starlight7 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I have noticed quite a few Scots return to their native land after trying out Australia. Thinking maybe with the lifestyle and friendly people up there in Scotland it might make it that much harder to settle- they are sure going to miss all the banter and closeness until they can find a friendship circle. We have a few Scottish friends and they really know how to enjoy life- maybe they are not finding that camaraderie and lifestyle over here? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharnashire Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I'm Scottish, and love it here!!! Obviously the weather is the biggest shock lol I think it's the person themselves, where your at in your life. Don't get me wrong I miss Scotland, love the place, and if we hadn't been able to immigrate for whatever reason we would have happily settled in Scotland, ( I was living in England with my partner a year and half before immigrating). I don't think the miles matter if your away from your family and your oldest friends, been no different from living in England for me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest68546 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I'm Scottish, and love it here!!! Obviously the weather is the biggest shock lol I think it's the person themselves, where your at in your life. Don't get me wrong I miss Scotland, love the place, and if we hadn't been able to immigrate for whatever reason we would have happily settled in Scotland, ( I was living in England with my partner a year and half before immigrating). I don't think the miles matter if your away from your family and your oldest friends, been no different from living in England for me!!! I think you underestimate the distance issue; can I ask how long you've been in Oz? Its not a Scottish trait in particular (applicable to most migrants to Oz) but for anyone who are reasonably close to family (not by geography) then the miles and distance away do matter. Unless family live at opposite ends of Scotland/England, its approximately an 8 hour drive from London to Glasgow which is a considerably less and much easier a journey to make than Melbourne to Glasgow in an emergency. Whether it is a perceived feeling of isolation rather than actual isolation doesn't make the feeling of isolation any less or easier to deal with. Skype is no real long-term substitute and is merely a band aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 There's a couple of issues that come to mind as to why Scots as opposed to Southern Englanders would find it harder. First Scots would be even less used to the Australian climate, but probably more importantly is house prices. Southern Englanders still find you get more house for your buck in Australia even in the current market. Scots don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest79615 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 "Southern Englanders still find you get more house for your buck in Australia even in the current market. Scots don't". I'm Scottish, moved to south of england 2 years ago, i don't understand this.. only thing i don't like about england is you don't get as much house for your money xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 "Southern Englanders still find you get more house for your buck in Australia even in the current market. Scots don't". I'm Scottish, moved to south of england 2 years ago, i don't understand this.. only thing i don't like about england is you don't get as much house for your money xx When we were considering emigrating we thought we might move down to the South Coast instead as we had always loved it there and there was a demand for the job I was in. When we looked into it the wages were about the same for the same job but the house prices were astronomical in comparison to where we lived near Stockport. Just wasn't an option in the end. Lucky for us as that really forced us to emigrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Scots people have moved here for a long long time. The Peninsula where I live was settled by scottish people. My oh Uncle migrated to Australia to build the Harbour Bridge in Sydney, he was his mother's eldest brother. He had a big family so there are lots of them up there in Sydney now. Also another cousin also migrated from Scotland to Canberra and has lived there for a long long time and not heading home. Also two of my best friends are married to scots and they are very happy living in Aus. Then of course there is my oh who is not returning to Scotland (well I think he is staying here with me). I have known many Scottish people living here over the years and they are all still here in Melbourne. Must be a new generation thing, the younger ones can see something in Scotland the previous generations could not see. Think it might be money since the North Sea Oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I have noticed quite a few Scots return to their native land after trying out Australia. Thinking maybe with the lifestyle and friendly people up there in Scotland it might make it that much harder to settle- they are sure going to miss all the banter and closeness until they can find a friendship circle. We have a few Scottish friends and they really know how to enjoy life- maybe they are not finding that camaraderie and lifestyle over here? Just a thought. To be honest I see just as many, if not more 'moving back to the UK' posts from English and Irish on here. I know there have been a few recent ones posted from Scots but I definitely don't think there is an issue with Scots finding it harder to settle in Australia than it is for anyone else. It's mostly to do with personality and outside factors such as family etc. I do agree with the aspect that there isn't the same camaraderie over here in Australia, well certainly from what I have witnessed so far and not the same degree of friendliness. Aussies are a friendly bunch and I would never be one of these people that comes on here and complains about them but common courtesies that I was so used to back in Scotland such as someone giving you a wave or a flash of the hazard lights when you let them pull out in front of you at a junction or someone saying "thanks" when you hold a door open for them certainly seem less common, almost a rarity to be honest. But such minor things wouldn't make me decide to go back home to Scotland. I enjoy life here and I am slowly but surely getting used to the cultural differences and try not to compare everything to back home as its just a pointless exercise and I see people becoming obsessed with comparing everything negatively and then exaggerating it somewhat. When you go that route you will end up unhappy. That's my opinion anyway! :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensdad Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Think it's the language barrier lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharnashire Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I think you underestimate the distance issue; can I ask how long you've been in Oz? Its not a Scottish trait in particular (applicable to most migrants to Oz) but for anyone who are reasonably close to family (not by geography) then the miles and distance away do matter. Unless family live at opposite ends of Scotland/England, its approximately an 8 hour drive from London to Glasgow which is a considerably less and much easier a journey to make than Melbourne to Glasgow in an emergency. Whether it is a perceived feeling of isolation rather than actual isolation doesn't make the feeling of isolation any less or easier to deal with. Skype is no real long-term substitute and is merely a band aid. I've only been here since the end of October, and I know I might get a bit homesick in the months to come, but as yet I'm loving the place, texting, phoning, face booking and skyping my family regularly. I'm VERY close to my family, I'm the youngest of 15 children, with countless neices and nephews and used to big family gatherings, joined them on "their" New Year on Skype, but they loved talking to their wee sister who is brave enough to make the move some of them have been unable to do for whatever reason. It was a happy time though, listening to their plans of coming to visit etc., I suppose if you dont dwell on it, it's easier dealt with, take every day as it comes...... Missing watching the bhoys play though..... and all the fitba banter......, sausage meat and tenants lager...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Think it's the language barrier lol Some truth in that. Some folk find the fairly regular inability of the natives to understand them as frustrating.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensdad Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 That was tongue in cheek to wedgiedave as I really struggle to understand him when he's talking sometimes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 That was tongue in cheek to wedgiedave as I really struggle to understand him when he's talking sometimes lol Cheeky b@stard!! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 talk slowly Dave! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 talk slowly Dave! lol If I talk slow they will think I'm English!! then I will be called all the Pommie b@stards under the sun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 If I talk slow they will think I'm English!! then I will be called all the Pommie b@stards under the sun!! lol you could be called worse probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 lol you could be called worse probably Well an Aussie girl called me an Irish pr1ck when she tried to jump in front of me in the taxi queue and I wouldn't let her! I better not type what my reply to her was on here though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 lol why is it people abroad think we' 're anything but Scottish.. I've been called English, German, Dutch and God knows what else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensdad Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Cause you don't speak the queens English Stacey that why my dear. Thought you'd like that one dave haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle13 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 After 25yrs I'm still made to feel like a foreigner here. Almost daily I am reminded like a wet towel slapped across my face, by someone stating the obvious "oh you have an accent, are you Scottish? from whereabout? my cousins stepfathers 1st wifes mother is from there". Might seem a paltry whinge and childish but imagine going out somewhere and avoiding speaking just so I dont have to engage in the conversation for the 10th million time. :arghh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger2shirts Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Lots of Scotch here and they seem to like it on the Sunshine Coast - come on in the waters lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensdad Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Totally understand how you feel when I lived in the north west of England my southern accent stood out a mile and I lost count of the number of times I was asked if I was a cockney! Luckily it's not like that for me here in Perth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I like playing "guess the accent" I'm rubbish at it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 That was tongue in cheek to wedgiedave as I really struggle to understand him when he's talking sometimes lol I gathered it was as such..but also have met Scottish folk who felt this was an issue towards intergration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Not many Scots lose their accents even after many years- personally I love Scottish accents and would be proud to have one. My original one was sarf London so it fairly easily merged into oz, though if I am with someone from the sarf it comes back a bit ( so's they can understand?) My husband is from Manchester and after nearly 40 years he sounds like he comes from---- Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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