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  1. I have been reading through some of the posts and I think I already know the answer!! My elderly mother (87years old) had a minor stroke three months ago and is now ready to go back to live in her home (which she owns). She is in the UK but both her children, all her grandchildren and great grandchildren live in Australia. I would prefer she came to live with us for what years she has left. My mother lived in Australia for 17 years and receives an Australian pension. From what I have read, you can apply for one visa that takes 20+ years and there is another one which you have to make a substantial contribution. There is still a wait for 2 years on this visa. At this age, two years seems a long time and also the thought of her living on her own for this length of time is distressing. She only has two elderly brothers in the UK who of course, cannot support her, they are too busy looking after themselves. She doesn't even have any friends or helpful neighbours. So is that it, is there no where to go to appeal on humanitarian grounds. I am feeling very stressed about the whole thing. I just get so cross when I think she could have become an Australian citizen in the 80's when I did. Now she is stuck over there, lonely and crying because she has no one. My dad died a few years ago. Any advice, even if it's to say, that's it, nothing to be done, would be appreciated. Maybe some of you have been in a similar situation and so have some idea of the outcome.
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    Our Australian adventure Has begun

    Congratulations to you and your family. I remember when you first started to post on this site. I was about to return to Australia after a few years in UK travelling. We became Australian citizens in 1982 and I am so glad that we did. I loved Australia from the moment I landed in 1973 and I felt at home immediately. Of course, there were a lot of things that were alien to me but I soon adjusted. I settled in very quickly mainly I believe, because I didn't have a foot in each country. No Skype, no internet, no telephone, just aerogrammes so my attention, and that of my family was focussed on our life in Australia. We embraced the Australian way of life. Also, when I arrived I didn't believe the pavements to be paved with gold. We had three jobs between us at the beginning, to help get more money for our house deposit. We had a goal and we worked towards it. My children and grandchildren are now reaping the rewards and I for one, am very grateful for my life in this beautiful country. My advice to people emigrating nowadays, keep focussed on your dream and do not let those who want you to fail, get in to your head. From personal experience, I know that there can be family and friends who want you to be homesick so that you return to your homeland. They have an agenda and they work at it constantly. You have to be aware and concentrate on your life in your new country. You have left your old life behind and have to work at your new life. Family and friends can be supportive or destructive. Just be aware which camp yours are in. By this comment, please don't think I don't love my family and friends back in the old country because I do. I am just very switched on after seeing this happen to a lot of people over the years. You will get lots of great information on this site from people like Howard. You just have to not get pulled in to those who are very negative and who want to rain on other people's parade. Howard I wish you and your family a wonderful future in Australia and the same to everyone else who wants to give it a go. xx
  3. My granddaughter has been in the UK for the last three months and she has told us she has already done what they are doing now. She is well ahead. We live in Melbourne. I am not sure what makes you think Australia is behind. Again, the school the child attends and the teachers come in to the equation
  4. I am sorry but I omitted to say, you had to stay for two years, unless you wished to repay the government the cost of your fares out there. I know about this because I was a £10 pom. The Australian government were not silly enough to pay for a family's fares out to their country to have them turn around in a matter of a few weeks. They were aware that it takes time to settle in in any new country. I had a friend who was crippled by homesickness and found it hard to get up in the morning. Her husband worked and her three sons were happy in school. She stuck it out and finally came through "the tunnel". She goes back to the UK to see family and old friends every two years, but is so pleased that she did not throw the towel in. If your children and your spouse love their new life, then it is my belief you really have to try longer to settle. I'm not getting in to the UK versus Australia debate because, personally I love both countries and can live in either country. Be careful what you wish for, you could end up in the UK a single mother with all the struggles that that brings and if your children love their life in Australia, you could have resentful children as well. I sincerely hope you find a way to keep your family together.
  5. When people emigrated as £10 poms they had to stay for two years before returning to their country of origin. That's because it is acknowledged that it takes time to settle down in a new country. Eight months is way too early and it sounds as though you have been thinking about returning for a lot of that time. I emigrated in the 1970's when there was no Skype, I didn't have a telephone and contact was with an aerogramme (one week each way). I had no family or friends when I arrived with my husband and two sons. I threw myself in to making a home in this new country. Nowadays, I think new migrants spend too much time in their old life, constantly contacting friends on Skype. They have a foot in each camp so to speak. I am sorry you feel homesick but I do think you need to give it more time for the sake of your family remaining as a family. Best of luck.
  6. I absolutely would not sign this petition. It is completely biased towards mothers and has no interest in the plight of the fathers. Some mothers just decide that they want to return "home" and they are not running away from an abusive husband/father. Before The Hague Convention came in to being, the left behind parent would find it financially crippling to fight for their children's return. Now all legal expenses are paid for, for the left behind parent. This legislation is there to protect children, to prevent them from being removed from the life they know and taken to another country, maybe to people they have never met before. They lose their parent, their family, friends, school and pets. They are not asked if they wish to leave, they are just taken. Each case is treated individually and the evidence presented by the parents, is examined by the court and a decision made whether the children are to be returned. Any domestic violence, abuse, addiction (alcohol, drugs etc) by the left behind parent is addressed and can result in the parent who abducted being allowed to stay in the country they "escaped" to. Some people seem to think that mothers always act in the children's best interests. Unfortunately that is not always true. There are a lot of selfish mothers out there who are only looking out for themselves. I am in complete agreement that children should be taken out of abusive homes who wouldn't want that. I have been on to this site and read some of the "scenarios" and in all honesty, who knows whether what is written by these women is true. They can all make accusations to, in some way, excuse their actions but these have to be proven. There is always two sides to every situation. Ultimately any decision made should be for the welfare of the children!! Before signing this petition, you should go to The Hague Convention International Abductions site to read and understand the legislation, not some half cocked sexist petition with unsubstantiated stories. To be the innocent, left behind parent is the most painful and lonely situation to find yourself in. PS I am a mother, not a father!
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    Reasons to leave OZ

    You are right about the houses being cold in the winter with no double glazing. There is central heating in the houses but the older houses are not as well insulated as the more modern ones. My husband was a registered builder until his stroke, so when we built houses to live in, both in UK and Australia they were always well insulated to keep in the heat in the winter, and keep it out in the summer. The house we are in now is an older house but we are looking to move in a few months to a more modern house which will be warmer. When we first emigrated in the 70's to South Australia, there wasn't any heating in the new houses, not even a gas fire but I don't remember being really cold and I don't remember condensation on the windows like we have now. Mind you, it is warmer in SA and I was younger so I probably didn't feel the cold as much as I do now LOL Having lived in North Wales for 20 years I know about rain and I certainly know about gale force winds living up a mountain near Snowdonia. So in comparison, the winters here are extremely mild. I certainly don't think you are trying to put down Australia, you are just trying to get as much information as possible before moving your family across the other side of the world. As I said in my other post, I don't find the cost of living any dearer here than in the UK. My son who returned to Melbourne 12 months ago was very much like you, researched every thing even though he had lived in Australia from the age of 2 to 20 years. He was never off this site. When he arrived a year last April with his family (two children), he was very surprised with the cost of living. He had expected it to be much higher. If you have been living in Australia for a number of years, then yes, the cost of living has gone up. However, the problem is (and I was guilty of it) when you first arrive you are constantly changing the dollars in to GBP and making the comparison and then it does appear expensive. The wages are higher though and the pension we get here is much better than in the UK so it does even itself out. You just have to think why you want to leave the UK. Do you think that Australia can offer you whatever is missing in your life there. Both times I moved it was for adventure in my life not because there was anything wrong with the country I was living in. I am lucky in so much as I settled down in both countries, it wasn't a problem. The UK is a beautiful country, mostly because of the rain!! I loved living there and I loved travelling to across the water to Europe. Australia also has a beauty of its own and of course the weather allows you to enjoy the outdoors. I brought my children out when they were very young so there was no protest from them. My grandchildren came over aged 6 and 10 and both have settled wonderfully well and absolutely love the outdoor life. Oh I have just thought of a negative LOL Keep it quiet if you are barracking for the English cricket team LOL The Aussies seem to think that as soon as you arrive on their shores you should don a yellow and green jersey LOL Another negative is you are always being asked how long you have been here, even if you've lived here for donkey's years. They hear the accent and then along comes the question, "where are you from, how long have you been here". I don't bother about it as much now but it used to irritate me when I was younger LOL All in all I find the Aussies to be a friendly lot, although they can sometimes be a little too laid back and coarse. Maybe that is my age showing LOL Mind you I am not in my dotage, just older than most of the people on this site LOL Mind you there were quite a few of those characters where we lived in the UK! I wish you and your family the very best whatever decision you make. Make sure you live your life to the full and enjoy each and every day.
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    Reasons to leave OZ

    I didn't have a problem with your reply Northshorepom. I am not an over sensitive person at all, but I have seen some rather impolite replies to people on the site and I just think some people should calm down a bit.
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    Reasons to leave OZ

    My post seems to have ruffled some feathers with a couple of people. It was not intentional I assure you. However, one of the replies I thought was a bit over the top and I have to admit to feeling verbally attacked. If you do disagree with another members view, please try and express yourself in a "quieter" manner. Actually Zee, I have lived here for almost 20 years, but as you say this means "bugger all". Many thanks for the good wishes from the other members, it's much appreciated. My husband starts his radiotherapy in a few weeks and I am sure we will both get through this very well. I wish you all a good life, wherever you choose to spend it. Best wishes.
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    Reasons to leave OZ

    Nobody should ever feel a failure if they try something and it doesn't turn out as they expected. They will have gained by the experience for sure. As has been stated many times previously, it is better to try things in life instead of living with regrets later. I agree with the post by Sydneyhorn, and that was what I was trying to express. People are very different in what they want, some never move more than a few streets away from their parents/extended family and are very happy with that situation. Others like me crave adventure and that was why I emigrated in the first place when I was in my early 20's. That was why I returned to the UK in 1990's, the need for new experiences through travel. Actually, what is life, a catalogue of experiences! Australia has changed an awful lot since I came all those years ago, but it is still a great place to live. When I was returning to the UK in 1990 I got all the doom and gloom thrown at me and those who thought I was mad. Do you know, I thoroughly enjoyed my new life in North Wales. I lived in a most beautiful part of the country and never regretted returning. However, the downside to the UK for us is the harsh weather. So, if you have an itch you should scratch it! Best of luck!
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    Reasons to leave OZ

    We live on the Mornington Peninsula having moved to Australia 20 months ago. My husband had a severe stroke in the UK a few years ago and although he survived through good nursing, afterwards there was no rehabilitation offered as the resources were very limited in North Wales and they thought it would be wasted on him. Here he receives physiotherapy twice a week, speech therapy once a week, occupational therapy, input from social worker, dental care, orthotic services and the list goes on. All free. He has recently been diagnosed with prostate cancer and the tests carried out for diagnoses were done within days, not weeks. One test he had done on the Wednesday afternoon and we received a phone call from the consultant oncologist(not the receptionist) at 8.30am the following morning to explain the results to us. This is the Peter MacCallum Cancer Hospital in Melbourne, which is a world renowned cancer hospital. The hospital system I have found to be excellent, and the staff extremely friendly. You can pay to see a GP or you can go to one that Bulk Bills (free) and I have found the doctors who bulk bill to be just as good as the others. You do not get inferior treatment from less qualified doctors. We are living solely on a disability pension and we manage extremely well. We are not living hand to mouth and we have a good standard of living. Prior to coming over I used to come on this site and read about how expensive everything was, but found this not to be true when I arrived. If you are earning AUD then you are ok. Things appear expensive if you start the game of keep changing prices in to GBP because of the poor exchange rate. The people in Oz are very friendly and although I have caring duties that restrict my ability to go out a lot, I have made some lovely friends. I emigrated to Australia (Adelaide) the first time in 1973 and stayed for 17 years. We returned to the UK solely to enable us to travel around Europe for a few years, but we got stuck due to family commitments and then my husband had his brain haemorrhage which meant we had to stay for a few years longer. In the 70's there was no internet, it was expensive to phone the UK, so you only had letters which took 7 days each way. This really was a blessing because you could concentrate 100% on your new life in Oz. We arrived and went in to the hostel where we stayed for just two weeks before getting a rented house near the beach. We both got jobs, the children went to school and we got on with the job of every day living. My children had a wonderful childhood in an amazing environment, so much so, they have all returned with their children. We made new friends and we moved on in our minds and embraced the Australian way of life. Nowadays, with Skype and other social networking, people tend to have a foot in each country. They are still involved with what is happening on a daily basis, with friends and family back in the UK. They then feel they are missing out on social events and such like. I don't think this is the best way to start a new life in another country. Nobody knows whether you are going to like it, no matter how much research you do. I loved it in the 1970's as I do now. Why, because I look for the positives not the negatives. I settled back in the UK when we returned without any problems, and now I am back in Oz, in very different circumstances, but again happily settled. If someone does not like a particular place, it isn't always the place but the individual person's needs that is causing the problem. What I would say is, the people who come over, embrace the Australian way of life and are happy, tend not to come on this site very much as they are too busy living their life. The ones that don't settle down well and are unhappy are usually the ones that come on the site telling people how bad things are over here. So it is a bit biased that way. My view is, nobody is right and nobody is wrong. Australia is one place that is seen differently through people's eyes. You just need to get yourself sorted with employment, decide on a place to live. (I love Melbourne because it has four seasons, sometimes in one day LOL) and then just go for it. Research all you want and get advice regarding certain issues from unbiased people and then go for it. Nothing happens in life whilst you are sitting on the fence, you have to make a decision and then things start to happen one way or another. I wish you and all other families who are contemplating emigrating to another country my very best wishes. PS I have been sitting here thinking of a negative that I can say about Australia from my view point and with hand on heart, the only thing I can say is, I wish they would move Europe closer down under as I do miss those wonderul places I visited regularly. But I do have the memories and life moves on. There are many wonderful places still to be explored in this hemisphere!!
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    Our Australian adventure Has begun

    I am so pleased to hear that you have your computer company is set up and everything is going well for you. It is 20 months since we returned to Oz and we are now living on the Mornington Peninsula at a beautiful place called Mornington. My husband who had a severe stroke in 2008 in the UK is receiving physiotherapy twice a week and speech therapy once a week which he could not access in the UK (paid for by the government). He has also been diagnosed with cancer since our return and I have to say the treatment he is receiving is excellent. Had a test at lunch time on the Wednesday, at 8.30am the following morning the consultant oncologist phoned me with the result!! I nearly fell out of bed. So we are very pleased with the medical side of things which a lot of people are worried about when they are considering coming to Oz. The weather is wonderful for my husband as well. We can go out even in the winter because there are always nice days. No ice and snow and winds that cut right through you My adult children and grandchildren are all here now and live close so that is great as well. I wish you all the very best with your new life down under.
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    Am i nuts??

    I am sorry, but three months is just not long enough. You have only just got over jet lag LOL A friend has just returned to UK having been here for a similar length of time and he arrived back in OZ last weekend!!! He lasted just two months back there and was thoroughly disillusioned! Now he has gone to another state. Best of luck in what you decide, but the ruling the government used to make to the £10 poms "you stay 2 years or you pay back your fare out" was for a good reason. It does take time.
  14. Goodness me, I am so pleased someone else has lived in Australia without being constantly attacked by snakes and man eating spiders LOL I am not saying that what the posters said about these Australian natives is not true, but you have to remember they were out bush. I have lived in Australia for 17 years (15 years in Adelaide) and I have never seen a huntsman spider or a snake. I have also spent plenty of holidays in a tent! My brother used to get brown snakes going to his dog's water bowl, but again he was out in a rural area. Snakes hear you coming and usually get out of your way. They don't hide waiting to attack you. If you accidentally stood on one, then naturally they would attack. The only native animal I saw in our garden was a blue tongued lizard who we welcomed as they eat the bugs. Regarding insect life in your home, you can let a "bomb" off in the house (whilst you are all out!!) and it kills all creepy crawlies for months. On another subject, if it is Adelaide you are moving to, it has to be in the southern suburbs where the fantastic beaches are. Steer away from the north (Elizabeth) because it is a long way to travel with the kids to the beach in hot weather. "Are we there yet" LOL There are superb beaches all along the south coast. Good luck!!
  15. I lived for 15 years in Adelaide and 2 1/2 years in Melbourne and returned to UK primarily to scratch my travel itch for a few years My two children were very young when we emigrated to South Australia and my daughter was born there. They were in their late teens when they returned to UK. The two boys (oldest ones) fitted in ok, they enjoyed the night life. My daughter who was 14 did not. Everything went wrong for her, school was a nightmare and she did not fit in. However we returned to Australia in Nov 2011, having looked after our sick parents who died whilst we were back there. Our three adult children have also returned with their children. We have settled down right away, but it was easy as we never disliked Australia. My grandchildren absolutely love it here and are like water babies, always on the beach. It is lovely to see them enjoy themselves in the sunshine. I completely agree with what you said about things not being exactly what you imagined regarding family when you return to the UK. My husband used to miss his parents and siblings, and imagined "get togethers" and family gatherings happening. This of course never materialised and it was a big let down for him. In fact he heard more off them when he lived in Australia. I am so pleased that your children are very happy at their forthcoming return to Australia and I wish you all a very happy and prosperous life in your chosen country. Life is not as easy in Australia as it used to be, but I have to say it is still a damn good place to live. (Before all the pro UK posters start having a go, the UK is also a beautiful place, full of culture and history and I thoroughly enjoyed the years I spent back there. Unfortunately the weather is not as hospitable as it is down under and we need some warm sun on our bones! Also, I do find the lifestyle more relaxed here and the days just seem to be longer. I also find the people very friendly and helpful, and this is in the suburbs of Melbourne).