Honeybun Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Me and my OH were on our way to great ocean road for the New Years weekend and OH sped to 130kmph for a short distance just to check the TCS system which was lighting up on the console. Cop car follows n issues a ticket for $528 and 6 demerit points however ( as I mentioned complicated) OH has an Indian licence as we have been here for less than 6 months yet. The officer was friendly and said that he has no choice but to issue the ticket even though he knows it was for a short distance to check the system. However he said as OH has Indian licence he can choose not to pay and then a notice will be sent to the Indian address mentioned on the licence and as it is not linked to the passport it should not make a difference to him. He did mention that when OH applies for vic licence they may or may not have details of this ticket and accordingly payment will have to be made if vic roads pick it up. As we were just coming out of that shock and had not even travelled another 10kms we were stopped by another cop car saying we didn't stop at a stop sign "completely". Another $282 fined. ( Our ignorance of country road driving). The previous cop was following us on that road so he stopped and spoke to the 2nd officer and explained the situation however the ticket was handed to us without telling us what we should do in regards to the payment. The questions in our minds are: 1. OH wants to apply for vic licence and does not know if he should show his Indian licence to vic roads. 2. Will this ticket be pulled up for any records with vic roads for anything like renewing our Rego or insurance?? Any information will be highly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I'm surprised a police officer has told you how to cheat the system. Are you on a temp visa or PR? If temp you don't need to change the license over. What address did the officer take down? The 2nd incident sounds rather petty of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I am not sure what you want to know? Are you trying to see how you can dodge paying the fees? Frankly I have little sympathy for somebody who drives at 130km and doens't obey stop signs. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybun Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 I'm surprised a police officer has told you how to cheat the system. Are you on a temp visa or PR? If temp you don't need to change the license over. What address did the officer take down? The 2nd incident sounds rather petty of them. We are on PR.. The officer took down the Indian address mentioned on the licence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybun Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 I am not sure what you want to know? Are you trying to see how you can dodge paying the fees? Frankly I have little sympathy for somebody who drives at 130km and doens't obey stop signs. Sorry. Rupert, i hope you read the whole story.. We weren't speeding but just checking the TCS on a open and empty country road.. And that's why the officer told us what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicF Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Rupert, i hope you read the whole story.. We weren't speeding but just checking the TCS on a open and empty country road.. And that's why the officer told us what he did. Hmm... I assume the road you were on had a speed limit. I suspect the speed limit was less than 130kpm. You were doing 130kpm. In what way is that not speeding? Doesn't matter why you were doing it, if you drive at a speed that is more than the limit then you are speeding. You were lucky than the cop that stopped you was understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Rupert, i hope you read the whole story.. We weren't speeding but just checking the TCS on a open and empty country road.. And that's why the officer told us what he did. Yes but you were still speeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 We are on PR.. The officer took down the Indian address mentioned on the licence.. You have no choice then but to change the license, pay the fine and take the points, be warned speeding is a big no over here. In Melbourne they park in old cars at the side of the road and you don't know it's a speed trap until you get the ticket through the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckleface Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 At the end of the day your OH broke the law twice and was caught and fined. If you don't pay the fines and get caught out I suppose you will complain about that as well. Life might be easier if your OH simply learned, and then followed, the road rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I was under the impression if on PR you HAD to exchange your licence within 3 months. I hope you dont get another fine for not doing so. As the others have said speeding is speeding no matter the reason and unfortunately you got caught,, in future pay a garage to test it on a rolling road it will be cheaper. As for the Stop sign, i feel for you, i know a few people caught out by this one,, the rule is something silly like ' you have to have all 4 wheels staionary for x amount of seconds'. Id just exchange my licence , pay up and put it down to experience, chances are when your O/H does, the 6 points will be waiting for him though. Cal x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I was under the impression if on PR you HAD to exchange your licence within 3 months. I hope you dont get another fine for not doing so. As the others have said speeding is speeding no matter the reason and unfortunately you got caught,, in future pay a garage to test it on a rolling road it will be cheaper. As for the Stop sign, i feel for you, i know a few people caught out by this one,, the rule is something silly like ' you have to have all 4 wheels staionary for x amount of seconds'. Id just exchange my licence , pay up and put it down to experience, chances are when your O/H does, the 6 points will be waiting for him though. Cal x I think it's 6 months in Victoria Cal. To the OP you may find that your OH needs to take a driving test or knowledge test etc., because I don't think India is one of the countries that driver experience is recognised http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Licences/NewToVictoria/OverseasDriversLicences.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 if you are speeding then tough, you break the law you pay the fines. Not sure with Vic, but on a PR in NSW you have 3 months to get your license. Im on a 457 so have to apply after 6 months but as i bought a car then RTA have my license details on file to get my reference number for the Rego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Just pay it. No matter the reasons, your other half broke the law. Accept it and take responsibility for bad decisions. The stop sign, it should be obvious even if you didn't learn to drive here. The hint is in the sign STOP. Not slow down, but stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 if you are speeding then tough, you break the law you pay the fines. Not sure with Vic, but on a PR in NSW you have 3 months to get your license. Im on a 457 so have to apply after 6 months but as i bought a car then RTA have my license details on file to get my reference number for the Rego. No you don't. No need to get a NSW licence at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 130 is speeding no matter what you were doing, just have to pay up. I have had two speeding tickets recently for five km over the speed limit and I did not mean to speed either just had to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Could be a lot worse. could have been killed doing that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAK Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 If you see a stop sign it means stop! It is not a give way sign - it is a stop sign - no matter what the circumstances and no matter how clear you think the road may be! They put stop signs up for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noworriesmate Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Note to self - if my spouse makes a mistake don't post about it on PIO NWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 No you don't. No need to get a NSW licence at all Different case, but when I moved from the NT to WA I was allowed three months to change my licence and registration plates. If I hadn't then I would have been in trouble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Note to self - if my spouse makes a mistake don't post about it on PIO NWM My spouse would know exactly what to expect from me if he made either of those mistakes, and if it was costing us money it wouldn't be a positive response. If anything I would be on here to vent about how annoyed I was with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Unfortunately alot of deaths occur on rural roads,due to the fact people assume they can put their foot down and all will be ok?I lost count how many people got wrapped around gum trees through speeding/reckless driving,and its too easy to avoid it OP! It does'nt matter the reasons for speeding,there is no excuse.As for stopping?You'd also be surprised how many deaths occur when people don't actually stop.As Parleycross said,be thankful you're still alive,and use this as a lesson for the future.People can get so angry when they commit a driving offense.(not saying you are)but the reality is,the cops are there to protect you and everyone else.They're just doing their jobs.Its our job to drive safely and obey the road rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybun Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 I agree with with what everyone is saying on the forum and me and my OH respect the law of the land and have never intended to break any rules or regulations which have been made keeping in mind the safety of the people. over speeding or not stopping was done erroneously and he agrees to his mistake. There was no intention to argue with that. We just wanted to know the repercussions of what the officer had told us. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I agree with with what everyone is saying on the forum and me and my OH respect the law of the land and have never intended to break any rules or regulations which have been made keeping in mind the safety of the people. over speeding or not stopping was done erroneously and he agrees to his mistake. There was no intention to argue with that. We just wanted to know the repercussions of what the officer had told us. That's all. Was it a car registered in his or your name? I believe as his licence is from India he will have to take the full test rather than just exchange his licence. If this is the case it probably wouldn't be linked, but if the car is registered in his name it might not be that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I think you are probably just going to have to go ahead and find out. Ali posted a link for you regarding getting an Aus DL. It looks like your OH needs to sit a full driving test to gain an Aus licence. It will also stand him in good stead with regards to learning about road rules and so on in Aus. What happens after that, who knows. It appears he will have to show his Indian driving licence when he sits an Aus driving test. So I think the cat is going to be out of the bag. Evidence of identity On the day of your appointment you need to bring original evidence of identity documents. You must have: your overseas licence and an English translation one primary evidence document (eg. Australian birth certificate or passport) one secondary evidence document with your Victorian address (eg. credit/account card, phone bill, bank statement) evidence of Victorian address if not included on secondary evidence document (eg phone bill, bank statement) One of these documents must have your signature on it. It is your responsibility to provide evidence of the status of your licence. You are required to provide your overseas licence. If your overseas licence is not available, or in some circumstances upon VicRoads' request, you can provide a letter from either: the issuing country’s driver licensing authority confirming your licence details, or the issuing country's consul in Australia where the consul has verified your licence details with the issuing country’s licensing authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ptp113 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Me and my OH were on our way to great ocean road for the New Years weekend and OH sped to 130kmph for a short distance just to check the TCS system which was lighting up on the console. Cop car follows n issues a ticket for $528 and 6 demerit points however ( as I mentioned complicated) OH has an Indian licence as we have been here for less than 6 months yet. The officer was friendly and said that he has no choice but to issue the ticket even though he knows it was for a short distance to check the system. However he said as OH has Indian licence he can choose not to pay and then a notice will be sent to the Indian address mentioned on the licence and as it is not linked to the passport it should not make a difference to him. He did mention that when OH applies for vic licence they may or may not have details of this ticket and accordingly payment will have to be made if vic roads pick it up. As we were just coming out of that shock and had not even travelled another 10kms we were stopped by another cop car saying we didn't stop at a stop sign "completely". Another $282 fined. ( Our ignorance of country road driving). The previous cop was following us on that road so he stopped and spoke to the 2nd officer and explained the situation however the ticket was handed to us without telling us what we should do in regards to the payment. The questions in our minds are: 1. OH wants to apply for vic licence and does not know if he should show his Indian licence to vic roads. 2. Will this ticket be pulled up for any records with vic roads for anything like renewing our Rego or insurance?? Any information will be highly appreciated. Speeding and not stopping at a Stop sign? Do you not think the road rules here apply to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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