Shipbuilding

Hi,

I wanted to ask what's happening with shipbuilding? I am flirting with making another attempt at my visa. I was ill advised last yr and was rejected due to new rules imposed by engineers australia .

anyways I have come across a visa type aimed specifically at shipbuilding draftsperson.

I have been reading online and it's looks like shipbuilding in South Australia is on it's knees? Is this the case? Shipbuilding in the UK is actually as busy as it has been in a long time so Thought I would ask the question.

Thanks ?

Hi,

I wanted to ask what's happening with shipbuilding? I am flirting with making another attempt at my visa. I was ill advised last yr and was rejected due to new rules imposed by engineers australia .

anyways I have come across a visa type aimed specifically at shipbuilding draftsperson.

I have been reading online and it's looks like shipbuilding in South Australia is on it's knees? Is this the case?

Yes I believe so from what I hear in the news.

Definitely some projects going on, but the current government are sadly choosing to build a lot of its government ships and build the large part of their military ships & subs overseas. Very difficult to compete when ships are built for a fraction of the price in Singapore.

Examples:

Australia Research Vessel, built in Singapore; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Investigator

Australia Defence Vessel, built in Romania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADV_Ocean_Shield

Submarine Replacements, due to be built anywhere except Australia it seems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins-class_submarine_replacement_project

Todays News: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-16/naval-ship-building-in-australia-more-expensive-than-overseas/6395972

Incat in Tasmania are looking good: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-20/shipbuilder-incat-hiring-again-after-securing-new-contracts/5272806

Incat incidently are working with a UK company for the major refit of the Spirit of Tasmania ships.

Stay where you are. Shipbuilding along with most manufacturing activities in Australia are being destroyed on a weekly basis.

Thanks for the info. I would love to move to oz but the process just appears too expensive and difficult using my trade (draftsman). Quite frustrating really and we lost a fair bit on a failed visa attempt 18 months ago.

A work sponsor I think would be my best route but they are few and far between nowadays.

Thanks

Maybe some good news for SA at last?

• Prime Minister Tony Abbott to unveil $89 billion, 20-year defence shipbuilding program for SA
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  • PAUL STARICK CHIEF REPORTER - WITH AAP
  • THE ADVERTISER
    
    
  • AUGUST 04, 2015 3:32PM
    
    

   

   
   
   

   

  • Abbott to push for hundreds of jobs in SA
  • Future frigates our new defence battleground
    
    
  • 400 new SA jobs as NBN accelerates construction
    
    
  • Libs in strife in SA — Pyne ‘set to lose his seat’
    
    
  • More funds for manufacturers to go hi-tech
    
    

   

   
  PRIME Minister Tony Abbott has confirmed construction of new offshore patrol vessels will start in 2018 and new frigates in 2020 under a $40 billion plan for continuous shipbuilding in Australia.
  A restructured surface naval shipbuilding industry could be competitive and provide the best possible ships at the best possible price, he said today in Adelaide.From 2020 onwards there will be build-up to about 2500 workers employed continuously in surface naval shipbuilding and most of them will be in Adelaide.SA Liberal Senator Simon Birmingham said
  construction of the offshore patrol vessels would be brought forward by two years to 2018
  , while the frigates would start three years earlier, in 2020, in an attempt to lessen the impact of the so-called ‘Valley of Death’, in which contracts run out before new ones begin, leaving workers without jobs.“Further, we will invest an additional $1.2 billion into the delivery of the three world-class Air Warfare Destroyers (AWD) currently under construction,” he said.
   
  AN $89 billion program to build navy ships and submarines over 20 years, including a guarantee that future frigates will be built in Adelaide, is being announced by Prime Minister Tony Abbott today.The centrepiece of the Defence White Paper to be released within weeks, the historic spending on naval shipbuilding is aimed at creating a continuous program to replace the nation’s entire navy fleet.
  Senior government sources said the frigate construction at Outer Harbor’s ASC, formerly the Australian Submarine Corporation, was expected to create jobs and begin in the early 2020s.It is understood that government analysis shows the $89 billion program will sustain about 1000 jobs which otherwise would have been lost, by ending the boom/bust cycle which has afflicted the industry.Adelaide is also in line for more work building offshore patrol vessels as part of a process to be revealed today.Mr Abbott is in Adelaide for close to three days for a series of jobs announcements designed to improve the state’s
  8.2 per cent unemployment rate
  and boost the Liberals’ flagging political fortunes in South Australia.It is understood the naval shipbuilding program was approved yesterday by Cabinet’s National Security Committee and will go to a Cabinet meeting in Adelaide.The $89 billion naval shipbuilding spend is understood to comprise $39 billion for ships and $50 billion for submarines — the latter program now being contested between Germany, Japan and France ahead of a decision expected by Christmas.South Australian MPs have been urging Mr Abbott to keep a pre-election promise to build the submarines in Adelaide.
  
  The ships, the subs and the jobs.
   
   
  Mr Abbott told
  The Advertiser
  the continuous shipbuilding program was a long-term plan for a strong and sustainable industry.“This critical investment will generate significant economic growth and preserve South Australian jobs,” he said.
  “This strategy will transform Australia’s naval shipbuilding industry and put it on to a sustainable long-term path, giving the workforce certainty into the future.
   
  “It’s the first time any Australian government has committed to a permanent naval shipbuilding industry.”Mr Abbott attacked the former Labor government for creating the “valley of death” by failing to commission a single naval warship from an Australian shipyard during its six years in office.Defence Minister Kevin Andrews said the decision meant Australia’s “world-class shipbuilding workforce” would build the future frigates and offshore patrol vessels, along with other surface vessels.
  
  Beneath the first Air Warfare Destroyer, which was built in Adelaide. Picture: Calum Robertson
   
   
  “The future frigates will be built in South Australia,” he said.This is likely to trigger a split of ASC into shipbuilding and submarine arms, along with a partial privatisation involving the successful frigate builder.The Government analysis shows 2500 jobs will be sustained for a decade across Australia by the continuous shipbuilding program.But it will not stem the “valley of death” between projects which has resulted in another 100 ASC workers on the air warfare destroyer program losing their jobs, raising fears about the remaining 2500 workers at Osborne.However, speaking on radio this morning, Mr Abbott was optimistic for their future: “We will have up to 2500 ongoing jobs in surface naval shipbuilding so this is a very, very significant announcement,” he told FIVEaa.“While we can’t entirely avoid the valley of death, we can certainly fill some of it in with the announcement we’re making today.”Industry insiders said the awarding of the frigate project to SA would fuel speculation it was a consolation prize for missing out on submarines to Mr Abbott’s preferred Japanese option.Industry figures said German and French companies vying for the submarine deal had spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours on their bids and would be enraged if this was fruitless.But Mr Abbott told ABC 891 this morning that the submarines would be a “prize” for SA in some form.“The frigates are coming as the first prize, and one way or another, the subs will be coming as a further prize,” he said.“Whatever the competitive evaluation process ultimately comes up with, there will certainly be more submarine jobs in Australia. (But) we’ve got to get the right deal for Australia.”“You shouldn’t assume that the subs won’t happen here. When we get all those figures in, that’s when we’ll make a final decision.”Premier Jay Weatherill met Mr Abbott yesterday to discuss job-creation measures. This morning he applauded the Abbott government’s pledge to build future frigates in Adelaide.
   
  “This is a big win for South Australia,” Mr Weatherill told ABC 891.“We’ve been pursuing a continuous shipbuilding program. It’s a fantastic piece of news.”Asked about the state’s push to have future submarines built in Adelaide, Mr Weatherill said: “That’s something that we continue to pursue.”
   
  Air Warfare Destroyer Hobart sets sail
   
   

  

   
   
   
   
  Mr Abbott told a $500-a-head fundraising lunch for Make-A-Wish Australia at the Adelaide Entertainment Centre yesterday that SA had some particular issues — but he had particular faith and confidence in the state’s people.“If we can make another wish for this state it would be to see this state restored to being an economic powerhouse of our country,” he said.Federal Industry and Science Minister Ian Macfarlane yesterday revealed 15 SA companies had won almost $29 million funding in the first round of a $60 million program designed to accelerate private sector investment in non-automotive manufacturing.The 15 businesses will receive grants ranging from about $500,000 to almost $5 million, which are expected to generate about 430 jobs.

   

   

   

   

   

   

On the face of it, that sounds pretty awesome!

On the face of it, that sounds pretty awesome!

The Liberals made all sorts of promises before the elections...and then proceeded to break them.

This state desperately needs these type of jobs. Manufacturing and industry is suffering.

Very similar situation to what happened to British Leyland and British shipbuilding many years ago...it's cheaper to make things somewhere else.