Bungo

No, I don't have a skills assessment I'm afraid. I'm a degree qualified mechanical design engineer with 20+ years experience so maybe I'd pass it OK. I won't mention it and see what happens - I might not even get offered the job!

 

It makes me wonder why they're bothering to interview me if they think that the job has a long term future. I wouldn't employ someone who might not get PR.

 

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Well you you will not get a direct entry permanent visa without a skills assessment. This might be something you should get in the bag, even if this opportunity does not work out, perhaps there will be others and you are really up against the clock.

I don't think many employers think long term these days do they? In any case, they can sponsor you for a 457 visa and then another one after that and again, for as long as they need. It is of no particular interest to the employer whether you are permanent or not, many would prefer to keep you tied to them on the temporary visa.

Thanks.

 

Looks to me like my main issue is finding an employer, but not impossible. What are the issues you're seeing with regards to immigration awarding me a 457?

 

Thanks as ever.

 

DV.

Well finding an employer sponsor is not just a "main issue". It is a complete show stopper for the vast majority of people. Also you have said elsewhere that your occupation is not on the skills lists, so that might be the show stopper VS refers to.

Thank you. Do you think that is something that I could put to them during the interview or wait until a job was offered?

 

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Have you already got a skills assessment? Or if not, do you know how long it would take to obtain one for your occupation? It can be as little as a couple of weeks but on the other hand others take months. You cannot get direct entry without skills assessment - well there are a few exceptions, but they are very specific exceptions.

If you do have your skills assessment in hand, well no harm in asking, the worst that can happen is that they say no. I would ask a little later on, once you have the offer hand or at least know you are preferred candidate. If they do say no, the important thing is for you to decide if you would make this move on a temporary visa, with no guarantees that it would ever go permanent.

Thank you, I agree, I would not want to travel more than 30 mins really each way.

 

Budget is approx $3500 per month, I am not sure I want to pay much more than that.

 

Schools would be a government school.

 

Beach is not important, but close to water would be nice, hence why we were looking at the Rhodes area.

 

Community, family, friendly etc.

 

Really appreciate your feedback and help on all of this!

Rents in Australia are typically quoted per week not per month. So I calculate that you are thinking of something just above $800 per week. This is generally not going to put you in an affluent area, it is quite an average budget for Sydney, some might even say you would struggle to find a nice house for that. I am not familiar with Rhodes and no idea about the length of commute, don't take any notice of driving times on Google though when you look into it, they won't reflect Sydney traffic. If there are trains out there, that would give you a decent idea though.

My other recommendation, don't limit it to one suburb. Sydney suburbs all roll into one, you won't know when one ends and the next starts, it is not like separate towns that you get in the UK. I would focus on broader area and a bunch of suburbs not just one.

Hello,

I am new to blogging but desperate times call for desperate measures.

I am a Nurse in the UK beginning the gruelling application process to fulfil the dream and work down under for a year.

Struggle one is this CV lark. I am very unsure on what to include as I don't know how explicit I need to be. Anyone who has already done this please could you enlighten me.

Also I found a really good site which breaks down the AHPRA form for anyone who is a total novice like me : https://nursesinoz.com/registration/ahpra

I am always rather perplexed when people ask this type of question. A good CV is a good CV. Assume somebody in Australia would like to see the same kind of thing as somebody in the UK would and you won't go far wrong.

Thanks for your reply yeh sorry i meant anmac i already have my skill assesment done and did not need to do the ILETS for that and this is why i was asking because i seen a bit about partner points didnt know what was best for gaining points for the visa application

You have a positive skills assessment outcome? Something must have changed recently in that case as nurses have always had to take IELTS for skills assessment for as long as I can remember.

Anyway as I say, no people do not typically claim partner points. Skills assessments are far harder and generally more expensive than IELTS. I didn't see boilermaker on the SOL either, what code is it?

Hi everyone i need some help and advice me and my husband are about to start applying for skilled permanent residence (subclass 189). I am nurse and he is a boilermaker the visa will be under my profession and i already have my AHPRA assessment complete what i need to know is do i have to sit my ILETS if my husband is on the skilled list as he gives me more points im sure we have 70 all in togeather. My second question is where do i start and what do i have to do to get his profession skill assessed by the trade recognition australia?? I have emailed them but was just wondering if anyone might know on here or been through the same thanks.

 

Mr and mrs galloway

A nurses skills assessment is carried out by ANMAC not APHRA and you will be required to undertake IELTS for that. APHRA are the registration body, you need to be registered with them to work, but it is not part of the visa process.

It is very unusual for people to claim partner points, I could count on one hand the numb of times I have seen anyone do that. Skills assessments can be laborious and expensive and doing two,rather than take an IELTS test is an odd decision. In your case though, you have to take IELTS for skills assessment anyway.

Why not ? We are talking goods and services . A possibility of a free trade agreement is already in the news. Free movement of labour both ways is highly possible.

Says who?

Anyway no, it isn't going to happen.

Thanks so much for this info.... seems like a minefield....

 

Bungo, this is what someone sent us that was organising her AHPRA registration, but now it seems that we should have gone for PR first, and not AHPRA.... We have satisfied AHPRA with our English, but do we now need to do an ielts? Also she has been working as a nurse for over 5 years.

 

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How many years of work experience does your wife have? And how much post degree? If she has eight years experience then she would get 15 points for work and she could aim to get the 60 points as per my earlier post.

To that table you have posted I would make two comments. Firstly it is not necessary to gain employment in regional Australia to get 10 points for state sponsorship, sometime states ask for it but it is not a requirement. Secondly in the box showing 10 points for regional state sponsorship. This is actually a provisional visa not a temporary visa in the usual sense. The regional state sponsored visa can be converted to a permanent one after two years.

As to what you should do next, well it depends what path you want to pursue. If she can get 60 points then I would have thought the regional state sponsored skilled migrant visa would be the best course and for this she will need to take IELTS as she needs the points and she also needs a skills assessment -APHRA registration is not required for the visa application.

If she cannot get 60 points, well then as already mentioned she would need to find an employer willing to sponsor for a permanent visa before she turns 50. She would need a skills assessment for this visa too and that is probably something you should be looking into now.

Thanks for replying....

 

So can you please advise what is the best way forward and what is the best visa to apply for?

 

AHPRA ready to go, and we would ideally like to go for PR, but she is 50 in May 2017

 

Thanks in advance

It is very difficult to pass the points test after the age of 45 but not impossible. For example maximum points for English (20), a degree (15), max points for work experience (15) and regional state sponsorship (10) provides 60 points in total. Has this option been ruled out for any reason already?

She would need to get a wriggle on though, as a skills assessment is required for the visa process, not APHRA registration, that could have been done later in fact. I think it may be possible to do a modified skills assessment once APHRA registration is obtained though, so that might save some time.

Other than that, the only way she can secure a permanent visa is to find an employer willing to sponsor. She would need a skills assessment for this too, so if you have any chance at all, then perhaps this is a process you need to start urgently.

After she reaches 50, I would be pretty certain that there will be no way of obtaining a permanent visa as nurses do not typically earn enough to qualify through the over 50s route. In this case as Verystormy mentions, you just need to weigh up if you are happy to move over for an adventure for a few years as return will be inevitable.

Hi all

I have had my 309/100 visa application lodged since July and waiting for approval, my wife is my sponsor and has just had British Citizenship approved, please can anyone advise if this would effect our application and if I should alert immi?

Thanks in advance

C

I cannot think how that would be relevant.

Thanks for your responses guys.

 

If I get to 2days before my visa expires and I still have not luck in finding a sponsor, would you agree it would be best to get my current employer to cancel my contract with the company which would end my 457 and then give me 60days to get another sponsor locked in?

 

Would I have to leave the country?

 

Thanks again.....

 

Been here for over 7 years, 2 young kids born here, wife has a small business and I still have one foot on the plane...what a joke.

No I would not agree because it won't play out like that. If you or your employer inform immigration that your employment has ended, they will immediately see that the visa expires in two days anyway and would just let it happen. They are certainly not going to give you what would effectively be a 60 day extension.

With the Christmas holidays coming up, no sponsor in sight and a visa expiring in January, you really do need some urgent professional assistance to see if there are any other options to consider, but you really have left this very late and perhaps you are not appreciating the gravity of the situation. Have you even started to look into moving back to the UK, because right now that looks to be a very real possibility.

As an afterthought, your current employer is happy to see you go in January? Have they already give you redundancy notice?

For those without air-con I really sympathise...:elvis:

 

SYDNEY sweltered through its hottest December night on record as the mercury refused to budge to acceptable levels.

Fans and airconditioners copped a workout and hundreds hit the beach last night as people desperately tried to keep cool.

The Bureau of Meteorology confirmed the overnight temperature dipped to 27.1C.

It was the highest minimum on record. The previous record was set on Christmas Day 1858, when it dropped to 26.3C.

The temperature also smashed all but one previous

I remember a few years ago we had a spell of +40c days and I was sure it didn't fall below 30c at night once or twice during the week.

Are Harvey Norman in the U.K. too, or do they post?

No they are not in the UK.

Nah - this one was a real psycho bi$chtroll from hell.

Well there are some unpleasant people about. But I don't think it is correct to claim they have a particular mental illness, unless you know they have been diagnosed as such.

I had never heard of this one, but I read about it as I wondered if it was like Borederline Personality Dosorder (it's not). People wth this condition are likely to indulge in criminal behaviour and have sociopathic tendencies.

Applied for it now as just going by their website, which states to submit police checks from any other country you have lived in with the application.

 

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/801-/Partner-visa-(subclasses-820-and-801)-document-checklist

 

 

 

• Police certificates from each country in which anyone in your application has spent a total of 12 months or more in the past 10 years since turning 16 years of age. Provide the original certificates and keep a copy for yourself.

 

 

I think you may have been selective with your extract from the instructions. Immigration state to obtain police checks and medicals on request. Applying for them now when you are not even going to lodge the partner visa application until March, will almost certainly mean you will be redoing them anyway as they will have expired. If you have some more to do that you have not yet started then save yourself time, money and effort and don't send off for them.

To your original questio, they take two weeks give or take and it is unlikely that your witness / signatory will be contacted at all.

Hey guys,

 

Any help greatly appreciated...

 

My 457 expires end of January 2017 and I am unsure if I can get another sponsor in time although I am actively looking and having interviews.

 

If I have not lodged anything before the visa expires will I get 60 or 90 days to leave or is there anyway of getting a bridging visa to give me more time to finalise with a new employer?

 

Thanks in advance....stressful times!

If it expires it expires, you must lodge another visa application or leave by the expiry date.

You do not get expiry plus 60 or 90 days. The 60 or 90 days you may have read about refers to notice of cancellation. There is no notice to expiry, this is clear from the outset.

Hi,

 

I am trying to find the CSOL list for queensland. The only thing I can find is a QSOL list which says is only for people in queensland already. Anyone have the link for this??? The queensland webpage is confusing. I am in the UK at the moment.

There is no such thing as the Queensland CSOL. THe SOL and CSOL are both federal government lists not state lists.

If you want to know what occupations Queensland are sponsoring you need to look at the Quuensland sponsorship lists. When I am looking something up for a poster, I typically just google "Queensland state sponsorship list" or similar.

Hi Bungo,

 

Thanks for your reply,

 

My visa details are Business Entry (Class UC) Work (Skilled) (Subclass 457) visa - Program or Project Administrator. I live in Sydney.

 

I have set up a home in Sydney and it would be mean moving which we do not have to do if possible.

 

I believe all those visa's means moving out of NSW.

Ok. I asked about the state on the off chance you were in South Australia and might be able to secure a sponsorship. In this case though, you are very unlikely to be successful. You are going to need an employers support, unless your wife can obtain a skilled migrant or permanent employer sponsored visa.

Hi,

 

I Desperately need some help as me and my family are in trouble.

 

My 457 visa expires in Jan and to re apply I needed a skills assessment which will be issued shortly as the changed the laws since almost 4 years ago (anyone re applying for Project Admin Role needs a relevant qualification, I obtained a diploma in Project Management)

 

Once I get the skills assessment I can be nominated for 186 as a Project Administrator/ Manager.

If the 457 gets renewed and I get to April I will of been with my company for 2 years and can get PR through the transition stream, either way my boss is not keen on either and wants to keep me tied to the company.

 

The same thing haopened with my last sponsor, I did 2 years and they wouldn't put my forward.

 

I have a English wife and 2 young children and I have been here for over 7years, this is really stressing my family's life out, can anyone offer a suggestion or ways I do not have to rely on the company ?

 

Can I put this application in myself?

 

Any help greatly appreciated.

Loads of people get a permanent visa without involving an employer. Australia has the skilled migrant program for this. Have you ever looked into a 189, 190 or 489 visa? My concern is your occupation might not be eligible, do you know what occupation code has been used for the 457? What state do you live in?

Totally depends on when you fly and how far in advance you book. We flew Rome to Edinburgh a few years ago for £19.99. I don't know if everyone would consider that cheap however, down to interpretation.

 

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I agree. Flights to Europe are not cheap across the board, but there are good deals to be had if you book at the right time, during a sale, far enough in advance etc. I thought much the same as for domestic Australia flights, we picked up some good deals from time to time there too.

Hi, my parents hold a contributory parent visa, with my brother (24 yrs) as a dependent. The visa is due to expire in March 2017. Due to work and study commitments, they have visited Australia numerous time over the past 4 years with the plan to move permantly in Jan 2017. All was going to plan until recently the sales contract on their house has fallen through and it is unlikely that they will find another buyer until the new year. I would be very appreciative of any advise regarding if they would be eligible for a resident return visa so that they can stay and finalise the sale of their house before moving over together, which may be May/June once the house is settled. They have each spent about 6 months in total in Oz over the past 4 years, with there most recent visit 2 months ago. Many thankks

After spending so much money on a parent visa, I think it would be foolish in the extreme for them to pin their hopes on getting a RRV. There is no way of knowing whether they would get it or not so why take the risk.

They should push on with their moving plans, at the very least one of them should come over, but really no reason they cannot both do so. It is perfectly possible to complete a house sale from overseas. I have personally both sold and bought a property in the UK whilst I was living overseas.

Hi everyone

Just joined the forum and it looks very helpful and friendly so thought I would ask a couple of questions and maybe get some feedback off you guys.

it has been my dream to live in Australia for as long as I can remember, I have been there before and loved it so I'm not shooting in the dark or wet behind the ears so asking more to do with the enjoyment and lifestyle elements of living there.

I have been offered a job in NSW Victoria area and my wage is AU$28 which I think is about £16 an hour which is the same I get in the UK BUT the cost of living in OZ seems a lot more expensive with everything from food to vehicles.

 

• Is the salary on par with living expenses?

• Do you pay for medical?

• Do you have to put your vehicle through MOT every year?

• I will be renting and coming out with No funds as not got a house or anything in UK to sell so adding this to my outgoings too(+/- AU$300 a week)

• what is your average weekly bill for single person shopping/water/electric ...

 

I know and accept the fact that moving and living in OZ is more about the lifestyle and standard of living and enjoying life is more what its about than money but I would like to not scrimp and save but live moderately.

So should I stay or should I go? am I being a fool and wanting to live the dream or should I stay and live what I am used to?:skeptical:

 

Answers, advice, hints and tips welcome

Thank You

I see from another thread that you currently earn £16 an hour, the purchasing power of this is well above the purchasing power of $28 and it is very misguided to use the current low exchange rate to make a comparison. You will definitely be worse off than you are now and this is a below average income. I find the questions about whether it is "on a par with living expenses" amd "average weekly bills" to be unanswerable as people will adapt their spending to suit their budget, there is not a standard weekly spend.

To some of your questions, Australia had Medicare, a bit like the NHS but you might pay for some things. Yes we did something like an MOT for the car every year in NSW.

On that, I am puzzled as to where you are moving to though and you may be too. NSW is one state and Victoria is another. There is no such thing as "NSW Victoria", do you have any idea where you are going to be based? I would suggest you find out and research the area carefully, if this is remote Australia it could be a huge culture shock and nothing like the Australia you have been dreaming of.

Overall I am inclined to say that you should go for it and I say that for one reason only, because you have said it is something you always wanted to do and have dreamed of. So here is your chance. I would tone down your expectations over lifestyle though, the country does not make the lifestyle it is you that makes the lifestyle. My lifestyle was identical to the lifestyle I had in UK because, by choice, I went over there and lived a similar kind of life. Actually now I am back in the UK I have been living a different lifestyle because I made the choice to change it.

People from English speaking nations are not required to take IE,TS. The vast majority do because it is so easy way to score points, bitbf the points can be met without it then no need for it.

I'm very happy with lots of the information I have received on here and found it extremely helpful. But I would not offer advice and tell people that there's no way of them applying for a visa unless it was an area that I'm experienced in. I have spoken to bungo a number of times explaining that there are options for people who work in childcare yet he is still telling new people on here otherwise. It would be a shame for someone to take this incorrect advice and think that there isn't an option for them

I have not spoken to you "a number of times" in fact I don't recall you at all. But I would have thought if we had interacted a "number of times" you might actually know that I am a "she" not a "he".

If you are happy to tell people that they can take a diploma course in Australia in childcare and have this lead to a permanent visa the knock yourself out. You can present your view that this is a great idea. My thoughts is that this is not a great idea. But this is a forum, I do not offer professional advice.

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