newjez Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Nope, he is still a Blairite. And they are as less electable than Corbyn. That is Labours problem. Go with an unelectable Blairite or an unelectable Corbyn. It is a lose lose.blairism isn't a million miles away from thatchism. It does appeal to alot of people. It's the sucking up to Bush and destruction of the middle East and the world economy that I object to. Speak of the devil, Thunderbird's are go! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/25/david-miliband-labours-move-to-the-left-is-a-mistake Edited February 25, 2017 by newjez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury61 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Iagree, they would be in power now if they had picked the other milliband, Labour have lost Scotland ,probably permanently ...thata 50 -60 seats . We would have to see a major shift to see labour back in power ,in what is ,in effect England and wales . N.ireland has its own parties ,and England is predominantly conservative . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Labour have lost Scotland ,probably permanently ...thata 50 -60 seats .We would have to see a major shift to see labour back in power ,in what is ,in effect England and wales . N.ireland has its own parties ,and England is predominantly conservative . no reason why they can't have a coalition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 no reason why they can't have a coalition With who? UKIP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury61 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 no reason why they can't have a coalition Tim farron and the 9 lib dem mps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Apparently Labour lost Copeland because Labour voters are less likely to have cars :laugh: funny, they seem to have managed to get to the ballot box for the last 80 years :goofy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) With who? UKIP? with SNP. Assuming Scotland is still with us when labour eventually get back to being a force to reckon with. 2024 or even 2028. Edited February 26, 2017 by newjez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Tim farron and the 9 lib dem mps ?it wouldn't surprise me if the lib dems took a lot of seats off labour, as will the conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 with SNP. Assuming Scotland is still with us when labour eventually get back to being a force to reckon with. 2024 or even 2028. Hahahahaha. Sat here in Scotland and the one thing I can say is that the only reason SNP get any votes is that they are slightly less hated than labour or Tory. But certainly not liked and that view is changing against them fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hahahahaha. Sat here in Scotland and the one thing I can say is that the only reason SNP get any votes is that they are slightly less hated than labour or Tory. But certainly not liked and that view is changing against them fast.Did you do a round trip to survey everyone in Scotland? Most of the stuff you put out is made up. How many seats do the SNP hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hahahahaha. Sat here in Scotland and the one thing I can say is that the only reason SNP get any votes is that they are slightly less hated than labour or Tory. But certainly not liked and that view is changing against them fast.so, are they voting lib dem or ukip in Scotland these days. You do make me laugh. A moderating clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockinTas Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Did you do a round trip to survey everyone in Scotland? Most of the stuff you put out is made up. How many seats do the SNP hold? Things must have changed since last year as the SNP's were voted in, in many areas. Dumfries and Galloway (my home town area) voted Conservative. http://www.bbc.com/news/election/2016/scotland/results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Things must have changed since last year as the SNP's were voted in, in many areas. Dumfries and Galloway (my home town area) voted Conservative. http://www.bbc.com/news/election/2016/scotland/results they are the largest party by far, but I expect all that will change as VS is in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Did you do a round trip to survey everyone in Scotland? Most of the stuff you put out is made up. How many seats do the SNP hold? They hold 56 of Scotland's 59 Westminster seats. Which is why it's very easy to forecast they are going to lose seats. The only hard bit to forecast is when. They may lose seats rapidly at the next general election or it may be 50 years time before they start losing them - but lose them they will because everything decays it's physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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