ck128 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi all, Looking for some advice on reapplying for a 189. Have just received a refusal notice for my original application as my skills assessment was dated after the date my visa invite (12 days!). I thought I had a valid skills assessment at the time of my EOI, but later realized Engineers Australia had omitted a year and a half worth of experience due to lack of evidence which put me below the required 3 years. I submitted further evidence to Engineers Australia to rectify this. My question is, seeing as how I unwittingly gave false information in my expression of interest, will this have on a negative impact on a new application. I have just submitted a new EOI. Absolutely gutted, thought we were in! Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Expensive mistake but I shouldn't think you'll have a problem resubmitting as long as it was obvious it was a genuine mistake and not deliberate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebloggs Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 When you were refused did they mention anything about an exclusion from applying for a further visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JelenaNS Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi, Firstly I would like to apology if I make mistakes in English, as I am from non English background, and coming from a third -world-Europian country will probably say something wrongly, but you will understand me ... I empathy with you, as wee also made an innocent mistake in our EOI, but our CO did not ask for more evidence, and we had our medicals last week.I know that we made a slightly mistake,and I am interested if you got an instant refusal,or after medical and Pol. cert.?Just to know what wee can expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capetosydney Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I assume medicals were requested by your CO.If so, than I think you should be OK, they would have not asked for medicals if something was wrong on your application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capetosydney Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi all,Looking for some advice on reapplying for a 189. Have just received a refusal notice for my original application as my skills assessment was dated after the date my visa invite (12 days!). I thought I had a valid skills assessment at the time of my EOI, but later realized Engineers Australia had omitted a year and a half worth of experience due to lack of evidence which put me below the required 3 years. I submitted further evidence to Engineers Australia to rectify this. My question is, seeing as how I unwittingly gave false information in my expression of interest, will this have on a negative impact on a new application. I have just submitted a new EOI. Absolutely gutted, thought we were in! Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! Should be OK mate, honest but costly mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JelenaNS Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I assume medicals were requested by your CO.If so, than I think you should be OK, they would have not asked for medicals if something was wrong on your application. yes,medicals were requested by CO, so I assumed the same, that everything else is OK.Thank you for quick answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capetosydney Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 yes,medicals were requested by CO, so I assumed the same, that everything else is OK.Thank you for quick answer. Should be OK, you'll get your visa in next few weeks. Sretno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Your CO will usually give you an option to withdraw application if you do not meet requirements. But yes they will still ask for medicals if they are going to refuse, if you didnt withdraw application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaark Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi..3 yrs ban for giving false info on EOI..Good luck!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck128 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi..3 yrs ban for giving false info on EOI..Good luck!!! Thanks for all the replies folks. No mention of anything in relation to reapplying on my refusal letter. Gtaark, can you expand on your experience please. When were you informed if your ban and what was the false information you supplied. Jelena, i had my medical requested at the same time as my request for information. The fact that you've been asked for more evidence sounds positive. Mine was a flat refusal, no request for further evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebloggs Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I can intentionally embellish my claims on my EOI to increase my points score and likelihood of getting an invitation.There are some serious potential risks in providing false and misleading information in your EOI. If you are invited to apply for a visa, the information in your EOI will be used as part of your visa application. You will then need to confirm your claims and submit evidence with your application. If you provide false or misleading information on your EOI and receive an invitation based on this information, your application may be refused. If your visa application is refused you will lose your visa application charge and may also be subject to a bar which prevents the grant of a further visa. Bar is usually 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I guess the key word there is MAY. Presumably they would tell you if they've banned you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JelenaNS Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I guess the key word there is MAY. Presumably they would tell you if they've banned you. I agree. 3 year ban applies probably to someone who on purpose gave false , misleading information...It was obviously an unintentional mistake.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Would it be worth using an Agent this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi..3 yrs ban for giving false info on EOI..Good luck!!! Even if that is true, the OP quite clearly did not give any false information. They were merely premature in lodging an applications before having the skils assessment completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njs Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hi I really need help at this stge. I am in the same situation and it was an honest mistake again so my visa got refused. I would like to know whether you were able to re apply straight away and what was the consequence of everything. please tell me your story so that I can figure out what to do next. Have 10days to do it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck128 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hey njs. reapplied for visa shortly after my refusal with the exact same evidence and got my grant in about 2 months. Had to repay the fee which was a bit of a pain but now in oz and it was all worth it! good luck with your application! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njs Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hey njs. reapplied for visa shortly after my refusal with the exact same evidence and got my grant in about 2 months. Had to repay the fee which was a bit of a pain but now in oz and it was all worth it! good luck with your application! Hi did you have to go offshore for it because of the clause 48 that says you cannot re apply if you do not have a substantive visa. We were on a bridging visa linked to the skilled application. So we are not sure if we have to go offshore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hi did you have to go offshore for it because of the clause 48 that says you cannot re apply if you do not have a substantive visa. We were on a bridging visa linked to the skilled application. So we are not sure if we have to go offshore. You need some urgent assistance, you could be effectively without a visa now. I would consult a migration agent without delay. I don't know that the previous poster was onshore, but I haven't re read the thread. By the way better to start your own thread than resurrect an old one, people can get distracted by earlier threads and might even miss your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njs Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 You need some urgent assistance, you could be effectively without a visa now. I would consult a migration agent without delay. I don't know that the previous poster was onshore, but I haven't re read the thread. By the way better to start your own thread than resurrect an old one, people can get distracted by earlier threads and might even miss your posts. Hi Rupert, thanks for your concern. We are allowed to be here for another 28days after that as we have the right to review it. I will start a new thread bt just wanted to question a familiar case and see what happened! We have consulted migration agents now and the best thing they said is to go offshore and re do everything thats why I wanted to see what happened. Thanls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Hi Rupert, thanks for your concern. We are allowed to be here for another 28days after that as we have the right to review it. I will start a new thread bt just wanted to question a familiar case and see what happened! We have consulted migration agents now and the best thing they said is to go offshore and re do everything thats why I wanted to see what happened. Thanls Yes, but I don't think the other case was as complex as yours, as they did not mention applying on shore and being on bridging visa etc. I think they just applied too soon. If you did apply before you had a skills assessment, then reviewing it won't change anything, it will definitely be a decline. Edited October 25, 2013 by Rupert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njs Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yes, but I don't think the other case was as complex as yours, as they did not mention applying on shore and being on bridging visa etc. I think they just applied too soon. If you did apply before you had a skills assessment, then reviewing it won't change anything, it will definitely be a decline. Hi usually a 189 is an onshore visa. So he would have been onshore and his case would have been the same. Just asking him if he had to go offshore but thanks rupert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hi usually a 189 is an onshore visa. So he would have been onshore and his case would have been the same. Just asking him if he had to go offshore but thanks rupert. No a 189 is not an onshore visa, I expect most people are offshore when they apply for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 No a 189 is not an onshore visa, I expect most people are offshore when they apply for it. +1 There are no onshore/offshore visas any more. From these forums there are FAR, FAR, FAR more people applying offshore. Not sure where you got that idea from njs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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