The Brand New PIO Parents Visa thread

I know that B.E. has their parent visa thread......why dont we have one?

All parent visa applicants.....here is your own thread in order to ask questions, chat, moan and groan....whatever you wish!

Good Luck to you all and looking fwd to hearing from you x

Bumping this up! Where are all our `parents`????

Great,will look forward to hearing from other parent,s wanting to get to oz...we will be able to pick your brains,hopefully to help keep us going on the journey to be with our family in oz .Were back in the u.k at the moment,mixed emotions missing so many things about u.k,but allso want to be with our family in oz,bet were not allone in our thinking ...

Hi

I think there is already a Contributory Parent Visa thread on here but hey we are willing to participate in anything to do with CPV. We have actually already applied for the normal parent visa but are thinking of switching to the CPV. We are just trying to work out the finances - will need to sell the house which is difficult in the current market and of course the exchange rate is not great.

Our biggest headache is trying to work out pensions and what and how to transfer these to Oz and whether we will be able to survive. Any thoughts or advice on this is welcome. We have already taken some professional advice but ended up more confused than ever!

We applied on shore for our CPV in February 2010. Had medicals and police checks done the same month. Thought it would take 12-18 months but before we returned to the UK in April, were informed that the visa would be granted in June as soon as we returned to Oz and paid our final payment.

we are like u dont know if we should go for cpv.because of the financial climate etc...would we be leaving ourselves short of money in the future....at our age 59 and 60 u couldnt earn that money back !!!

Vron

If you don't go for the CPV and end up on the normal parent visa your life will go on hold for a good few years waiting for that one to come through.

I know it's a lot of money for the CPV but we did it and moved here 19 months ago and we are 60 and 59.

I know we certainly would not put our lives on hold for the normal parent visa.

Good Luck with whatever you choose and Good Luck to everyone else on here

Caz

Hi guys,

FWIW, I got a Subclass 103 parent visa application through this week for a couple whose queue date was 03 December 2002 although the application was self-lodged about two years before that.

That should give you an idea of the time line for a non-CPV application.

Cheers,

Les

We applied on shore for our CPV in February 2010. Had medicals and police checks done the same month. Thought it would take 12-18 months but before we returned to the UK in April, were informed that the visa would be granted in June as soon as we returned to Oz and paid our final payment.

Hi there, we are trying to pursuade our parents to apply for a CPV but they are reluctant because an agent said it would cost in the region of £55,000. they were expecting it to be abut £25,000...obviously it would depend on the exchange rate.

without asking too much of a personal question...are you able to confirm how much you have spent getting the visa in AUD dollars? I thought i read on DIAC with was circaAUD $35,000 but are there additional costs, for instance if you need extra medica cover which would bump them up?

Cheers

Jo

Quote:

The 2010-11 Parent Migration program will consist of:

1000 places for Parent category visas; and

7500 places for Contributory Parent category visas

Of these it is expected that in the Parent category, approximately 700 places will be allocated to Parent (Subcalss 103) visas and 300 places will be allocated to Aged Parent (Subclass 804) visas. In the Contributory Parent category, it is expected that approximately 7000 places will be allocated to Contributory Parent (Subclass 173 or Subclass 143) visas and 500 places will be allocated to Contributory Aged Parent (Subclass 884 or Subclass 864) visa.

The above quote is from BE, assuming that its pukka, the time for a parent visa will be ridiculously long unless you are willing to do the contributory route.

Maisies, yours is the second onshore visa I've heard in the last few days that has gone through really quickly. It's a really tempting way to go, although I would need my husband with me as he is the 'aged' one.

We were out in Sydney in January/February this year and our daughter told us we were to be grandparents in July! So, I am going back in August to see the new one. Sadly, we cant afford two of us going again so quickly, but as its my birthday then (the big 60!) I got the trip!

It really seems if you can get the onshore option, you can do everything quickly.

Maisies, any info on the way you handled your application would be much appreciated.

Good luck to all in the various queues,

Pam

Hope I can help. All up including medicals, migration agent (who we couldn't have done without) police checks etc it cost about $73,000. If your parents can possibly afford the upfront money which I realise is a lot it is really the best way to go. Please keep in touch as I would really like to know how it goes.

Hi there, we are trying to pursuade our parents to apply for a CPV but they are reluctant because an agent said it would cost in the region of £55,000. they were expecting it to be abut £25,000...obviously it would depend on the exchange rate.

 

without asking too much of a personal question...are you able to confirm how much you have spent getting the visa in AUD dollars? I thought i read on DIAC with was circaAUD $35,000 but are there additional costs, for instance if you need extra medica cover which would bump them up?

 

Cheers

 

Jo

This is my story.....Hope it helps

$35000 each ....then $14000 for assurance of support bond (which we gave our son) held for 10 years....then standard visa fee (I think ours was about £2000)....then agent about £2000, if used..then medicals, blood checks, exrays, police checks. If anything shows up on med there will be specialist fees. My oh had serious illness x 2 so we had extra fees for consultants etc.,. They also found something on my lung, which, after 3 more exrays and specialists, turned out ok ....total cost to us was £89000.

We cannot go now without selling our home....we only have just over a year left on the visa and could lose it all if the housing market doesnt pick up. We have reduced priced and are about to reduce to the bear minimum at the end of June.

Good Luck

 

We cannot go now without selling our home....we only have just over a year left on the visa and could lose it all if the housing market doesnt pick up. We have reduced priced and are about to reduce to the bear minimum at the end of June.

 

Can you not just go and validate so you buy yourself some time?

Congratualtions on your future grandchild. Our son married a ozzie girl 15 years ago, (they have four children between the ages of 9 and 3) so we have been travelling back and forwards to oz for quite a few years. When my husband retired we had to decide where we wanted to be permanately (eventually we will be to old to travel) so in February we decide to apply on shore for a CPV. We had the medicals and police checks done, but thought it would be 12-18months before the visa would be granted. Before we returned as planned to the UK at the end of April we were informed that the visa would be granted in June. So we will be back in Oz 2nd June. All up it will have cost about $73,000. Hope this helps. Please keep me informed of your decisions.

 

 

 

Can you not just go and validate so you buy yourself some time?

Thanks for the suggestion Joanne. We validated 3 years ago. now in limbo with the house. cant rent has not got buy to rent mortgage and bank wont change ours. Thanks again x x x

thanks to Maisies and sioux for giving us an idea of the cost, I would hate for our parents to go into this with the wrong expectations. My dad does have a health condition (industrial asthma) so i reckon they may have to shell out on extra medical fees.

It is alot of money but worth the investment if you can find the funds and the wait is so long the other way.

I don't think they will do anything until me and my OH get PR, although my two other siblings have PR. I also think they may want to wait and see if the xchange rate improves that can make a significant diffrence when you are looking at thousands of dollars.

I hope all goes well for you in June (Maisies) and I hope yor can sell your house for a good price soon (Sioux) so you can realise your dream.

i'll keep you posted if we see any developments!

Jo

Hi guys,

 

FWIW, I got a Subclass 103 parent visa application through this week for a couple whose queue date was 03 December 2002 although the application was self-lodged about two years before that.

 

That should give you an idea of the time line for a non-CPV application.

 

Cheers,

 

Les

Hi Les

Thanks for the post above.

However, I fear that the likely waiting time has just doubled. Posh Slice has said:

The 2010-11 Parent Migration program will consist of:

1000 places for Parent category visas; and

7500 places for Contributory Parent category visas

 

Of these it is expected that in the Parent category, approximately 700 places will be allocated to Parent (Subcalss 103) visas and 300 places will be allocated to Aged Parent (Subclass 804) visas. In the Contributory Parent category, it is expected that approximately 7000 places will be allocated to Contributory Parent (Subclass 173 or Subclass 143) visas and 500 places will be allocated to Contributory Aged Parent (Subclass 884 or Subclass 864) visa.

 

 

Pam (Posh Slice) got the information above from the Latest, Most Sparkly Contributory Parents thread on British Expats. I've read the relevant post, which is below:

Contributory Parent Visa - Still Sparkling!!! - Part 4 - Page 10 : British Expat Discussion Forum

The poster has obviously not invented the claim and anyone can check its veracity simply by sending an e-mail to parents@immi.gov.au

I recall a passing mention about this before the axe fell on the Parent 103 and Aged Parent 804 visas. The Minister or somebody muttered that the latest contribution from the Australian Government Actuary has it that Parents of all hues allegedly cost Medicare etc a fortune.....

Publications — Australian Government Actuary

It was obvious that they would not wield an axe anywhere near the cash cows who are more commonly called Contributory Parents. I suspect that the AGA's new report might well be a pretext for ramping up the 2nd Instalment considerably come 1st July 2010, though. They can control the inflow and desirability of the cash cows by controlling how much money those cows have to spend, after all.

The Budget said something about cutting 5,000 or so visa grants per year off the Family Stream. I think the idea was to balance an increase in skilled visas by chopping the number of Family Stream visas. It looks to me as if the Parents have copped it. The poor ones who simply cannot come up with the money might fail their medicals after a 20 year wait (if they haven't conveniently died of old age in the meantime.) The ones who could afford CPVs will be forced to get those instead.

Apparently the present Minister is moving towards a situation in which increasingly wealthy Parents will be able to afford CPVs and the remainder will forget about moving to Australia except in their dreams.

So - if you happen to be a young Aussie, with all your family around you, all of them Aussie Citizens, that is very convenient for you. If you are a young, skilled migrant of the type that the Minister claims that Australia needs, you can forget all ideas of immporting any of your family members as well unless they are rich, I suspect.

Which is completely discriminatory for a Government that purports to eschew and to abhor discrimination. It is also a very crude attempt at social engineering and in my opinion the plus factor is that it is a moral disgrace into the bargain.

Cheers

Gill

Which is completely discriminatory for a Government that purports to eschew and to abhor discrimination. It is also a very crude attempt at social engineering

For social engineering the UK Labour Party would be impossible to beat, flooding the UK with immigrants who they hoped would settle in England, vote Labour in appreciation and forever keep them in power. Just look where that has led.

I don't think the Aussie Labor Party is actually about social engineering in their migration policy. Like the rest of the country they are far too middle class for that and quite reactionary.

I hate to sound sympathetic towards the present government here, but can't help myself. They are caught in a bind where they have effectively lost control of the immigration numbers through no fault of their own and are feverishly trying to get that control back without getting too many vested interests offside. Not to mention keeping their union backers happy.

The international student business of pumping the masses through low level courses is a 17 billion dollar industry which the government is loath to kill, but the numbers flowing through have got the unions paranoid.

The net migration intake is keeping the property market buoyant and going against worldwide trends. No government wants to preside over a deflationary property market when there is a 3 year electoral cycle. Kill migration and in all likelihood property prices will fall. Yet property is spiralling out of reach of the young Aussie worker. A situation which leaves the politicians astride a cleft stick wrapped in barbed wire.

Employers want skilled workers and don't really care where they come from but I remember a time several years ago when absolutely no-one was hiring apprentices. That is now coming home to roost.

One final example about how useless governments are in forward planning. Many years ago the government here (I can't remember Lib or Labor... too long ago) started to fret about Medicare expenditure going up and decided the best way to control it was to choke off the supply of doctors in private practice and to do that they announced that no Provider Numbers (a pre-requisite for patients to claim medicare benefits) would be issued to new doctors going into private practice unless the did a Fellowship in General Practice first. The College of GPs was rapt as it extended their little empire but the smart cookies doing Med decided that if they had to do a Fellowship to go into general practice then they would do a Fellowship into a specialty instead and make lots more money. As a consequence the average age of your GP is about 50 and the government is chasing overseas graduates madly to make the numbers up leading to the sort of disasters like Patel in Queensland. In some places in Australia over 30% of GPs do not have English as a first language.

From a purely political point of view the easiest and quickest area to cut the numbers back is Parent Visas, although I suspect substituted 676s will go up as a result. The decoupling of O/S student courses and PR visas will escalate and I suspect that in a couple of years most of the private colleges providing low level courses will have collapsed. Eventually I think the skilled migration program will be almost solely ENS with a small safety valve to give the government wiggle room.

The difficulty the policy wonks in any government have is realising that they are not just dealing with numbers in an econometric analysis and calculation but that they are messing around with peoples lives.

I am just wondering if anyone on here has experience of switchin from the normal 103 parent visa to a CPV 173 (temporary) or CPV 143 (permanent) and what this involved. Did you have to fill forms in again and pay another initial Visa application charge?

Hi Lynday Yes we started with a103 visa and then we transferred to a 143 visa. This was granted today. We had to fill in a new application form, we did not need to send in new certificates, thet used the ones we sent with the 103. We also had to pay the 1st vac over again. Good news though, our waiting time was taken for when we applied for the 103. It costs a fortune and it is hard slog, but it will be so worth it to be near our families. We realised that if we waited for the 103 we would be A too old B we would spend a lot visiting OZ. C we would miss our grandchildren growing up. Good luck and yes you will be doing the right thing. Phyllis

Hi Lynday Yes we started with a103 visa and then we transferred to a 143 visa. This was granted today. We had to fill in a new application form, we did not need to send in new certificates, thet used the ones we sent with the 103. We also had to pay the 1st vac over again. Good news though, our waiting time was taken for when we applied for the 103. It costs a fortune and it is hard slog, but it will be so worth it to be near our families. We realised that if we waited for the 103 we would be A too old B we would spend a lot visiting OZ. C we would miss our grandchildren growing up. Good luck and yes you will be doing the right thing. Phyllis

Thanks Phylis

Do you mind me asking how long you had been waiting on the 103 before you switched to the CPV?

We only applied for our 103 in March. I don't really relish having to pay another initial vac and filling in another form, especially as it's the same form and you just need to tick a different box. We were going to switch to the CPV a bit later on when we have the funds, but are worried that they might considerably increase the 2nd VAC on 1st July so had thought of applying for the temporary CPV to begin with. There has been some speculation about this on PIO. I have emailed the PPC with the same query, but they seem very slow to respond at the moment.

Hello,

I also have a question, I have read somewhere that when you switch from 103 to 143,the fee for the second instalement will be the same as when you have applied for 103 visa. I.e if you applied for 103 in 2008, when 2nd Instalment for 143 was only 30k, in 2010 you switch to 143 then the second instalment will still be 30 k..

Can you please confirm if that's the case?

Yes that is right I paid second vac, which was taken from the time of the 103 application. Hope this helps, I was on the waiting time on 103 for a year when I transfered to the 143, and I got a Case officer within weeks. Good luck Phyllis

We applied on shore for our CPV in February 2010. Had medicals and police checks done the same month. Thought it would take 12-18 months but before we returned to the UK in April, were informed that the visa would be granted in June as soon as we returned to Oz and paid our final payment.

How did you manage this, we applied in October 2009 from uk to live in Oz where our son lives, we have been told 12-14months before a case officer and then i suppose medical, and then 2 months approx for the go-ahead. Being in our 70s we are very confused with this. (Parent subclass 143 (Contributory Parent - Migrant). Have you any idea how long it is taking at the moment generally? Thanks Helen

....total cost to us was £89000.

 

 

Take it you mean $89000 not £89000?

JOHN