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      Hope I can help. All up including medicals, migration agent (who we couldn't have done without) police checks etc it cost about $73,000. If your parents can possibly afford the upfront money which I realise is a lot it is really the best way to go. Please keep in touch as I would really like to know how it goes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jobo View Post
      Hi there, we are trying to pursuade our parents to apply for a CPV but they are reluctant because an agent said it would cost in the region of 55,000. they were expecting it to be abut 25,000...obviously it would depend on the exchange rate.

      without asking too much of a personal question...are you able to confirm how much you have spent getting the visa in AUD dollars? I thought i read on DIAC with was circaAUD $35,000 but are there additional costs, for instance if you need extra medica cover which would bump them up?

      Cheers

      Jo
      This is my story.....Hope it helps

      $35000 each ....then $14000 for assurance of support bond (which we gave our son) held for 10 years....then standard visa fee (I think ours was about 2000)....then agent about 2000, if used..then medicals, blood checks, exrays, police checks. If anything shows up on med there will be specialist fees. My oh had serious illness x 2 so we had extra fees for consultants etc.,. They also found something on my lung, which, after 3 more exrays and specialists, turned out ok ....total cost to us was 89000.

      We cannot go now without selling our home....we only have just over a year left on the visa and could lose it all if the housing market doesnt pick up. We have reduced priced and are about to reduce to the bear minimum at the end of June.

      Good Luck

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      We cannot go now without selling our home....we only have just over a year left on the visa and could lose it all if the housing market doesnt pick up. We have reduced priced and are about to reduce to the bear minimum at the end of June.

      Can you not just go and validate so you buy yourself some time?

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      Congratualtions on your future grandchild. Our son married a ozzie girl 15 years ago, (they have four children between the ages of 9 and 3) so we have been travelling back and forwards to oz for quite a few years. When my husband retired we had to decide where we wanted to be permanately (eventually we will be to old to travel) so in February we decide to apply on shore for a CPV. We had the medicals and police checks done, but thought it would be 12-18months before the visa would be granted. Before we returned as planned to the UK at the end of April we were informed that the visa would be granted in June. So we will be back in Oz 2nd June. All up it will have cost about $73,000. Hope this helps. Please keep me informed of your decisions.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post



      Can you not just go and validate so you buy yourself some time?
      Thanks for the suggestion Joanne. We validated 3 years ago. now in limbo with the house. cant rent has not got buy to rent mortgage and bank wont change ours. Thanks again x x x

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      thanks!

      thanks to Maisies and sioux for giving us an idea of the cost, I would hate for our parents to go into this with the wrong expectations. My dad does have a health condition (industrial asthma) so i reckon they may have to shell out on extra medical fees.

      It is alot of money but worth the investment if you can find the funds and the wait is so long the other way.

      I don't think they will do anything until me and my OH get PR, although my two other siblings have PR. I also think they may want to wait and see if the xchange rate improves that can make a significant diffrence when you are looking at thousands of dollars.

      I hope all goes well for you in June (Maisies) and I hope yor can sell your house for a good price soon (Sioux) so you can realise your dream.

      i'll keep you posted if we see any developments!

      Jo

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      Quote Originally Posted by Les Mighalls View Post
      Hi guys,

      FWIW, I got a Subclass 103 parent visa application through this week for a couple whose queue date was 03 December 2002 although the application was self-lodged about two years before that.

      That should give you an idea of the time line for a non-CPV application.

      Cheers,

      Les

      Hi Les

      Thanks for the post above.

      However, I fear that the likely waiting time has just doubled. Posh Slice has said:

      The 2010-11 Parent Migration program will consist of:
      1000 places for Parent category visas; and
      7500 places for Contributory Parent category visas

      Of these it is expected that in the Parent category, approximately 700 places will be allocated to Parent (Subcalss 103) visas and 300 places will be allocated to Aged Parent (Subclass 804) visas. In the Contributory Parent category, it is expected that approximately 7000 places will be allocated to Contributory Parent (Subclass 173 or Subclass 143) visas and 500 places will be allocated to Contributory Aged Parent (Subclass 884 or Subclass 864) visa.
      Pam (Posh Slice) got the information above from the Latest, Most Sparkly Contributory Parents thread on British Expats. I've read the relevant post, which is below:

      Contributory Parent Visa - Still Sparkling!!! - Part 4 - Page 10 : British Expat Discussion Forum

      The poster has obviously not invented the claim and anyone can check its veracity simply by sending an e-mail to parents@immi.gov.au

      I recall a passing mention about this before the axe fell on the Parent 103 and Aged Parent 804 visas. The Minister or somebody muttered that the latest contribution from the Australian Government Actuary has it that Parents of all hues allegedly cost Medicare etc a fortune.....

      Publications — Australian Government Actuary

      It was obvious that they would not wield an axe anywhere near the cash cows who are more commonly called Contributory Parents. I suspect that the AGA's new report might well be a pretext for ramping up the 2nd Instalment considerably come 1st July 2010, though. They can control the inflow and desirability of the cash cows by controlling how much money those cows have to spend, after all.

      The Budget said something about cutting 5,000 or so visa grants per year off the Family Stream. I think the idea was to balance an increase in skilled visas by chopping the number of Family Stream visas. It looks to me as if the Parents have copped it. The poor ones who simply cannot come up with the money might fail their medicals after a 20 year wait (if they haven't conveniently died of old age in the meantime.) The ones who could afford CPVs will be forced to get those instead.

      Apparently the present Minister is moving towards a situation in which increasingly wealthy Parents will be able to afford CPVs and the remainder will forget about moving to Australia except in their dreams.

      So - if you happen to be a young Aussie, with all your family around you, all of them Aussie Citizens, that is very convenient for you. If you are a young, skilled migrant of the type that the Minister claims that Australia needs, you can forget all ideas of immporting any of your family members as well unless they are rich, I suspect.

      Which is completely discriminatory for a Government that purports to eschew and to abhor discrimination. It is also a very crude attempt at social engineering and in my opinion the plus factor is that it is a moral disgrace into the bargain.

      Cheers

      Gill
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      Which is completely discriminatory for a Government that purports to eschew and to abhor discrimination. It is also a very crude attempt at social engineering
      For social engineering the UK Labour Party would be impossible to beat, flooding the UK with immigrants who they hoped would settle in England, vote Labour in appreciation and forever keep them in power. Just look where that has led.

      I don't think the Aussie Labor Party is actually about social engineering in their migration policy. Like the rest of the country they are far too middle class for that and quite reactionary.

      I hate to sound sympathetic towards the present government here, but can't help myself. They are caught in a bind where they have effectively lost control of the immigration numbers through no fault of their own and are feverishly trying to get that control back without getting too many vested interests offside. Not to mention keeping their union backers happy.

      The international student business of pumping the masses through low level courses is a 17 billion dollar industry which the government is loath to kill, but the numbers flowing through have got the unions paranoid.

      The net migration intake is keeping the property market buoyant and going against worldwide trends. No government wants to preside over a deflationary property market when there is a 3 year electoral cycle. Kill migration and in all likelihood property prices will fall. Yet property is spiralling out of reach of the young Aussie worker. A situation which leaves the politicians astride a cleft stick wrapped in barbed wire.

      Employers want skilled workers and don't really care where they come from but I remember a time several years ago when absolutely no-one was hiring apprentices. That is now coming home to roost.

      One final example about how useless governments are in forward planning. Many years ago the government here (I can't remember Lib or Labor... too long ago) started to fret about Medicare expenditure going up and decided the best way to control it was to choke off the supply of doctors in private practice and to do that they announced that no Provider Numbers (a pre-requisite for patients to claim medicare benefits) would be issued to new doctors going into private practice unless the did a Fellowship in General Practice first. The College of GPs was rapt as it extended their little empire but the smart cookies doing Med decided that if they had to do a Fellowship to go into general practice then they would do a Fellowship into a specialty instead and make lots more money. As a consequence the average age of your GP is about 50 and the government is chasing overseas graduates madly to make the numbers up leading to the sort of disasters like Patel in Queensland. In some places in Australia over 30% of GPs do not have English as a first language.

      From a purely political point of view the easiest and quickest area to cut the numbers back is Parent Visas, although I suspect substituted 676s will go up as a result. The decoupling of O/S student courses and PR visas will escalate and I suspect that in a couple of years most of the private colleges providing low level courses will have collapsed. Eventually I think the skilled migration program will be almost solely ENS with a small safety valve to give the government wiggle room.

      The difficulty the policy wonks in any government have is realising that they are not just dealing with numbers in an econometric analysis and calculation but that they are messing around with peoples lives.
      Les Mighalls BDS LLB(Hons) LDS FACLM, MARA Reg. No. 0639714
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      I am just wondering if anyone on here has experience of switchin from the normal 103 parent visa to a CPV 173 (temporary) or CPV 143 (permanent) and what this involved. Did you have to fill forms in again and pay another initial Visa application charge?

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      Hi Lynday Yes we started with a103 visa and then we transferred to a 143 visa. This was granted today. We had to fill in a new application form, we did not need to send in new certificates, thet used the ones we sent with the 103. We also had to pay the 1st vac over again. Good news though, our waiting time was taken for when we applied for the 103. It costs a fortune and it is hard slog, but it will be so worth it to be near our families. We realised that if we waited for the 103 we would be A too old B we would spend a lot visiting OZ. C we would miss our grandchildren growing up. Good luck and yes you will be doing the right thing. Phyllis

     

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