dslinkov87 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 At the moment I'm doing such a "nice" thing as writing career episodes and a summary statement. There is the appendix in the end of the booklet with explanations related to each paragraph of summary statement table. Some paragraphs have up to 10 subparagraphs with numbers a,b,c... etc. Do I have to address each subparagraph in my summary statement table or is it enough to cover just some of them? And one more question. Was anybody asked by Engineers Australia to rewrite his episodes or summary statement? Frankly speaking, new summary statement table has so many vague definitions that I can't be sure whether I write exactly what Engineers want me to write there. Thank you in advance for your answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 can not help you with the first part, as its long ago since i wrote my CDRs and not sure what might have changed ... as for the second part ... yes they give you 2 chances to re-write it .... and i guess the do not charge you the whole fee .. just little amount ... happened to a friend ... a word of advise ... make it according to the format they ask you ... will save you lot of processing time ... stay safe ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastie Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Agree with Dawood. Stick to the format and read and re-read the guidance booklet. Everything you need to know is there. Use I and not We and all that good stuff. I addressed all or at least nearly all the sub paras. It's not easy and took several weeks of effort. Not something you can complete in a couple of evenings. Best of luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattybe Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Each competency element has to be addressed. I didn't address every single sub para, not sure that's even possible given some have up to 12 sub paras. I addressed each competency element at least twice (sometimes 4/5/6 times) with statements of how I met the element i.e. "I conducted an investigation into ......." and referenced the career episode and paragraph number. Its my understanding that the sub paras are indications of how the element can be addressed. Must admit though, I spent ages reading the booklet, and even longer doing the CERs/Summary. Then had to go back and tweak paragraphs, numbering etc etc. Once done properly though it makes it really obvious why they request this format. Anyone who has done the CDR route deserves a medal, its a real long slog, and then there is a 15 week wait for processing. There are a couple of samples on the format on the net if you google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslinkov87 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thank you for your answers, friends. Could you help me to understand these points in summary statement: Engages with the engineering discipline at a phenomenological level, applying sciences and engineering fundamentals to systematic investigation, interpretation, analysis and innovative solution of complex problems and broader aspects of engineering practice. Identifies and understands the interactions between engineering systems and people in the social, cultural, environmental, commercial, legal and political contexts in which they operate, including both the positive role of engineering in sustainable development and the potentially adverse impacts of engineering activity in the engineering discipline I'm an electronics engineer and I don't have any clues what to write here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsaglam Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 My boyfriend is a mechanical engineer and he worked mostly as a mechanical group chief in big construction companies. I helped him in writing his CEs and the Summary statements. It took our 14 days. We spent almost 6 hrs every day.. He started with writing the summary statement. So he made up his mind to remember when he did what.. And by starting with the summary, we understood the aim and every skill that he has to prove, in depth. Then wrote the career episodes (First he prepared a summary for an episode, then started talking as if he is telling me what he had done when he was working in X, and I typed when he was talking). Each episode was in chronological order; we did not follow the order of the summary-skills. As the guide says, we had lots of paragraphs, and then by checking the summary statement 1m times, we assigned skills to paragraphs. When doing this, I was the one reading the episodes and typing the numbers. My boyfriend was telling me the "skill numbers" while listening to me. By the way, we first wrote it in our native language and then translated it into English:) It would have taken more time otherwise.. (Only translating took 8 days) Start with the summary, understand it throughly, and start writing the episodes in a chronological order, then assign the skills.. Don't act like a perfectionist in the first draft, cause you will read it million times:))) You will have too many chances to correct a missplelling:)) Take a deep breath, be patient, and find yourselves an assistant :ssign12: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsey10 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Hi, i have just had a successful outcome via CDR with EA. Best advice i can add is as follows. Firstly read and understand each of the competencies that are required. Settle your mind on the three episodes that you are going to use. Produce the Summary Statements first, this may seem a bit back to front but it worked for me. Once you understand what is required write a small paragraph detailing how you have achieved each competency. I supplied at least one instance per episode, per competency. Once the short paragraphs were written to show each competency, i then transposed them into paragraphs in the main body of the cdr. I then embellished each of the paragraphs to tell the story properly. Each paragraph was then placed in chronological order and given numbers which matched the correct place in the summary statements. Sounds a bit long winded but it makes each paragraph worth something, and you dont end up writing lots of stuff for no gain. Hope this helps Feel free to PM me if you need more help. Tony IELTS 27/4/12 R9L9S9W8 --- EA CDR Submitted 27/7/12 - Positive 19/12/12 (Engineering Technologist) EOI 27/11/12 - Invite 03/12/12 (65 Points) --- 189 Visa Paperwork to MARA Agent 10/12/12 189 Visa Submitted - Shortly CO -?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan tang Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Congratulations to dear gasglam and your boyfriend, I'm very excited to read your story. I'm a mechanic engineer in China and I have been preparing to immigrate to Australia for months, which is the biggest dream of my whole family these days.But I have to work for over ten hours every day to support my family, I have little ideas and time to complete the summary and carrer episodes. So I want very much to get your help. Please send your documents to me for my reference, I really need it and I will be very gratiful . If you have chance to China, I would be very happy to treat you and your friend. Please PM Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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