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thanks for that. Appreciate the help. she don't qualify for those 2 dates so we only qualify for the 5 years thing. ugh. I did some further reading and i think that 10 months in NZ meant the 5 years started again in july 2017 ffs!! GRR.

evening all... doing some digging on getting perm' res' in aus after almost 10 years on 461 visas (uk passport / nz wife) noticed there's a partner of eligible NZ citizen 820 (temp) and 801 (perm) - the 801 says i might need an 820 first!? seems mad. but is that gospel? anyone done that? or gone straight for an 801? Or is it best to my wife to apply for the 189 perm' res' for nz citizens!? (we've been here almost 10 years but we had 11 months back in nz between aug 2016 / july 2017) does that means her 5 years to apply for perm res' restarts in july 2017?? THANK in advance for help/advice.

thanks for the advice mate...

1 - No. 2 - yes but for a couple of months in 2004. So basically irrelevant. and moving back to NZ (where I'm a PR, but obviously that means **** over here) is looking like only option if we ever want to buy a house...

Jeeez this is all going over my head a bit haha!! thanks again all. All info is good info. The reason I'm worried about the situation is, that on my current visa I'm not able to get loans etc (cars are in the Mrs' name) and obviously means no mortgage. We're now weighing up whether we can actually stay (well obviously she can!). In a nutshell, I can't get skilled migrant, as I'm not skilled, and my current job is a contract expiring March 31st 2015, plus I'd rather not go the work visa route. So it seems after reading the replies, that our best option is wife goes for AU PR, then i go for after.... over $6k later we might be able to stay,, haha

Thanks for the replies, I'm too knackered to take it all in so will read in the morning... so it seems that my 5 years does count onto PR/citizen qualification. I'm kind of sick of getting so many mixed messages from the immigration office.. ok. Thanks all again!

evening all.. I'm 3 and a bit years into my 5 year temp residency (461, partner of NZ citizen). I got given some duff info from immigration when i first got this visa. Firstly they said that the 5 years DID count towards getting PR and or citizenship (I'm uk passport holder). When it doesn't. Now my only option according to them, as i can't get loans or anything on this visa, is for my kiwi Mrs (nz passport) to get an "official PR" status, I can then apply off the back of her for a PR for myself. Now, without holding for an hour, has any kiwi's on this board done that? if so what did you do and how much was it? the immigration website sheds zero light. My MRs doesn't want to do it if it means giving up her NZ passport, so I'm at a crossroads on this atm.... can anyone shed any light!??!? my work is too busy at the mo to be holding for ages on the phone.

THanks , yeah can get another but doesn't help my situation with us settling and buying a house. At the moment only the mrs can get a car loan etc....

thanks for reply Sorry i think I can get another 461, however it leaves me in the same position of not being able to get loans/mortgage meaning that me and the wife settling here (which is what we want) is virtually impossible. I was told by immigration that I could become a full PR and now that seems to have changed, or i was misinformed. Either way it's made everything seem a lot harder than i wished. I'm on a contract at work (exp July 31st) so this is a major issue for me now. Not happy to be honest. would love a 2nd opinion, so might call immi back to see if the story changes (which I've had before with Aus and NZ immi)

Morning all. I'm in aus already, have been almost 3 years now. I'm on a 461 (partner of NZ citizen), which for those who don't know is a 5 year Temporary permanent residency. I was told originally that if I worked for 2 years with in that 5, I could apply for a full time PR visa. However just been told that I can't do that and that I also can't get another 461 meaning I can only go business or skilled migrant, neither of which I qualify for. I asked about becoming a citizen, and was told that i need to be a "proper" PR for at least a year to do that even... Anyone else had this issue??? What choices have i got?

with in a few weeks of arriving in Melbourne from sydney (where we saw none) we had a GIANT huntsman in the garage.. when i say huge, i MEAN EFFING MASSIVE.. I'm from london and the misses from Auckland, no spiders in either place apart from house ones... this thing was easily had the leg span of a 6 or 7 inch side plate - i almost wet myself.. however I killed it with a whole tin of fly spray, some glasses of water and a giant broom. Since then we've not had any that size, but we've had 2 more huntsmen in the garage, one in the house (AAARGGHH!!) and 3 on the outside of the house... Lord help us !!

thanks - interesting, express bus.. to be honest we were both aiming, if we did move, to work in the hills/west anyway. The train aspect was more for social/personal use... but a short drive to the station is never a problem on non=work days as we have to do that here in Melb too.

yes - i have that open also - will do. thanks

Hi all, ain't been on here for ages!.. In the middle of another huge decision - bit of background. (if you dont want/need background skip to paragraph 3) I'm a londoner, the misses is a kiwi (half japanese) from Auckland. We moved to Sydney 2 years ago, we rented a ****-hole house in Stanmore (another story) and we moved to Melbourne 5 months later as she was offered a dream job down here. So, I got a job here in Melbourne on arrival , the job was crap, i knew it was crap and the pay was crap - so took as stop gap. 18months later and a year of solid job hunting and applying with a few interviews sprinkled in, I've got nothing else. I've since left that job and have been jobless for 3 months... now to stop boring you - basically.. Misses loves Melbourne lifestyle. and rent prices - But career wise for me - Sydney is amazing, and as it's nearing us trying for a baby, my career is taking centre stage. I'm looking for suburbs in Sydney that have similar modern-ish housing to the links below ... that are well connected to the train without being so close that you hear each train go by, AND that aren't in the famous sydney flight paths we all love. and of course are under $700 a dam week.. Places kind of like these - I'm not saying just like these, but semi-modern with no other houses attached ... http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Rent/House/VIC/Malvern-East/?adid=8389697 http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Rent/House/VIC/Glen-Waverley/?adid=6659251 I've been looking around Epping/Beacroft/The Hills districts.... am I missing somewhere!?!? Thanks

hi all.. me and the wife are due to be in melbourne (moving from sydney) in 2 weeks and 2 days. We've still got NOWHERE to stay... we cant afford another trip to melbourne before we arrive so going straight into a proper long term rental aint going to happen. So we'll have to do the short term thing. I'm jobless as it stands , but the wife has a job in Mulgrave. We're looking for a short term furnished rental somewhere within a 20min drive to mulgrave. And we're struggling. i'm on gumtree all day pretty much, not sure where else i can look. I've checked http://www.moving-to-melbourne.co.uk/ and though there are short terms, they're all a bit pricey (except for one in Box hill which is $595, however that's still a bit over budget)... Can anyone help, advise, or just shed some light as i'm getting a bit nervous... Thanks

hey mate,, we need it for longer as we dont want to rush our long term rental choice. we did when we got here to sydney and now we regret it, as our long term rental is ****..as we rushed the process knowing we only had 6 weeks in out short term (in a fully furnished apartment for $500 a week). We'd also need to get a house (our eventual long term) that allows cats so we thought that would slow the search down. we just dont want to rush into things like we did on arrival to sydney.

i've had a couple of looks on Gumtree in the last 24hours and not much on there..but will keep looking.. If the plan goes according to plan then we'll have a car which would extend our area, but always nice to have a plan B. we're literally selling our bed/fridge/washing machine here in syd and arriving with clothes, a small tv and a few kitchen things, and our computer, so need furnished. will have a look at city hobo tho! cheers

hi all.. so our move from Sydney to melbourne is taking shape.. the misses has an offer on the table in Mulgrave. So we're thinking of the Glen Waverley area to settle.... However when we arrive we'll need a short term.. between 6 weeks to 3 months.. we dont care if its an apartment, unit or what.. we may not have a car the moment we arrive so it needs to be within a 10min walk from the GW train station... Or close to Oakleigh, Chadstone area as that's got a bus to Mulgrave... Any help or advice will be great. I've checked the moving to melbourne site.. but it's a bit costly for us as budget is $500 a week or cheaper.. (furnished of course) Thanks all !!

thanks for that... we'd also like to hear from people that have commuted in both cities..(trains/car whatever) .. my partner is in discussions for a job in Port melb and via the journey planners and stuff it looks well out of reach of public transport without taking a lifetime to get there (over an hour).. Thanks

Sorry, have to ressurect this thread with a further question. So maybe the trains/buses aren't quite as good as Sydney (am i right in saying that).. how's the driving? here in Syd its dreadful anytime of day going anywhere!.. How is it driving around the eastern suburbs and would it be ok driving from say,Balwyn (or further east) to work in Port Melbourne? or the CBD? any advice is great coz this is a HUGE decision for us.

cheers mate, are Ringwood/Croydon/Knox/Glen Waverley nice areas to live too? as in family/cat friendly?

thanks for that.. have you travelled in sydney at all? how does it compare if you have?

hi all.. so I moved to sydney 3/4 months ago.. not loving it that much.. Looking at the melbourne option. the wife wants to live in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. We're looking to work in central Melbourne or in eastern suburbs (retail head offices are all there) can anyone who's also been on sydney public transport, let me know how good/bad the buses/trams/trains are on a day to day basis!?.. clean? dirty? reliable? all the key points.. as we won't have a car for a while. THanks all