Teachers Moving or Living in Australia

Hmm sounds promising!

For adding my defacto partner, aside from proving the genuine relationship (which we can), I'm wondering what will he need to complete so that we can start preparing.

Does he also need an Australian police check and a police check from our home country?

Anything else you can think of that we could begin to get ready?

Hmm sounds promising!

 

For adding my defacto partner, aside from proving the genuine relationship (which we can), I'm wondering what will he need to complete so that we can start preparing.

Does he also need an Australian police check and a police check from our home country?

 

Anything else you can think of that we could begin to get ready?

The secondary applicant will need to do medicals and police checks in due course. But if you have not started the process, these are not things that I would recommend you start with. In fact it is better to do them later. The immigration department advice is not to do not do them until specifically asked.

Anyway I will keep it short as this thread is about teaching not the visa application process, there is a migraion section of the forum that is best place for more generic visa questions.

Playitbyear - 8s are achievable but don't expect to do this without a little practice. Certainly Maths teachers are in demand along with science I would say. You would go into a pool situation (after application) and would need to be pulled out of the pool to be offered a job. Applying for registration is different to AITSL as this is purely for migration purposes. You will need to obtain registration through Western Australia Department of Education when you have a visa to be able to teach over here.

Hi Everyone!

Great posts here, and some very interesting timelines to get 189 granted!

 

I'm a secondary maths teacher (specialised 4 year degree)

I'm here on a WHV year 1, and have just posted my AITSL for a 189 visa

IELTS book first weekend in January - I need a score of 8 to get me 60 points as I have no paid experience

I have my EOI filled out to the point of needing my skills assessment so hopefully all going to plan I can have that lodged as soon as I receive my AITSL positive

 

Basically my WHV ends in March and I know I am really pushing it for time, but just wondering what any of you experienced people may think

I'm in Perth at the minute - is my position in demand? -Is obtaining an overall 8 in IELTS a tough feat? -Did you teachers wait long for invites?

 

All help and opinions welcomed and appreciated

 

:wub:

Without paid experience I a. Not sure you will pass the skills assessment.

Has it changed? You weren't required to have experience previously? You would be the equivalent of a grad over here surely?

New to this forum. I'm in the process of registering with Queensland to teach in the North of QLD. I have a three year BSc + PGCE plus 8 years experience teaching in secondary schools with various roles. My degree however is not in the subject I teach, which is fine in the UK. Has anyone had experience of this in Australia? Does your degree need to be in the subject you teach? Love to hear your about personal experiences.

New to this forum. I'm in the process of registering with Queensland to teach in the North of QLD. I have a three year BSc + PGCE plus 8 years experience teaching in secondary schools with various roles. My degree however is not in the subject I teach, which is fine in the UK. Has anyone had experience of this in Australia? Does your degree need to be in the subject you teach? Love to hear your about personal experiences.

Can't help with your question but I know a few teachers up in Cairns if you are moving that far North.

Any Poms teaching in QLD available to answer any questions???

Any Poms teaching in QLD available to answer any questions???

What_do_you_need_to_know?

Thanks Tina for responding.

I'm certain I'll get full registration with QCT. (( 4 year Aussie degree onus 15 years teaching in UK including senior positions)) NSW regards 5 years absence from NSW schools as a no go and put you back on STEP 1! I'm thinking of relocating to QLD and wanting to check my prior experience will be recognised. Today have corresponded with a special ed school in Brisbane who said he will offer me relief teaching . I just didn't go down the pay scale division!

Hi,

 I'm currently a Primary school teacher in the UK with 4 years experience and a 3 year BEd Hons in Primary Education with QTS.

I've started studying towards a MEd in inclusive education. In the school I'm currently in, there is a wide range of SEND children and I hope to become a SENCO/Special education teacher. I was looking at applying to be a SEN teacher as it is on the SOL once I have completed my masters. However, I have noticed that on the requirements to be a SEN teacher you need an additional 45 days supervised practice in a SEN role. As you're probably aware, they don't require this in the UK. 

I was wondering if there was anyone that has just had SEN teacher experience in the UK and has been able to waiver the 45 day supervised practice. 

Or whether any of you know a way of meeting the requirements. 

Thanks

On 17/04/2017 at 11:21 PM, Jlwalby said:

Hi,

 I'm currently a Primary school teacher in the UK with 4 years experience and a 3 year BEd Hons in Primary Education with QTS.

I've started studying towards a MEd in inclusive education. In the school I'm currently in, there is a wide range of SEND children and I hope to become a SENCO/Special education teacher. I was looking at applying to be a SEN teacher as it is on the SOL once I have completed my masters. However, I have noticed that on the requirements to be a SEN teacher you need an additional 45 days supervised practice in a SEN role. As you're probably aware, they don't require this in the UK. 

I was wondering if there was anyone that has just had SEN teacher experience in the UK and has been able to waiver the 45 day supervised practice. 

Or whether any of you know a way of meeting the requirements. 

Thanks

I can't answer specifically as I am a Secondary English teacher (from London, teaching in Sydney, 15 years experience). I have, however, run the gauntlet with AITSL, the federal body which is assigned the role of deciding which teachers enter the country and can proceed to applying for a visa. If my experience is anything to go by, in Australia, rules are rules. There will be no flexibility and they will not allow you through the AITSL gates unless you have exactly what they want - and have evidence (evidence, evidence, evidence) to prove what you claim. If you want to be in with a chance, you must get that experience before applying. Sorry, but AITSL is very, very rigorous. A word you will hear a lot out here is "compliance" - you'll need to comply with their requirements.

Good luck

agm

Sadly my response is the same as AGMs - they do things by the book when it comes to assessing you, you will not be able to get away without having done the required things, mainly because teaching is different here in terms of you are qualified to teach a very particular thing here and that is very different from the next - I was an SEN teacher in the UK, but my teaching qualification is as a Secondary School teacher of ICT - whilst I was allowed to teach in Primary schools (due to working as a Primary School Teacher in the UK for the 5 or so years before migrating I believe, one of those as an SEN teacher in a severe special needs school), I was not ever successful in applying for any SEN related position. I also used to do lots of Adult education in the UK - I am not allowed to do this here, as it comes under a totally different qualification and if you don't have the right bit of paper in Australia, you simply aren't allowed to do it.

I'm not up to date on the SOL and professions on it, but have you thought about getting a position as a primary school teacher in a mainstream school, perhaps playing on your SEN specialism, and ask to be sponsored? Not horrifically likely generally, as there are more teachers than jobs here, and its not very common to get a perm. position, short term to term or year to year contracts are far more normal, it depends on the location though.

Sorry I can't give you more positive news, good luck with whatever path you go down,

PP

Question 1: Is the announcement that the current 457 visa scheme will be replaced by a new visa scheme in March 2018 going to impact secondary math teachers? I understand that skills list will be reduced for sure.

Question 2: I keep reading that QLD has a demands for Math Teachers but when I search for Brisbane metro not much ever comes up. Let me guess...Regional QLD has the demand?

hello,

we are thinking of moving to Brisbane in the future. we are both teachers. i have contacted QCT for some advice on our quals etc but without understanding their system i dont really know if we qualify to register or not.

was hoping someone in a similar situation could help out.

my husband has a 3 year BA hons in music then went on to do a 2 year science/maths BSc non hons course at uni which also included gaining QTS. not the regular PGCE route of most teachers. he also has 4 years science teaching experience.

has anyone successfully registered with the QCT without a PGCE yet has QTS?

any advice at all greatly received.

thanks

6 hours ago, SCITEACH said:

hello,

we are thinking of moving to Brisbane in the future. we are both teachers. i have contacted QCT for some advice on our quals etc but without understanding their system i dont really know if we qualify to register or not.

was hoping someone in a similar situation could help out.

my husband has a 3 year BA hons in music then went on to do a 2 year science/maths BSc non hons course at uni which also included gaining QTS. not the regular PGCE route of most teachers. he also has 4 years science teaching experience.

has anyone successfully registered with the QCT without a PGCE yet has QTS?

any advice at all greatly received.

thanks

 

For AITSL, It's not the PGCE they care about but rather the number of days supervised teaching practice, that is at least 45, and at least 1 year full time (or equivalent part time) course. Because it lead to QTS that should mark it as an initial teacher training course, so as long as there is the prac requirement (this is really really key) he should be ok. As the requirements for QCT are either a 4 yr undergrad or a 1 year post grad ITT or a combination of the above, it would seem that you have that. Hope it goes well for you

1 hour ago, PositivePixie said:

For AITSL, It's not the PGCE they care about but rather the number of days supervised teaching practice, that is at least 45, and at least 1 year full time (or equivalent part time) course. Because it lead to QTS that should mark it as an initial teacher training course, so as long as there is the prac requirement (this is really really key) he should be ok. As the requirements for QCT are either a 4 yr undergrad or a 1 year post grad ITT or a combination of the above, it would seem that you have that. Hope it goes well for you

I'm a citizen and plan to sponsor him on an offshore partner visa. Does he still need quals verified by aitsl? From what I've read this could lead to hI'm having a permanent visa granted straight away but correct me if I'm wrong here.


Are you currently teaching there at the minute?

He's going on a reccie in August to speak to QCT re. Registration.

are u teaching in bris?

8 hours ago, SCITEACH said:

hello,

we are thinking of moving to Brisbane in the future. we are both teachers. i have contacted QCT for some advice on our quals etc but without understanding their system i dont really know if we qualify to register or not.

was hoping someone in a similar situation could help out.

my husband has a 3 year BA hons in music then went on to do a 2 year science/maths BSc non hons course at uni which also included gaining QTS. not the regular PGCE route of most teachers. he also has 4 years science teaching experience.

has anyone successfully registered with the QCT without a PGCE yet has QTS?

any advice at all greatly received.

thanks

 

Does he have an initial teaching qualification? In other words, as part of his second degree did he gain a teaching qualification that involved 45 days of supervised teaching as a student? This is critical to be accepted by any teaching registration board in Australia. Without it he is not eligible.

As you are sponsoring him on a partner visa, then he does not need to submit anything to AITSL, however, he will need to submit all qualifications to the teaching registration board in the state in which he plans to teach.

It is mandatory to have four years of university education (of which at least one year must be devoted to a teaching qualification). Your husband appears to fulfill the four year university requirement. However, the most important part now is whether he has the teaching qualification gained at a university AND that it involved the required 45 days supervision on prac and the teaching studies lasted at least one year.

3 hours ago, Sammy1 said:

Does he have an initial teaching qualification? In other words, as part of his second degree did he gain a teaching qualification that involved 45 days of supervised teaching as a student? This is critical to be accepted by any teaching registration board in Australia. Without it he is not eligible.

As you are sponsoring him on a partner visa, then he does not need to submit anything to AITSL, however, he will need to submit all qualifications to the teaching registration board in the state in which he plans to teach.

It is mandatory to have four years of university education (of which at least one year must be devoted to a teaching qualification). Your husband appears to fulfill the four year university requirement. However, the most important part now is whether he has the teaching qualification gained at a university AND that it involved the required 45 days supervision on prac and the teaching studies lasted at least one year.

He has definitely completed more than 45 days supervised practice. This was spread over the 2 year science course and inbuilt into it. 

I'm going to contact the uni he went to and double check though.

5 minutes ago, SCITEACH said:

He has definitely completed more than 45 days supervised practice. This was spread over the 2 year science course and inbuilt into it. 

I'm going to contact the uni he went to and double check though.

 

That's great, did one year (or spread over the two years to the total of one year's worth of study) of the degree count as initial teacher training?

16 minutes ago, Sammy1 said:

That's great, did one year (or spread over the two years to the total of one year's worth of study) of the degree count as initial teacher training?

To be honest I'm not sure. 

I can try and explain more clearly though!

The full course title was 'BSc Science with maths with QTS'

It was full time.for 2 years

In the first year he did some teaching practice days but the majority were done in the second year.

Throughout the 2 years he was studying science and maths then doing the teaching practice element. 

I've emailed the uni to ask if it is considered an ITT course. 

Just now, SCITEACH said:

To be honest I'm not sure. 

I can try and explain more clearly though!

The full course title was 'BSc Science with maths with QTS'

It was full time.for 2 years

In the first year he did some teaching practice days but the majority were done in the second year.

Throughout the 2 years he was studying science and maths then doing the teaching practice element. 

I've emailed the uni to ask if it is considered an ITT course. 

He didn't complete an entire years worth of teaching practice though within those 2 years

Hmmm, I am not sure to be honest. It sounds very promising though, especially as he completed the 45 days prac during the course. Also maths and science are always in demand.

A year of teaching practicums is not needed, just the minimum of 45 days supervised and including the year of initial teacher education.

7 minutes ago, Sammy1 said:

Hmmm, I am not sure to be honest. It sounds very promising though, especially as he completed the 45 days prac during the course. Also maths and science are always in demand.

 

A year of teaching practicums is not needed, just the minimum of 45 days supervised and including the year of initial teacher education.

I don't think I understand what the initial teacher education part is. He sat an exam on teaching studies if that's any help?

Thanks for the replies by the way.

Are you teaching there now?

Hi there,

I currently work in a SEN school and currently have 18 months experience there..  the problem is I'm teaching in a secondary school and my pgce was in primary education. I've been advised that I need 3 years experience in SEN before I apply for a visa, is this true??

many thanks in advance

bryony