Guest spreadingwings Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 If a dependent parent is granted a 190 visa successfully, am I right in thinking that they're able to claim social security after a 2 year waiting period in Aus? If so, what kind of monthly payment would they receive? If they found a job, would they still receive social security because they're over 65? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Is this someone who already has pr? Just questioning as for most people it isn't possible to put a parent as a dependent. Well, Brits can't anyway, and your English seems very good, so I'm assuming you are from somewhere with a state pension. I can't answer your actual questions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spreadingwings Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Is this someone who already has pr? Just questioning as for most people it isn't possible to put a parent as a dependent. Hi Blossom. Have a look here: http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/ 189/190 PR visa applicants can include dependent parents in their visa application, provided that they prove financial dependency. So this led to me wondering whether they could then claim social security after the 2 year waiting period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flathead Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hi Blossom. Have a look here: http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/ 189/190 PR visa applicants can include dependent parents in their visa application, provided that they prove financial dependency. So this led to me wondering whether they could then claim social security after the 2 year waiting period. What country are you from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yes, I know you can include them, but they have to be totally financially dependent on you. If they get a state pension, as people in the uk do, then they don't qualify as a dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/information/centrelink-website Have a look at the Center link site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Which social security payment did you have in mind? They wont be able to get the aged payment because there is a 10 year wait for that to kick in. So I cant see that they would be eligible for much. It is very rare for a parent to be considered a dependent on a visa and if you are from a HR country then the wait can be very long indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spreadingwings Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm in South Africa. My mom is completely dependent on me financially, she lives with me in a house I own, and this can be proved with the required documentation. I'm not sure why it's considered rare if it's a normal part of the application process as explained on the DIAC site at the link above. As for any state pension in South Africa, this amount is R1200 per month, which equates to $139 or £89. There is no way anyone could live on this amount as it barely covers a single basket of groceries, never mind rent, medicine, insurance, or any other kind of living expenses at all. Thanks lebourvellec and Quoll for the info - Centrelink's site confirms that it's a 10 year residency wait until any pension is paid out (http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/age-pension/eligibility-for-age-pension). My mom would be looking to work once we arrive anyway, but the question about pension was more out of interest than necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flathead Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I'm in South Africa. My mom is completely dependent on me financially, she lives with me in a house I own, and this can be proved with the required documentation. I'm not sure why it's considered rare if it's a normal part of the application process as explained on the DIAC site at the link above. As for any state pension in South Africa, this amount is R1200 per month, which equates to $139 or £89. There is no way anyone could live on this amount as it barely covers a single basket of groceries, never mind rent, medicine, insurance, or any other kind of living expenses at all. Thanks lebourvellec and Quoll for the info - Centrelink's site confirms that it's a 10 year residency wait until any pension is paid out (http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/age-pension/eligibility-for-age-pension). My mom would be looking to work once we arrive anyway, but the question about pension was more out of interest than necessity. Your mother can not work if she is totally dependent on you.......if she is able to work she is not dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 .if she is able to work she is not dependent Not so. The OP should consult a RMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flathead Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Not so. The OP should consult a RMA. Well that just makes the rules on dependency ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spreadingwings Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 It's not ridiculous at all. Dependency relies on proving financial dependency. Just because she is ABLE to work does not mean that anyone will hire someone who is 67 years old. Otherwise it could be argued that a 100 year old who is still able to walk and talk should be considered independent because they are still ABLE to work. Nevertheless, the ability to work is not a requirement of dependency, which can be seen here: http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/ To include your other dependent relative(s) in your application, there are requirements and evidence that must be provided to prove dependency. To be considered a dependent relative you must prove they: have no other relative able to care for them in their own country are not currently married, engaged or in a de facto relationship usually are a resident in your household depend on you for financial support for their basic needs and you have supported them for a substantial period depend on you more than any other person or source. Acceptable forms of proof include: a certified copy of their birth certificate and proof of their relationship to you proof that the relative lives in your household proof that your relative has been dependent on you for at least the last 12 months. if your relative is divorced, legally separated or widowed, you must provide certified copies of supporting evidence, such as: the document of legal divorce the document of legal separation the death certificate of the deceased partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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