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Old 27-09-2008, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all

Glad i found the site.

I need some advice i am wanting to move to australia in the near future and wondered what the best way of achieving my dream would be.

Now i might come over a little rash here but i have never been the country but just want a better lifestyle and the chance to get my 2 daughters the lifestyle that i feel would be more beneficial.

Now heres the info on me i am a driving instrcutor (d.s.a.a.d.i) and my wife is in here 2nd year of an accounting course (AAT level 3 complete level 4 next) . I would have approx 50k to take with me and also theres my 2 daughter (8 & 4).

I was wondering if anyone would be able to offer any advice on the best way to look into it.

I dont think me or the wife have the current skill sets to get in that way so please help!!

thanks and also i am still to look into the area we would want but we are planning an holiday in the near future to test the water so to speak.

thanks to all for reading and hope you can help

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Old 27-09-2008, 06:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hi darren

just wanted to say hi and welcome

have you spoke to any agents yet? go matilda and a few others on here which are highly rated have a look in search box at top of page........

they give you about 15mins free which is enough time to sort out which visa to go for you can always look on the immi.gov.au site as well

good luck and best wishes

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Old 27-09-2008, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello Darren

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

How old are each of you and your wife respectively, please?

I think you are right about your current skills-sets. My understanding is that your wife would not count as an Accountant for the purposes of independent migration, though an employer-sponsored visa, probably in regional Australia, might be a possibility for her, I guess.

As far as Drivers of anything are concerned, the major road-haulage companies in Oz have had a heck of a job to convince the Government that there is a need to allow employer-sponsorship for Heavy Truck Drivers provided the Drivers will be engaged in the mining or construction industries in Regional Australia. They will not allow sponsorships for Furniture Removalists or ordinary Delivery Drivers. So realistically I would say that the chances of DIAC agreeing to an employer sponsored visa for a Driving Instructor could well be zero, even in Regional Oz.

Please study the ASCO Code, which is here:

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausst...$File/asco.pdf

Driving Instructor is on Page 474 and use the page numbering in the Code itself, not what Adobe says about the page numbering. The alphabetical index of occupations and page numbers is at the back of the document.

Driving Instructor is in Major Group 6: therefore in theory it is not impossible for the ENS or (more likely) the Regional Employer Concessions under the RSMS visa:

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

Theoretically it is not out of the question. Realistically, one would probably have a better chance of getting an RSMS visa for a 57 year old nurse who is willing to live and work in Darwin, however, I would suspect.

When the entry level requirements laid down in ASCO are relatively low, it is extremely difficult to convince the Regional Certifying Bodies that the employer really can't find a home-grown Aussie who could do the job instead of bringing in a migrant to do it.

If one or both of you are still comfortably under 45, one or other of you would be able to re-train for a new occupation in the UK, preferably one which is on the current MODL and is likely to remain on it:

Is your occupation in demand? - Workers - Visas & Immigration

The MODL is usually revised twice a year. The last occasion was 17th May 2008.

A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information

Alternatively, at least pick a 60 point occupation from the ASRI list, I would suggest.

If time is tight because of your age, then a Student Visa in Oz is a last-resort possibility, though that would use all of your £50,000 available capital, I suspect. Nonetheless, if you are willing to put everything into your dream, a Student visa can provide a pathway to Permanent Residency either via skilled independent migration post-graduation or via employer-sponsored migration.

Students - Visas & Immigration

Ring round some reputable registered migration agents, I would suggest. The good ones do not charge for 15 minutes or so on the phone discussing possible options with you:

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - Visa, Tax, and Financial Planning for Australia

Registered Australian Migration Agents, UK - Ian Harrop and Associates

John Mumford of the Visa Unit has a very good reputation and is said to know all about Student Visas if you are minded to consider that possibility:

Visa Unit - the emigration experts

Ask again on here before settling on any particular Agent and before paying any of them any money, I would suggest:

Best wishes

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Old 27-09-2008, 08:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello Darren

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

How old are each of you and your wife respectively, please?

I think you are right about your current skills-sets. My understanding is that your wife would not count as an Accountant for the purposes of independent migration, though an employer-sponsored visa, probably in regional Australia, might be a possibility for her, I guess.

As far as Drivers of anything are concerned, the major road-haulage companies in Oz have had a heck of a job to convince the Government that there is a need to allow employer-sponsorship for Heavy Truck Drivers provided the Drivers will be engaged in the mining or construction industries in Regional Australia. They will not allow sponsorships for Furniture Removalists or ordinary Delivery Drivers. So realistically I would say that the chances of DIAC agreeing to an employer sponsored visa for a Driving Instructor could well be zero, even in Regional Oz.

Please study the ASCO Code, which is here:

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausst...$File/asco.pdf

Driving Instructor is on Page 474 and use the page numbering in the Code itself, not what Adobe says about the page numbering. The alphabetical index of occupations and page numbers is at the back of the document.

Driving Instructor is in Major Group 6: therefore in theory it is not impossible for the ENS or (more likely) the Regional Employer Concessions under the RSMS visa:

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

Theoretically it is not out of the question. Realistically, one would probably have a better chance of getting an RSMS visa for a 57 year old nurse who is willing to live and work in Darwin, however, I would suspect.

When the entry level requirements laid down in ASCO are relatively low, it is extremely difficult to convince the Regional Certifying Bodies that the employer really can't find a home-grown Aussie who could do the job instead of bringing in a migrant to do it.

If one or both of you are still comfortably under 45, one or other of you would be able to re-train for a new occupation in the UK, preferably one which is on the current MODL and is likely to remain on it:

Is your occupation in demand? - Workers - Visas & Immigration

The MODL is usually revised twice a year. The last occasion was 17th May 2008.

A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information

Alternatively, at least pick a 60 point occupation from the ASRI list, I would suggest.

If time is tight because of your age, then a Student Visa in Oz is a last-resort possibility, though that would use all of your £50,000 available capital, I suspect. Nonetheless, if you are willing to put everything into your dream, a Student visa can provide a pathway to Permanent Residency either via skilled independent migration post-graduation or via employer-sponsored migration.

Students - Visas & Immigration

Ring round some reputable registered migration agents, I would suggest. The good ones do not charge for 15 minutes or so on the phone discussing possible options with you:

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - Visa, Tax, and Financial Planning for Australia

Registered Australian Migration Agents, UK - Ian Harrop and Associates

John Mumford of the Visa Unit has a very good reputation and is said to know all about Student Visas if you are minded to consider that possibility:

Visa Unit - the emigration experts

Ask again on here before settling on any particular Agent and before paying any of them any money, I would suggest:

Best wishes

Gill
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sorry i meant to mention we are 32
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Old 27-09-2008, 09:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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HI again, Darren

As you are both only 32, you have shed loads of time on your side.

Ho hum! If you plump for a student visa in Oz, financially you will be risking your shirts but if all goes well, you would still be plenty young enough to re-build your capital base out in Oz. That would be the fast track option, albeit financially risky.

On the other hand, if one or both of you undertake re-training in the UK then you could still be in a position to migrate whilst you are still comfortably enough under 45, though your children's ages by then would also be relevant.

I do not know anything about accountancy. Alan Collett of Go Matilda is the expert on that because he is a Chartered Accountant in both jurisdictions as well as being a Registered Migration Agent.

Accountant 2211-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

I know that one does not have to be a Chartered Accountant in order to be an "accountant" for migration purposes. I don't know whether there is any qualification short of a British degree that would be considered equivalent to an Australian degree and I have no idea what AAT is so the best thing is to leave me in blissful ignorance about that!

I'm inclined to suggest this: get your wife to ring Alan Collett and pick his brains about what she would need in order to be eligible for one of the Accountant categories for migration.

Meanwhile you pick John Mumford's brain about student visa possibilities and see what he thinks the realistic likely costs-scenario would be like.

Then ask a few others what they would suggest too, I'd say.

I don't think it is possible to do too much research. Find out as much as you possibly can before Christmas and then maybe set some time aside over the holiday period to work out what you think the best game plan for you would be, perhaps?

Best wishes

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