Guest The Pom Queen Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 UP to 325 illegal immigrants suspected of overstaying their visas are being reported each week via a special "dob-in-line" set up to weed out unlawful non-citizens. As the federal government prepares to crack down on the estimated 100,000 illegal workers residing in Australia, it can be revealed that almost 17,000 calls have been made to the immigration dob-in line over the past year by concerned Australians. Anyone from labourers working illegally on job sites to possible terrorists are being reported by the community. The government is urging people to use the dob-in line to report anyone they suspect of breaching migration laws. People smuggling, fake marriages and businesses hiring people to work illegally are also on the list of activities authorities are asking Australians to call them about. Over the last year 15,477 unlawful non-citizens were "located" in the community by immigration officers but it is not known how many of these ultimately were expelled from Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Only in Australia (or the US).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 UP to 325 illegal immigrants suspected of overstaying their visas are being reported each week via a special "dob-in-line" set up to weed out unlawful non-citizens. As the federal government prepares to crack down on the estimated 100,000 illegal workers residing in Australia, it can be revealed that almost 17,000 calls have been made to the immigration dob-in line over the past year by concerned Australians. Anyone from labourers working illegally on job sites to possible terrorists are being reported by the community. The government is urging people to use the dob-in line to report anyone they suspect of breaching migration laws. People smuggling, fake marriages and businesses hiring people to work illegally are also on the list of activities authorities are asking Australians to call them about. Over the last year 15,477 unlawful non-citizens were "located" in the community by immigration officers but it is not known how many of these ultimately were expelled from Australia. Thats the thing, it's all well and good finding them but are they being deported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shell15 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Dob-In-Line... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Loads more than is being reported IMO they don't deport them when they find them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Oh we're good at dobbing over here- litter, cigarette butts, bad drivers- we make an art of it. Maybe all those Nazis that hid over here after the war bred up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger2shirts Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I believe most illegals here are actually UK students who have over stayed their visa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Thats the thing, it's all well and good finding them but are they being deported? Sorry to be contrary (not really) but IMO there is something rather mean and unsavoury in the premise of a 'dob-in line'. To me it just sounds like a good way of nurturing a culture of suspicion re foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisme Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The estimated number of people who have overstayed their visas and are in Australia at any one time was about 53 900 as at 30 June 2010. The number of overstayers equates to about 0.02 per cent of Australia's population. Yes they are sent home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Sorry to be contrary (not really) but IMO there is something rather mean and unsavoury in the premise of a 'dob-in line'. To me it just sounds like a good way of nurturing a culture of suspicion re foreigners. Whats your comment got to do with my post? crime stoppers, dob in a dumper, dob in an illegal. There a phone numbers everywhere for you to ring if you suspect something isn't right. People can make the choice if they want to participate/ring the number. there is no nurturing about it, it's about people who can see others doing the wrong thing and wanting to do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Whats your comment got to do with my post? crime stoppers, dob in a dumper, dob in an illegal. There a phone numbers everywhere for you to ring if you suspect something isn't right. People can make the choice if they want to participate/ring the number. there is no nurturing about it, it's about people who can see others doing the wrong thing and wanting to do something about it. AKA divide and conquer. Big difference between ringing up crimestoppers re an armed robbery and ringing a dob in line about 'illegals'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckleface Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Sorry to be contrary (not really) but IMO there is something rather mean and unsavoury in the premise of a 'dob-in line'. To me it just sounds like a good way of nurturing a culture of suspicion re foreigners. Australia has lots of hotlines - even some for injured wildlife. This one is just another one. It makes it easy for people to contact the right authority for whatever the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Unfortunate as it is they are in Australia illegally. They are paying people smugglers huge sums of money for the trip to Australia in dangerous vessels. They are hardly asylum seekers if they are coming from Sri Lanka or Iran - having traveled through numerous 'safe' countries to get to Australia. Is good to see Australia tax payers dollars being used for some good. This would never happen in the UK and look what a haven for illegal immigrants the UK has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckleface Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 AKA divide and conquer. Big difference between ringing up crimestoppers re an armed robbery and ringing a dob in line about 'illegals'. You do see the similarities between crime and illegal don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 You do see the similarities between crime and illegal don't you. No I don't. Crime is crime, being an illegal immigrant does not mean being a criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 AKA divide and conquer. Big difference between ringing up crimestoppers re an armed robbery and ringing a dob in line about 'illegals'. Of course it's a big difference one offence harms people there and then, whilst the other doesn't necessarily have so much of an immediate effect but combined with everyone else thats doing it it obvioulsy put strains on certain things. There is also a big difference between someone going to Australia legally or illegally. There is a right way and a wrong way. Just the same as obtaining money/goods via robbery or by legitimate means. We obviously have different opinions, mine are that if someone wants to 'dob' someone in for doing something wrong then let them, it's their choice. It doesn't breed anything.......you on the other hand seem to be more worried about how others are treated that are doing the wrong thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisme Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The amount of 'Boat people' is nothing compared to the overstayers, one entered Australia by the front door, the other entered through the back door. Both are here illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freckleface Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 No I don't. Crime is crime, being an illegal immigrant does not mean being a criminal. Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 No I don't. Crime is crime, being an illegal immigrant does not mean being a criminal. Are there not laws with regard to entering Australia? Immigration Law? I was taught that if you broke the law you have comitted a crime....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 If these people overstay on their visa they are in Australia illegally. They should know better and not expect to be treated with open arms if they are abusing the immigration system. For them it will be easy to deport as they will have their personal details. The boat people in my opinion should be put onto floating barges off christmas island, they will not have technically landed on Australian soil then. In a world of increasing population Australia does not have the resources to be the dumping ground of the worlds flotsam. Perhaps there should be a tax option for people that are in favour of refugees so they can pay higher taxes to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Only in Australia (or the US).... It's amazing what you can find out with a computer and access to the internet.... http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/contact/report-crime/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 It's amazing what you can find out with a computer and access to the internet.... http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/contact/report-crime/ OK point taken, that'll be a tory initiative I presume. That will be very popular with the neo-conservatives. Simple question. How is people smuggling classed in the same way as outstaying your visa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 OK point taken, that'll be a tory initiative I presume. That will be very popular with the neo conservatists Simple question. How is people smuggling classed in the same way as outstaying your visa? As opposed to the labour scheme of flooding the country with illegal immigrants to punish the conservatives and get new votes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 It's amazing what you can find out with a computer and access to the internet.... http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/contact/report-crime/ I was going to point this out as I know its been around for a while, but wasn't going to start another Aus v UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 OK point taken, that'll be a tory initiative I presume. That will be very popular with the neo conservatists Simple question. How is people smuggling classed in the same way as outstaying your visa? The people that end up/stay in the country are both illegal immigrants. Whats so wrong with 'dobbing' someone in that has done something wrong anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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