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  1. seandel

    Vetassess Electrician's Practical Exam.

    Congrats on your visa success Welsh Soroka. Will you be there to cheer on Gatland's Lions against the Wallabies? Thanks again for the info, me and my better half are going to have to look very closely at this, but I don't think it'll be possible. I'm invited on a 189 independant visa. I've got all I need (IELTS, Vetassess, etc.). Our problem is timing. I'm nearly 40, and so lose points from then on. So I had to apply now. It's my second invite, and I won't get another. We'll never be able to get there before 2015, but you say we will have to be in the country within 12 months of the visa being issued? Fùçk!n9 rules & red tape !!!!!!!!! Aghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for work out there, I've been already on a WHV, there was a lot of work on at the time, but friends living there have kept me up to date with the changes. You'll have to do the year gap training bù11sh!t now, which means being a trade assistant for a year, with college time and site logbook. That means holiday time studying and in college, and less pay than a guy just out of his time, who doesn't have a clue. Work is apparently available in the Perth area, and in the mines (FIFO), but less on the east coast.
  2. seandel

    MAX Time

    We've to be there within a year, if I understand correctly, but can come and go for 4 more years....... and after that?
  3. seandel

    Vetassess Electrician's Practical Exam.

    Thanks for the info Welsh Soroka. So, if accepted, I've got a max of 5 years. Where did you find that info? I've been looking everywhere.
  4. seandel

    Vetassess Electrician's Practical Exam.

    I almost forgot, there's a DOL starter that you have to draw, and name the parts, and then cable it with banana plugs. The examiner will tell you to turn around, and he'll put on a fault. Up to you to find it. Practice this also. Again, learn the disconnect-reconnect by heart, and practice it on a bit of gear. The written exam is mostly Ohm's law, and the likes. Read the questions carefully. One that almost caught me was, doubling the voltage to a circuit multiplies the power by 2,3,4, or 8. There are questions on capacitance, reactance, resistance, but all the formulas were on the back page. Good luck.
  5. Hi guys. Here's a heads-up on the Vetassess exam. The day of the exam (North London), we were kept in a classroom for 30 minutes because they couldn't find all the paperwork. Be wary of the time allowed, they say 6PM on the paperwork, but at 3.30 we were told that we had 45 minutes left. You don't have to bring your own tools, but it's better if you do (the tools provided are pretty basic, you lose more time waiting for them, you will always work quicker and better with tools that you're used to). It's pretty basic stuff on the board, 2 way switch plus lamp holder, socket and spur, PVC pipe, clipping, small board with RCD & MCBs. Watch out for the trap - follow the dimensions given between switches, etc. The switch that's higher than the socket on paper, might be lower on your board. Follow the dimensions given !!! Pace yourself to be finished at 3PM, and then test your installation (beep it) to make sure your light is off with the 2 switches up, socket poarity etc. The examiner next door checked the mesurements, ours didn't (he just took photos). The board work is fairly straightforward (I haven't bent a PVC pipe in nearly 20 years), just watch the time. One of the guys had really taken his time, and the 45 minute call at 3 o' clock meant he didn't have time to finish. During the day you'll get called away to test some gear. Ours was a heater with a ruptured heating element, and N-E fault. It's fairly basic, even if you're not used to fault finding. You'll have a megger and multimeter given to you, as well as a test report form. The trickiest part of the exam is the "disconnect - reconnect". THIS PART IS CRUCIAL, if you mess it up, you'll have messed up the whole lot. Learn their proceedure by heart, and practice it on any piece of kit (I rehersed on the hotel hair drier for 2 hours the night before - and was, the next day, glad I did ). Talk your way through the proceedure, be logical in your approach, DON'T FORGET TO TEST YOUR TESTER before and after every time you use it, and tell him why. Show the guy you know what you're doing, so if you make a mistake, he'll put it down to nerves. I cannot emphasise enough how important this part is. Learn it by heart. There's a multi-choice exam that's not too tricky. There are (what I would consider to be) trick questions. Read the questions carefully. It's not an easy exam, simply because of the environment. There are people talking, moving about, etc, so it's easy to get distracted. Pay attention to exactly what they're asking for. It's the first time I've taken an electrical exam, where all the formulas are printed on the back page (crazy, huh!!!). If I remember right, there are 5 sections. You're allowed 1 mistake in each. Although, the examiner will tell you before he finishes your paper if you "need to have another look". He gave papers back to guys, and told them that they needed to get at least 4 right in each section. He puts a tick next to the right answers and writes nothing on the wrong ones, so even if you make a few mistakes here, it's not a disaster. To sum up the whole lot - It's a VERY expensive, unrealistic exam, which, once passed gives you an OTSR (offshore technical skills record). This piece of paper is needed for a visa application, but once you're in Oz, it's only use, is to wipe your ar5é with. The safety authorities in Oz reckon that your 20 years experience and qualifications mean very, very little, and your OTSR even less. Because the regs are different, they tell us that we are 4 th year apprentices. Try and get a job with that. The regs are different for laywers, doctors, driving instructors, project managers, etc. , but it's only us sparks that have to go through this gap year bu11sh!t. There were back doors (Victoria licences etc.), but these have all but closed. You have to go through the Vetassess process, to be told in the end that this "qualification" is worth nothing. Vetassess is a long haul, to get your OTSR, but it doesn't finish there. Once you're in Oz, it's a year long process to get your "A" licence, including college time & site logbooks. So, the only question is..............is it all worth it ??????????????? Hope I've been some help, and good luck. PS. Good luck also to the B&I lions, may they kick (especially the Irish boys) the Aussie's ar5es. PSS. I'm also looking for info on the max. time between a visa being issued, and arriving in Oz. Anybody got any ideas ???????? thread "Max time"
  6. seandel

    MAX Time

    Hi guys, Does anyone know the maximum time allowed between a 189 visa being issued, and arrival in Oz ? I'm on my second (and final) invitation, and so I have to apply before July, but I don't think we'll be ready for at least 2 years (for a lot of reasons) I had to apply now, as my 40th birthday present ( in a few months) will be no longer having 60 points. I've looked all over the forums, and gov.au, but can't find the answer. Can anyone help, as this is the key question. Vetessas, IELTS, and all the rest have cost a small fortune, so I don't really want to pay the visa fees if we have to be there in a year (and can't). Thanks for any info.
  7. seandel

    to go or not to go that is the question

    Hi Guys, I had my company go under, due to circumstances out of my control, so I can relate to the problem. These are difficult times, in Europe & in Oz. Each person's situation needs to be examined uniquely, as each situation is different. So I don't think anyone person can really advise you on weither to move or not. It is an expensive voyage, and as many have pointed out, you need quite a lump sum to tide you over until regular, full-time wages start coming in. If you do leave debt in the UK, bear in mind that personel debts can be sold by a bank to a debt collecting agency, who can and will trace you in Oz. A friend of mine was chased 3 years after uni in Scotland, for a student loan, by an agency in Sydney, who were not particularly friendly. I'm not saying that you will be chased if you leave bad debt, but it's still a risk. Declaring youself bankrupt is an option that only your accountant can really advise you on, but I think you'd be better prepared (psycologically) to start a new life in Oz, if you didn't have that skeleton in the closet. Talk to the accountant, bank, lawyer, and anyone else who can give you options, and then decide. Best of luck, I really hope things work out.