Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Anyone used the above website...? I have just been given some really interesting information that could potentially change our lives in the nest year... I have been advised to use the migration system by getting my husband a job out there and moving on a working holiday visa, then converting it to a perm visa? Also I was due to go to college here in England in sept to do an access course that will hopefully enable me to go to uni to become a midwife by 2015, however I have now been advised against this and to try and get to Australia ASAP and go into a nursing programme out there? Anyone got any help or advice on the above? My husband is nearly 29 so we would need to go ASAP on the working holiday visa Many thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitingawhile Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Anyone used the above website...? I have just been given some really interesting information that could potentially change our lives in the nest year... I have been advised to use the migration system by getting my husband a job out there and moving on a working holiday visa, then converting it to a perm visa? Also I was due to go to college here in England in sept to do an access course that will hopefully enable me to go to uni to become a midwife by 2015, however I have now been advised against this and to try and get to Australia ASAP and go into a nursing programme out there? Anyone got any help or advice on the above? My husband is nearly 29 so we would need to go ASAP on the working holiday visa Many thanks in advance think you may need to ask people to pm (personal message) you for the web site name and for this to happen you need to have posted so many times. I dont know much about working holiday visas - dont know if you can take children with you if you have any either- why do they think a temp visa is the best way to go with a WHV- if you were to study over there without a perm visa it would cost you international student fees wouldn't it? these visas are great as an adventure type experience but if you are a family unit you may want more stability! welcome to the site by the way and hope you find the info you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 You can not take children on a Working Holiday Visa - if you have children you must apply for your WHV by Paper Application. No Dependents can enter Australia while a parent is on a WHV. What is your Husbands occupation?? You should run your case past a MARA Registered agent - if the above company is the one I think it is - do a quick google search for reviews. Good agents - Go matilda - Visa Bureau - Ian Harrop/Overseas Emigration. Studying in Australia - will be very expensive - if you have a place starting in September - I would start it. Nurses/Midwifes - usually find it easier to get to Australia - By sponsorship or GSM "If you would like a dependent child to join you in Australia you must apply for a different visa such as a Tourist visa.If you have dependent children who will not accompany you at any time you must apply for a Working Holiday visa using the paper application. You are not able to apply online". http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/eligibility-first.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The website is thinking Australia The guy I spoke to said we could take children on the visa recommended. He also said its easier to do the WHV route and convert than it is to do it through sponsorship etc. My hubby is a qualified lift engineer/ tester and is now working higher up as a project manager. We could get in on his credits. I would really like to move in the next 5 years as we will soon run out of time, so if my studying has to wait them so be it, as my youngest doesn't go to school full time for nearly 3 years, I could wait until then and if we had moved and converted our visa then I can study? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Omg this is ridiculous! Lol! How about I put (name removed by mod) Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest36187 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The fact that the website is starred out should tell you all you need to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitingawhile Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Omg this is ridiculous! Lol! How about I put (name removed by mod) Does that help? it is easier to do it through sponsorship but sponsorship can be hard to get unless you are in a desirable occupation such as nursing!!!!! really think you need to take advice as suggested- a mara registered agent is one which is accredited you have a hard won place on training programme and as long as you do your research you will be fine - its tempting to take someones advice but some agents are not as reputable as the ones recommended on this site and have been known to just take loads of money and then blame the client- i have had advice from Ian Harrops service you can google him - i have friends who have used this service and would confirm they are extremely good - i got a free 20 mins consultation with them at the end of which she advised i should go for it on my own as there was nothing i needed help with and it would be unfair to charge me and take my money! Go matilda are equally as well thought of and will give you highly skilled advice i don't know if they too have a free consultancy at the start as I have not used them! the desire to get to Oz can be so strong but dont be tempted to try and take what may seem the easiest route - the best way in is to do what you planned and get a skilled occupation which will get you permanent residency! this will also give you time to explore the states and decide where you want to live- climates and cultures differ across the country Wa is quite isolated and small for instance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest36187 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 When getting oz visas, there is no ASAP!!!! Be prepared or paperwork, hardworking & waiting. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hi there. As Joanne said above, the company name is asterisked out for a reason. Please don't try writing in on the public forum. I would suggest you contact one of the migration agents mentioned by lebourvellac as they all seem to get good feedback from members. I'd certainly be looking to verify with another agent if you are questioning what this current one has told you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The website is ********** The guy I spoke to said we could take children on the visa recommended. He also said its easier to do the WHV route and convert than it is to do it through sponsorship etc. My hubby is a qualified lift engineer/ tester and is now working higher up as a project manager. We could get in on his credits. I would really like to move in the next 5 years as we will soon run out of time, so if my studying has to wait them so be it, as my youngest doesn't go to school full time for nearly 3 years, I could wait until then and if we had moved and converted our visa then I can study? You cannot take children on a WHV. No dependants. There is no getting round this. I think you really need to consult another agent for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Anyone used the above website...? I have just been given some really interesting information that could potentially change our lives in the nest year... I have been advised to use the migration system by getting my husband a job out there and moving on a working holiday visa, then converting it to a perm visa? Also I was due to go to college here in England in sept to do an access course that will hopefully enable me to go to uni to become a midwife by 2015, however I have now been advised against this and to try and get to Australia ASAP and go into a nursing programme out there? Anyone got any help or advice on the above? My husband is nearly 29 so we would need to go ASAP on the working holiday visa Many thanks in advance I do not know what company you might be talking about but the plan sounds truly terrible. Getting a job, going on a WHV and "converting" to PR...? I barely know where to start with the pitfalls to this plan. One of the biggest being you CANNOT travel on a WHV and be accompanied at any point by your children. If either you or your OH has a skill in demand then there is the skilled migrant route, it isn't quick and isn't always easy, but quickest and easiest visa does not equal best visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Ok th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Also you can NOT convert a WHV to a PR visa - either you need to either have a company to sponsor you for a visa, either a 457 TR visa, or a PR visa - which may still need a skills assessment. Getting sponsorship is not as easy as it sounds. Most employers prefer to sponsor on 457 TR visa as its cheaper and faster. But as its TR, you may have to pay school fees, no access to any childcare help, and International Student fees. Also if you lose or leave your job you have 28 days to find a new sponsor or leave to country. A better option would be to apply through GSM. http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/ Lift machanic is on SOL 1 - and it is also on WA State Migration Plan - (didnt look at any others). From what you have posted a more sutible visa for your situation would be the 190 State Nomination Visa (or 189), Your OH would need a Skills assessment and may be IELTS(for extra points). SKills assessment can take some time. But once visa is granted you have 12 months from the date of medicals or PCC to make first entry to Australia to validate your visas. Your visa is valid for 5 years at date of grant. Therefore if you got this visa - when you had finished your studies you could move over straight away. You have been given very bad advice. I just hope you have not paid this company any money - if you have I would be trying to claim it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Ok thanks for all your help.I just wrote a really long response however typical technology has defied me and logged meOut!So to cut it short...Can anyone at all spell it out in simple english exactly what we should do and where we should start?Oh has a skill in demand and is also working higher up in that profession, his company is global so could potentially apply internally and receive sponsorship that way, I have done an assessment and we would get in on his points alone.However what do you start with??Looking for a job? Applying for a skilled visa??Or just sit and wait until I have finished my training?I know visas take ages so just wondered if that's something we should start looking at doing now for the future?I have read and researched on this topic but I have such confusing and conflicting information, it's proving difficult to get it straight?Thanks again everyone it really is appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The fact that the website is starred out should tell you all you need to know! Sorry Joanne I am brand new to this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Also you can NOT convert a WHV to a PR visa - either you need to either have a company to sponsor you for a visa, either a 457 TR visa, or a PR visa - which may still need a skills assessment. Getting sponsorship is not as easy as it sounds. Most employers prefer to sponsor on 457 TR visa as its cheaper and faster. But as its TR, you may have to pay school fees, no access to any childcare help, and International Student fees. Also if you lose or leave your job you have 28 days to find a new sponsor or leave to country. A better option would be to apply through GSM. http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/ Lift machanic is on SOL 1 - and it is also on WA State Migration Plan - (didnt look at any others). From what you have posted a more sutible visa for your situation would be the 190 State Nomination Visa (or 189), Your OH would need a Skills assessment and may be IELTS(for extra points). SKills assessment can take some time. But once visa is granted you have 12 months from the date of medicals or PCC to make first entry to Australia to validate your visas. Your visa is valid for 5 years at date of grant. Therefore if you got this visa - when you had finished your studies you could move over straight away. You have been given very bad advice. I just hope you have not paid this company any money - if you have I would be trying to claim it back. Its a completely free service that they provide, thank you for your insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Its a completely free service that they provide, thank you for your insight! Speak to another agent - but if moving to Australia is a long term goal - as I stated you could still apply now. Visas can take time but the longest part is waiting for the skills assessment to get back. We were granted 176ss (equivaent to 190) in October - our skills assessment took 4 months - State Sponsorship 3 weeks. Once we lodged our application we had CO in 2 weeks and visa grant 4 weeks after. If you are looking at the Employer Sponsored route - you would need a employer to sponsor you first before you could apply for a visa, but you would be tied to the Employer (if PR visa) for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieF8 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Its a completely free service that they provide, thank you for your insight! Doesnt matter if its free if they are talking bollox.... This is direct from IMMI, anyone telling you any different doesnt know what they are on about...... To be eligible for your first Working Holiday visa, you must meet a number of requirements. [h=2]General requirements[/h]You must: be outside Australia when you apply and, when your visa is granted not have previously entered Australia on a Working Holiday (417) visa not have previously entered Australia on a Work and Holiday (462) visa be aged between 18 and 30 years (inclusive) at the time of applyingImportant: Your age will be determined as the age you are in Australia at the time your application is lodged (Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST) or the Australian Eastern Daylight Savings time (AEDT)). Because of this time difference you are advised not to wait to lodge your application until you are about to turn 31, as the system will take the current date in Australia as your application date. be applying no more than 12 months before you intend to travel to Australia not be accompanied by dependent children at any time during your stay in AustraliaNote: A dependent child is the child, or step-child, of you or your partner who: is not married, engaged to be married, or in a de facto relationship has not turned 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Speak to another agent - but if moving to Australia is a long term goal - as I stated you could still apply now. Visas can take time but the longest part is waiting for the skills assessment to get back. We were granted 176ss (equivaent to 190) in October - our skills assessment took 4 months - State Sponsorship 3 weeks. Once we lodged our application we had CO in 2 weeks and visa grant 4 weeks after. If you are looking at the Employer Sponsored route - you would need a employer to sponsor you first before you could apply for a visa, but you would be tied to the Employer (if PR visa) for 2 years. How much would you say it has cost you to migrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 How much would you say it has cost you to migrate? Too much.... To get our visas without an agent - £3500, My OH skills assessment was with Engineers Australia $600 AUD, but we had extra costs of getting documents translated in to English. IELTS is £125, Visa application £2000, State Sponsorship $200AUD, medicals (2 adult, 1 Child) £700, Police Checks (ACRO)£35 each. We are going over in September to Validate our visas - so cost of a holiday for 2 weeks. My OH has just changed jobs so looking to make the big move in 2015/2016 - before our visas run out in Oct 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Just to clarify...as I am very confused right now :-/ lol £3500 for the whole lot or £3500 PLUS all the extras you mentioned so nearly £8000? (without the stay in sept) The website you gave me has been the most helpful thing I've seen all day so thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 £3500 - the others was a bit of the break down of costs how we got to the £3500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gelybean Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 £3500 - the others was a bit of the break down of costs how we got to the £3500. I thought so! Thanks :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Who ever has advised you, and i think a lot of us know who it is, is a con artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cki2011 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 You can not take children on a Working Holiday Visa - if you have children you must apply for your WHV by Paper Application. No Dependents can enter Australia while a parent is on a WHV. What is your Husbands occupation?? You should run your case past a MARA Registered agent - if the above company is the one I think it is - do a quick google search for reviews. Good agents - Go matilda - Visa Bureau - Ian Harrop/Overseas Emigration. Studying in Australia - will be very expensive - if you have a place starting in September - I would start it. Nurses/Midwifes - usually find it easier to get to Australia - By sponsorship or GSM "If you would like a dependent child to join you in Australia you must apply for a different visa such as a Tourist visa.If you have dependent children who will not accompany you at any time you must apply for a Working Holiday visa using the paper application. You are not able to apply online". http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/eligibility-first.htm Give go matilda a call they will put you on the right track.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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