thanks for the advice mate, well we like weekends away, day trips and the outdoor living, kinda the point in us wanting to move over cause here ur stuck in all the time and its miserable, just trying to weigh up all the pros and cons of both places then taking it from there. we have plenty time so just trying to do as much research as possible. ive heard the mozzies in adelaide are far worse than brisbane, is this true? silly things like that could be the difference on where to live although brisbane gets dark really early where adelaide doesnt so thats a big plus for adelaide as id like to sit out for a bit in the back yard or so on weekdays after work, also how cold is adelaide in winter? brisbane seems to have pretty decent year round weather but with the early nights its a toughy to decide. any advice good or bad is appreciated