Guest Greenmnk5 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hi, me and my family are currently contemplating moving to Perth however I am really keen to complete my primary PGCE with QTS. I currently have a PGCE post 16 qualification which enables me to teach secondary upwards but I am really keen to retrain. I suppose the question is where is the best place to study in Perth and what are the course requirements, length of course and cost. If anyone can help with pointing me in the right direction or knows the answers please yell? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnAli Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hi, me and my family are currently contemplating moving to Perth however I am really keen to complete my primary PGCE with QTS. I currently have a PGCE post 16 qualification which enables me to teach secondary upwards but I am really keen to retrain. I suppose the question is where is the best place to study in Perth and what are the course requirements, length of course and cost. If anyone can help with pointing me in the right direction or knows the answers please yell? Thanks You can do 1 year conversion to primary in Perth it costs $7000, that is what I am thinking of doing, the positive you have an Australian quali, I have read on here that some teachers have received negative skills assessments because they say our PGCEs are not theory based !!! Have they ever sat through a 3 hour lecture on pegagogy !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greenmnk5 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Too funny! Any idea if the conversion course would ever be recognised in UK? And vice versa if I did course in uk is it recognised in aus or would I still have to do conversion? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnAli Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I have no idea I just know they love their own quali's . It would seem logical that they are transferable. I have not looked into in a great amount of depth as I am thinking about leaving teaching all together as I just want to go to work come home not have planning and marking to do or go through those horrid emotions when you find out a child has been harmed or they are starving because any money has been spent on ale !!! Too funny! Any idea if the conversion course would ever be recognised in UK? And vice versa if I did course in uk is it recognised in aus or would I still have to do conversion? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositivePixie Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Too funny! Any idea if the conversion course would ever be recognised in UK? And vice versa if I did course in uk is it recognised in aus or would I still have to do conversion? Thanks Unfortunately you probably wouldn't be able to do another PGCE in the UK - you would have to fund it yourself if you were allowed on any course, however convincing a uni to let you on the course wouldn't happen - Primary is massively oversubscribed still, so getting on the course wouldn't happen due to already having done a PGCE. In theory it would be recognised in Aus to teach primary, as long as it was a university based PGCE, NOT a SCITT, GTP or any other kind of PGCE (ie a Post Graduate Certificate of Education). But like I say, you wouldn't be able to get on a course, so that's not a goer anyway. There isn't any other kind of 'conversion' course in the UK - there used to be a Primary Teaching thing, a bit like a refresher course, however they stopped those a few years back now. The Australian course would be recognised in the UK, however it wouldn't need to be given the rules in the UK - in England and Wales you can teach whatever you want, to whomever you want, with or without any qualifications at all (you just get paid as an unqualified teacher if you don't have QTS), so if you did some Primary teaching in Australia and you then went back to the UK you probably could teach in Primary as a qualified teacher (as you are on the Qualified Teacher MPS pay scale), the only issue being that there aren't any jobs in primary so you would have to be a) kick a** to get a job back there and b) bottom of the payscale (or in a really dodgy area and school, and still bottom of the pay scale). The only issue would be teaching in Scotland, as they require you to either have a qualification in that area, or have been teaching in that area for 5 years to be able to teach it there, so you would have to contact the Scottish TRB and ask them if the exact course from Aus would be allowable. (Sorry, don't know which system N.I follow, I have been told in passing it is the same as England and Wales, but I don't actually know ) HTH a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositivePixie Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I have read on here that some teachers have received negative skills assessments because they say our PGCEs are not theory based !!! Have they ever sat through a 3 hour lecture on pegagogy !!! This is because it's not a PGCE (Post Graduate Certificate of Education), which is equal to a fourth year at uni - Aussie teachers have to do 4 years at uni you see, rather than the 3 years that is standard in the UK - rather some people have done either the GTP, or a SCITT or a PGDE or another work based route, rather than a university based route. In reality the work based and uni based route might be mighty similar, but on paper its a whole different ball game. A bit like the fact my Husband only has an HND for his 4 years at college, but the year after he did the course, exactly the same course gave everyone who did it a BA (Hons), for exactly the same work, lectures, essays and so on. Its just the way paperwork works unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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