectly calm mrs tbh,in fact i wasnt going to comment one way or the other on this thread ,because everyone knows what i thought of her anyway,but seeing as others arent just using the thread to commiserate etc,that some are using it for political opinions etc,i thought i might as well stick my nose in as well Stacy,they love a commie to bash on here anyway,all the fascist bas7ards on pio................... Well you keep your beak out! Don't lower yourself! :realmad: :wubclub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I was always taught that if you play badly and still win, its a sign of a great team.Im absolutley fascinated by Falkland documentaries, and it dose sound like if the Argies could of got hold of more Excosets, then it could of been very very different. I was at school with kids whos Dads were Paras or Marines, and over there But we did make some major mistakes (such as the majority of helicopters on one ship). However grit and determination got them threw. Proud proud days!! oOOOOOOOH hang on a minute ffs! im trying to make a spliff,drink whisky and crabbies AND trying to catch up with replies,go asleep for half an hour,no one will notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Need I say Blair? He won a few elections too if I remember. With alot of, what I can only see as disgust towards Mrs Thatcher, how on earth did she win 3 elections and serve as PM for 10 years?? Will anyone else match that this centuary. because if they cant, they must be doing a worse job than she had!! I really feel sorry for them and the remarks that will be left for these failures!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scrumpy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 oOOOOOOOH hang on a minute ffs! im trying to make a spliff,drink whisky and crabbies AND trying to catch up with replies,go asleep for half an hour,no one will notice No prob, no rush, I think I can just about manage to wait and contain my excitement for your most informative and entertaining reply, ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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