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A friend of mine at work has just resigned from our company for the second time. He lives in Canberra and Defence have had a freeze on recruitment for a long time. They have quite a few IT projects and have tried putting their own personnel in charge thinking it would save money. They must have realised that it's costing twice as much as the guys in charge might be good at running a squadron of pilots or something but they now very little about IT and dealing with sub-contractors.

 

My friend tells me they have finally bit the bullet and started setting people on contract. He's got one paying $90 an hour for a year, probably be renewed after that. Too good to turn down.

 

Forgot to mention, the first time he resigned was to take up a contract with Dept of Defence in Canberra and work were so desperate to get him back they said to let them know when that contract stopped, which it did about 6 months ago.

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I was wondering how all the previous posters have got on since

 

Developer - Arrived in Perth, March 2011.

Been in solid work as a contractor since May 2011. More work than I know what to do with.

All my colleagues are busy, the business is employing more people in the run up to a big 18/24 month project.

All my IT friends are busy, but a few looking to move.

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Hello. I am very worried about my boyfriend job. I don't want to ruin his career only because we want to live in Australia. He's a web developer, Senior Php Developer here in our country (Romania). Has 8 years of experience and a good job. If I apply for Visa, he will be my partener. I read here some posts about IT jobs in OZ. Some users (web developers/sys admin/ web programmers) from this forum are upset and they want to go back in home contries because they complain that after 5-8 months of searching they didn't find any job.

 

Is so hard to find a job in OZ at IT department ? What salaries offer australian companies ? If someone that really works or has worked in IT / developer can answer me, will be perfect. If a web developer can't find any job in this field, what other job is more easily to find there, for an IT specialist (even if is not so well paid) ?

(we will apply for 190 Visa, sponsored by SA or ACT)

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Melbourne - Server / Technical support since August 2011

Several colleagues have lost jobs - huge numbers applying for anything half decent

I am aware of a lot of outsourcing / cutbacks

Several in the industry believe things are very tough...I have a friend the relocated interstate

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Hi Everyone,

 

I have recently migrated to Sydney, Australia. I am an Australian citizen who grew up many of my years in London. I am starting to look for work as an IT Support Analyst within Sydney. I have 2 years experience working in this field having worked for Swarovski in the last year.

 

Does anyone have any personal contacts / friends / recommendations of people working in IT recruitment?

 

Your help would be much appreciated.

 

Many thanks,

 

Christian


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Hi Friends,

 

I am planning to touch down Sydney in March 1st week. I got 8 years of experience in Presales, Design, Implementation and Administration of Various monitoring tools from CA and Microsoft.

 

Also got 11 months of Australia experience. I want to check with you guys, hows the market for this kind of profile and will the market will be good in March?

 

Also need your suggestions in preparing myself for the HUNT.

 

Do you have any friends/consultancies which you can refer to me.....Thanks in advance guys....

 

Cheers

Prasanna

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sad to see people struggling on the job front. I am an IT professional too with around 8 yrs of experience.

It has been 2 years now since I am in Australia. My expereince is tht inspite of having a good local expereince and a strong technical skill set it is a big struggle to find a job. My employment contract is finishing next month and I am still unable to get any interview calls as yet. I usually pick and apply to only specific jobs that match my skill set, yet I have not received a single call, neither from the recruitment agent nor from the employer.

 

 

I think the primary reason mght be ethinicity. From what I have observed is that it is quite easier for people from english speaking caucasian background to get a job compared to people from African, Mid-Eastern or Indian background.

So for non-caucasian people my suggestion is that try and change your name on the resume to some 'English' name...such as 'Jeff Burrows' or something.

It might give you an edge. If nothing...atleast you're phones will start ringing.

 

Good Luck Folks !! I am too joining the pool of unemployed.


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I think the primary reason mght be ethinicity. From what I have observed is that it is quite easier for people from english speaking caucasian background to get a job compared to people from African, Mid-Eastern or Indian background.

So for non-caucasian people my suggestion is that try and change your name on the resume to some 'English' name...such as 'Jeff Burrows' or something.

 

 

I'd love to jump in and contradict you, but you're probably right. But changing your name won't help, and having a different name on you CV than on your passport is certain not to get you any job, let alone in IT. Maybe a better bet is to use a nickname that everyone calls you by. Then it looks like you're fitting in.

 

But I've got to agree. It's tough at the moment, very tough. Unless you've got a speacialist skill, a good contact, or are just plain lucky.

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I would guess you may be right about the ethnicity. It's obvious your first language is not English by your writing and there is usually a fair amount of writing to do in an IT job, some of it technical. If you can't write good English that would be a drawback.

 

It is an English speaking mainly Caucasian country after all. If I were to re-locate to India or Africa I might have the same problem finding a job there. Looks like you've managed to get contracts to see you through a couple of years so hopefully something will come up. Things are still a bit quite after Christmas.

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It comes down to 3 very simple things:

 

- Unless you are at the top of pack in terms of skill, experience & qualifications, you WON'T be competitive in Melb/Sydney/Bris/Canberra/Perth. There are jobs are in the regional areas, the market is saturated in the big cities (except there is a need for more taxi drivers).

 

- Good English, Good Communication skills are ESSENTIAL for work in Australia, unfortunately many people from Non English Speaking backgrounds (and even quite a few with English speaking backgrounds) don't have this, without this fundamental skill, it will make getting a skilled job in IT very difficult.

 

- IT skills needed in Australia are broader (ie less specialised and you need to be able to do more than one small part of IT) than they seem to be in some other parts of the world, you need to be flexibile and skilled in a range of IT.

 

I still have open positions and am recruiting, BUT you MUST have good communication & customer facing skills, aswell as IT skills. Send me your resume if you think you have got what it takes, see http://www.ategra.com.au/contact-us/news-blog/434-ategra-now-hiring in the regions we simply can't get the staff needed!

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Ironman2 (real name?), where in OZ are you located and what area of IT do you work in?

 

Regards,

Paul.

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I am in Melbourne at the moment and my employment contract is getting over next month. I specialize into Software Testing including manual and automation testing. I have total 8 years of experience including 2 years of local Australian experience.

My English communication skills are also not that bad :sad:

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But changing your name won't help, and having a different name on you CV than on your passport is certain not to get you any job, let alone in IT.

 

I have met some recruitment consultants and name change is one of the things that they suggested to me.

Its beats the hell out of me :no:


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One thing that really helped me was getting a video resume made. Sending that along with job applications makes the recruiter a little less apprehensive. One of the agency told me that if they see a resume with a name that they cannot pronounce they most probably will not call the person. Sad but true. So adding a nickname also helps. Good luck people with the job search.


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All this talk of difficulties finding IT jobs doesn't fill me with confidence for my move next year:(

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With a name change,do they mean an actual change of the entire name or simply a nickname on the resume?

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Swamps.....

 

Its better to stay back where you are. I myself sometimes believe as to why the hell I came into this country. Just because ppl can't pronounce your name you won't get a call, makes no sense to me at all. I believe I deserve to be in a better place than this.

 

 

Slam....

 

I mean a complete name change...e.g if your original first name starts with J and last name starts with B....u could convert that into 'Jeff Burrows'.

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All this talk of difficulties finding IT jobs doesn't fill me with confidence for my move next year:(

 

Depends what you do and where you are. As I've said, plenty of work for me. But I'm not in management or over east.

 

With a name change,do they mean an actual change of the entire name or simply a nickname on the resume?

 

Just having an easy to pronounce first name (or nick name) is a start. Wouldn't need to be Western, as long as it's easy.

 

In a team I work with we have :-

Chinese, Singaporean, Canadian, Indian, European, Australian, South African, Thai, Vietnamese ..

 

But they are all 'Western', and more Australian than me (even though I was born here) as I was in the UK for a long time.

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hi,

can some one guide me about the most in demand IT certifications in Australia?.I am basically an electrical engineer currently working in telecom-sector.but due to jobs issue in telecom field wanted to pursue some IT based certifications so that can secure any job to manage cash flow.I have experience on Sun-Solaris,unix,Oracle,Cisco+Huawei F/w & Switches.

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Hi,

 

I am a 19 year old University student residing in Scotland with intentions to migrate to the east side of Australia upon graduation in May/June 2015. I am studying a Computer Systems and Networks course hoping for a career in Systems Administration (Preferably Linux). When I am ready to move I will have a Beng with honours along with Cisco certification (between Entry and Expert - hoping to progress as much as I can) and Microsoft certifications; MCITP and MCP. I would say I have a very broad knowledge in IT from networking to programming, I can write programs and say I was pretty good at it considering I don't study programming but it's pretty much learning all the time. I have to date tried Visual Basic, C#, Bash, Python, HTML and PHP. Not to brag or be big headed but I would say for my age I am pretty clued up.

 

I was recommend by a fellow student to get a 12 month working visa, he lived in Australia a good few years ago and recommended that this was most likely the best visa for me. I will be moving myself, I have family who live in Brisbane.

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hi,

can some one guide me about the most in demand IT certifications in Australia?.I am basically an electrical engineer currently working in telecom-sector.but due to jobs issue in telecom field wanted to pursue some IT based certifications so that can secure any job to manage cash flow.I have experience on Sun-Solaris,unix,Oracle,Cisco+Huawei F/w & Switches.

 

If you can get any MS qualifications they seem to be liked here.

 

I had to get MS SQL ones to get my contract renewed (even though i was doing the job anyway).

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Hi,

 

I am a 19 year old University student residing in Scotland with intentions to migrate to the east side of Australia upon graduation in May/June 2015. I am studying a Computer Systems and Networks course hoping for a career in Systems Administration (Preferably Linux). When I am ready to move I will have a Beng with honours along with Cisco certification (between Entry and Expert - hoping to progress as much as I can) and Microsoft certifications; MCITP and MCP. I would say I have a very broad knowledge in IT from networking to programming, I can write programs and say I was pretty good at it considering I don't study programming but it's pretty much learning all the time. I have to date tried Visual Basic, C#, Bash, Python, HTML and PHP. Not to brag or be big headed but I would say for my age I am pretty clued up.

 

I was recommend by a fellow student to get a 12 month working visa, he lived in Australia a good few years ago and recommended that this was most likely the best visa for me. I will be moving myself, I have family who live in Brisbane.

 

Sounds like a good idea to go for a WHV in your situation Dave. You sound like you've got some good skills under your belt, wouldn't call it experience yet till you've had a job for a while. If you have family in Bris and you could stay with them for a while you could have a bit of time to look round and then look for jobs. You might even get someone to sponsor you if you want to take the emigration thing further.

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Last year I tried to get a SharePoint technical resource in Brisbane. Ended up paying a consultancy 2K per day to fly a youngster up from Sydney. I know techies sneer at SharePoint - but where there is a shortage there is cash. And if you're technically able but inexperienced you could always try the boutique consultancies who may work you like a dog and charge you out for squillions - but after a couple of years you have solid Oz experience and are on your way to milking it as a contractor!

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Hi Everybody,

 

Newcomer to the forum, so this is my first post.

 

Just been granted State Nomination for Victoria, and I have started my Visa Application.

 

Just looking to get an idea of the current IT Job Market in the Melbourne area.

 

I am a Senior Developer/Solutions Architect with approximately 15 years of experience of the full SDLC. Primarily in the Financial Services Industry. My key areas over the last 5-10 years has been in C#,C++,ASP.NET, Entity Framework, WCF, SQL Server 2005/2008. Can also do Front End Web using HTML and CSS.

 

Is there a demand for these in the Melbourne (or surrounding areas)? How long on average is it taking folk to find a job (contract or full time).

 

Thanks in advance.

Eddie

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Sounds like a good idea to go for a WHV in your situation Dave. You sound like you've got some good skills under your belt, wouldn't call it experience yet till you've had a job for a while. If you have family in Bris and you could stay with them for a while you could have a bit of time to look round and then look for jobs. You might even get someone to sponsor you if you want to take the emigration thing further.

 

I have read that European experience is not really taken into consideration in Oz as it is Asia/Pacific... Personally, do you think that getting some experience alongside of University, most likely over summer or at weekends, could potentially help me securing a job more easy than having no experience at all in Oz? I do have family in Oz but they aren't close family so I will most likely have to rent. I am hoping to go over with ~£6000 which works out to be $10,000 ($1.89 per £1, xe.com) so in the event that I am struggling to find work within the first two quarters of living in Oz I am not in any financial trouble.

 

EDIT: I have just been on the SEEK job web site and there are far more job vacancies in what I would like to do than there are here in the UK.

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