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Old 20-06-2007, 02:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New, fresh, with visa and full of doubt

Hi, everyone. This is our first entry.

We, Edward & Marieke, are Dutch and went for our Skilled Independent Visa two years ago. And we got it last week I can tell you, it was not a walk in the park to get it!


But, we are now two years further and we have a baby and both good paying jobsin the Netherlands! Our family is realy attached to our bob and I must say I am used to the secure way of living. Also I feel responsible to take good care of my family.

Is there anybody outthere who had the same doubt of leaving all behind to jump into a pool of insecurity?

Let me know,

Groetjes, Edward

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Old 20-06-2007, 02:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Hi Doubters

Hi there, we are in the same situation as yourselves except we haven't even applied for the visa yet!! We have a good business here in the UK but are longing for a change of life pace and something different. 2 of our children would like to go but our eldest who is 19 wants to stay in the UK. As your child is a baby - now would be perfect for you to try Oz. It doesn't have to be permanent - there are always jobs for good qualified people. You have to want to do it. If your passion for Oz is strong enough then you will make the move. Just be happy wherever you are. The grass isn't always greener.
Hi, everyone. This is our first entry.

We, Edward & Marieke, are Dutch and went for our Skilled Independent Visa two years ago. And we got it last week I can tell you, it was not a walk in the park to get it!


But, we are now two years further and we have a baby and both good paying jobsin the Netherlands! Our family is realy attached to our bob and I must say I am used to the secure way of living. Also I feel responsible to take good care of my family.

Is there anybody outthere who had the same doubt of leaving all behind to jump into a pool of insecurity?

Let me know,

Groetjes, Edward[/quote]
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Old 20-06-2007, 03:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi young blossom, you are right with the kid being a baby. That makes it easier. And right again that it hasn't to be 4ever.

Good arguments, thank's.
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Old 20-06-2007, 03:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know how you feel. We are in a similar position. We are taking our 2 children 4yrs and almost 11mth away from my inlaws who are in there 70's and have no other grandchildren. They refuse to even discuss us going.

We are hoping to rent our house here for the first 12 months just to be 100% sure. Is that an option for you?

I bet if you type doubt or unsure into the search it will come up with a million and one threads, I bet everyone of us has doubts. We would rather go and give it a try than in years to come say "we wish we had". It's not an easy choice to up sticks and move your family, but there are loads of ways to stay in touch and flight prices are within reach.

Think of all the reasons you wanted to go in the first place, I bet most of them are still there. Also, you have to do what you feel is right for your family ie wife/husband and children.

I wish you luck in your choice,

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Old 20-06-2007, 05:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Globed,

Welcome to Poms in Oz. I think that Michelle is right, lots of people have doubts. We too have a nearly 3 years and 8 month old and they are the only grandchildren. Every day I am positive that I want to go it is only when I think about what it will do to take the children away that I have doubts.

But they are the reason we want to go away, they only have us to make the decision for them that they will have a better life in Australia, I hope we have made the right choice. I'm not sure what the Netherlands is like at the moment but I know that here in the UK our children will have less opportunities.

Good Luck with your decision and let us know what you decide.

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Old 20-06-2007, 06:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So glad you wrote this thread as I am having a really negative week, people saying wrong things to me about the move, making me worry. Taking the only grandchildren away age 2 and 1. Worried about missing my mum as I have never left her before and I'm 38 (maybe its about time I had the umbilical cord cut!) And we have only passed the TRA stage. Anyway on a positive note I am going for my children and they mean the world to me, and I am sure their life will be far better in sunny Oz!

Good luck to you and your family whatever choice you make, all the best.
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Old 20-06-2007, 09:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi , we too are worried , only at the tra stage. My aunt and uncle left on Sunday for retirement in Cyprus which was emotional. I felt sad,a nd then said you know this is selfish tears to my aunt you have worked all your life they could not have children, have had different health problems, so I wished them every happiness. I may not see them again if we get to oz, but I know they are following their dream AND EVERYONE NEEDS A SHOT AT FOLLOWING THEIR DREAM. It is hard for the ones you leave behind, but if they know it is for your future I am sure they will come around in the end. You can always come back!!!! Go with your gut instinct, it is usually the best one.
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Old 20-06-2007, 09:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank's for understanding. After two holidays we fell in love with Oz. Knowing that holidays is looking at the bright side of life, I'm wonder how it will be living and working in Oz.

We haven't found a place where we would like to settle down. We are thinking of first finding a job and that will also be the place to live.

Let me make a plus and minus list for the reasons to stay in Holland or to go to Oz:
Holland:
+ family & friends
+ good (paid) job
+ knowing your way around
- Crowded
- traffic jams
- not much outgoing
- bad weather

Oz:
+ outgoing
+ laid back
+ wild life and nature
+ nice weather
+ a prospers future for the bob
- starting from zero
- no relatives and friends
- to be a foreigner
- culture differences

Any suggestions?

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Hi and welcome to PIO. I think it's very normal to have doubts about such a big move, if you consider everything that can happen then your move is likely to succeed.

There are still traffic jams I'm afraid and a recognisable rush hour, but generally we've found life to be less stressful so far. Being a foreigner isn't so bad - it provides a talking point and can be a +.

Like others have said, you can always come out for a year and see if you like it, Australia's a big place and your first choice may not be where you end up, I've known some people struggle to settle and just moving to a different suburb has made a major difference.

My children are older than 'Bob' - but in the short time we have been here have told me that they are glad we came and that they feel happier here and like school better. I know it sounds cliched to say we came to give our kids a better future but when they turn around and tell you that it is better then it makes it all worth while.

Good luck with everything
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Agreeing with the others here - if you think it's right then it's worth a try and you will give yourself and family more options (particularly if you stayed long enough to get citizenship - giving Bob future options without the trauma of visa apps).

Also, to put a positive spin on your comments too - you wont develop family but give it time and effort and you will develop friends; as Ali says have a good sense of humour about it and being a foreigner can be a good thing (something like a third of Oz's pop are immigrants); the change in culture and way of life is a big reason for a lot of people to go; you can get a proprotionately well paid job too (sometimes after 'serving time' in your industry); you'll soon learn your way around.

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