Geordielass44 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hi we have got PR visa with myself (teacher) as main applicant. My husband will finish his degree in Adult Nursing next June in the UK. He is planning to apply for a place on the Graduate Nursing programme in Queensland but we were wondering at what point he can/should be applying to APHRA? Thanks for any advice! (plus will he need to do the IELTS test?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 As APHRA is the body that examines a person's suitability to practice, I would say not until he's qualified as he's not yet eligible to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 AHPRA is the organisation/body that holds registrations - until he actually qualifies he can't be registered. I can't speak for QLD but the competition for graduate places in WA is very high with preference given to Australian trained nurses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Ali is correct, in fact, atm there are newly graduated nurses working as AIN's or unemployed as there are no places for them in the SE corner. Even EN's are having difficulty finding positions in the public sector. It may have all "blown over" by the time he qualifies though as there is likely to be some serious unrest in the health sector, due to newman's current policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordielass44 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Thanks Ali and Johndoe for your replies. My husband is going to apply for the graduate programme to see if he can get on it - nothing ventured nothing gained and all that! However if unsucessful will do as initially suggested and complete his first year here. Now we have PR and will be out in April for our recce we are thinking dates etc for our big move - 2 years (preferable) or 3......:swoon: johndoe are the nurses who get onto the scheme gaining employment at the end or are all recent graduates regardless of getting on the scheme struggling? Would a year's experience working in the UK make him less or more employable in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bazinga Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 As a student nurse I'd say he'd be more employable after some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordielass44 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 [ Would a year's experience working in the UK make him less or more employable in your opinion? Sorry i think thats probably straightforward to answer! I think we will have no choice if he doesnt get on the graduate programme. :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bazinga Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Get him some experience. I think it's a bit cheeky for him to want to do the graduate program quite frankly. He should get a couple of yrs under his belt and then come over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordielass44 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 He has permanent residence and there are other things to consider (age/ daughter etc) so we want to get over asap. There have been quite a few Newly Qualified Nurses who have previously gained places on the programme without PR status. He will give it a go because its open to him to do so ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 [ Would a year's experience working in the UK make him less or more employable in your opinion? Sorry i think thats probably straightforward to answer! I think we will have no choice if he doesnt get on the graduate programme. :smile: Personally, speaking as an oldie .. I don't think you can beat that first year of experience as a qualified nurse, it will also mean that he can be more competative when demonstrating his skills and experience when addressing the selection criteria for jobs. Did you get the PR on your skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 He has permanent residence and there are other things to consider (age/ daughter etc) so we want to get over asap. There have been quite a few Newly Qualified Nurses who have previously gained places on the programme without PR status. He will give it a go because its open to him to do so ...... I think he should try, but do know that preference is given to those who have just completed their training with Australian Universities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordielass44 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 I think he should try, but do know that preference is given to those who have just completed their training with Australian Universities. Hi Ali. I think it is worth him applying and we will plan around both possibilities. He is loving the course and at 43 it is a totally new career path for him (after 25 years working as an engineer on the railways here!) although it is early days he is particularly interested in occupational health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bazinga Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Fair enough, I just don't think Graduate Program places should be going to nurses from overseas when there is quite frankly a **** fight to get on them in the first place between Aussie trained nurses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndoe Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 johndoe are the nurses who get onto the scheme gaining employment at the end or are all recent graduates regardless of getting on the scheme struggling? Would a year's experience working in the UK make him less or more employable in your opinion? Sorry chook but I have to tell it like it is. I have always been one for Bulling up nursing opportunities (public sector) in the SE Corner. My wife has helped many migrants obtain employment in her hospital and a couple of others and has never failed...............alas no more at the current time as she is beating her head against a brick wall. She percepts new grads and uni placements as part of her role and the protocol has been to keep an eye on good placements, and, when they graduate, to invite them to apply for a position. New grads, they haven't employed for a fair while now, and placements are told quite frankly, that they will be struggling for work when they qualify. Many new grads can only gain employment by going regional and many will not do this. One PIO member has recently graduated as an EN and is wanting to progress to her RN. My wife obtained work for her as an AIN whilst she was studying, and she was given 2 shifts in that role. Subsequent to her graduating, she is still being employed as an AIN with no extra shifts and no prospect of being employed on her current ward as an EN. The NUM, has also advised her that she is (eventually) more likely to get full-time work there, or elsewhere, as an EN as opposed to RN, as in the current climate, it would be cheaper for management who are under severe budgetary constraints atm. We have seen all this before with the first year of new governments and then, at a later date, they are screaming out for nurses, so it is nothing new. the only difference this time is that there appears to be a deliberate policy of under-employ in order to drive nurses to the private sector. This is a typical example of one of the issues with Qld health atm http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/one-doctors-rort-stitches-up-2-million-of-queensland-public-health-funds/story-e6frg6n6-1226514749412. Quite frankly...............it's a shambles. There has also been large scale redundancies in the public sector (not health) so picture this, This is the "hidden" result:.....................some of those redundant public sector workers have partners who are nurses. We know of two such cases (friends of ours) whose wives only worked part-time as nurses. Due to their husbands redundancies, they have had to seek further hours and one of them has been unable to get those hours in her own hospital and is having to work them in a different location. Those extra hours (and this is only two cases) are being worked at the expense of perhaps creating a job for a new grad, or another experienced nurse. Also, those nurses who may have been thinking of leaving the profession or retiring, are now thinking twice if their partner's jobs are under threat. That's how it is atm so to answer your question, I would say get that experience in the UK before coming here. Experienced nurses are in more demand than new grads. That said, it could all change tomorrow if the public and unions kick back against this current slasher government, but i wouldn't hold you breath as they have such a huge majority and seem to have an arrogance and complacency regarding the hardship that they have cause in such a short time, that beggars belief. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bazinga Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Things are slightly less dire in other parts of Australia but if your heart is set on QLD then like Johndoe says, experience first will be a huge help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordielass44 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 . Did you get the PR on your skills? Hi Ali i have just seen this message. Yes we got the PR based on my skills - i am a secondary school teacher but specialised in Special Educational Needs. Not sure how easy it will be to get a job but i have lots of experience including working with children with autism, running a Nursery school in Botswana for 2 years, managing the SEN department in a secondary school and a position an advisor on how to support children with complex emotional and behavioural needs within mainstream education....not all at the same time though!! About 22 years experience but still concerned about the job situation for me. Hence the hope hubby would get the job and i would look for employment after....was hoping it would be more straighforward for him but we will have to wait and watch the situation. Made slightly more tricky as daughter is due to go to Uni here next year - she had thought about taking a Gap year and applying to Uni to start in Jan 2016....which gives us 3 years maximum....But would give hubby chance to get 12 months plus experience under his belt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordielass44 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Sorry chook but I have to tell it like it is. Hi Johndoe thats fine hun i would rather be told the situation. I dont want to throw everything in here to find that we cant survive when we move over. We will keep monitoring the situation and hope that things turn around in the next 18months or we will have to change our original plans. Hubby is also interested in aged care - is this an area that with 12 months plus experience he may be successful in finding emplyment? Are jobs in the private sector scarce too? All sounds a bit daunting and - with uncertainty around finding work for myself - a bit unsettling. Maybe we will have to widen our destination choices! I think if it was just my hubby and myself we would consider anywhere but with a daughter moving (a little reluctantly) to the other side of the world with us i need to consider her too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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