Electronic instrument trades worker (342313) Skills Test

Hi all

I am a fire alarm technician currently living in the UK, and have been offered a 187 work sponsored visa for Western Australia. However, I firstly need to sit the above skills test, and would be grateful for any assistance/advice from anyone who has either sat it, or is in the process of doing so.

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer

Don :arghh:

Hi Don

hope someone comes along and helps you soon, as we need you all here with us :wacko:

Hi Don,

I undertook the skills assessment for the 342313 earlier this year with VETASSESS. I work as an AV engineer so it's a pretty broad category. I'm originaly from UK but living and working in the UAE at the moment and sat the assessment here. What would you like to know?

Matt

Hi Matt

Thank you for responding to my question. I would basically appreciate any information you could give me relating to the exam as I have no idea what to expect or revise, i.e. is it all a theory exam, and if so what the questions related to, or is it more a practical exam, and again, if so, what it was based on.

I find that because both our jobs, which relate to completely different trades, come under the same Skills Test, I have absolutely no idea where to begin with revision.

Any information you can provide will be gratefully appreciated, as we, as a family, are desperate to emigrate to Australia to be with my brother and his family.

Thank you

Don

Hey Don,

I'll try help you as best I can by detailing my experience. I applied back in February to VETASSESS for the assessment of the Electronic Equipment Trades Worker category. Like you said we are completely different trades but this was the one that closely matched my trade. I have a good understanding of AV, basic electronics but no nothing of fire alarm systems. You probably no nothing of AV, have basic knowledge of electronics and a good understanding of fire alarm systems.

The first step after completing the online TradeSET report was to apply for the initial Training and Employment Check. For me this meant sending evidence of my employment and education history, photographic evidence and case studies of me working in the field (for which there were a few cheesy posed photos) and example day-to-day work documents. Once this has been submitted they will decide if you are a Level 1, 2 or 3.

Level 1 = Successful and recommended to proceed to assessment.

Level 2 = Optional, you may proceed to assessment however caution is recommended.

Level 3 = Unsuccessful, not enough evidence to progress.

I received a Level 2 outcome which was a bit disappointing but decided to proceed anyway. The next step for me was to arrange the Technical Interview. Once paid for they asked me to attend one of their regional offices to have the interview. They gave me a date and time and sat me in front of a computer with some video conferencing software to be interviewed by one of their assessors based in Australia. They asked me basic questions about my work and education and then proceeded to show me 10 slides (iirc). Usually the slide would consist of a circuit diagram or a piece of electronic apparatus and they would ask what it may be used for or how I would go about troubleshooting it if it was faulty. The key here is to mention a lot of health and safety points, eg. first isolate power supply before opening the box, double check with voltmeter, etc. Also there were some questions on wireless networks, types of cable/connectors (RJ45, RJ11, etc.) used. I think the whole interview lasted around 90 minutes. I was a bit panicked at first, (it's an expensive test which you don’t want to fail) but relaxed after a while and the assessor was very good at guiding me to the correct answer. I don't mean that that he outright told me the right answer but if he could see I was struggling he might ask additional questions which would help derive me to the correct answer. I was a bit vague on some of the basic electronics stuff. Some of it I haven't had to use since school / uni days but I did some reading on the basics of resistors, capacitors, transistors, rectifiers, ac, dc circuits and all that sort of stuff before the interview which helped jog my memory.

That was my experience with the technical interview anyway. As I haven't spoken to anyone else who has sat the same I have nothing to compare it to. Fortunately I passed the technical interview and no further assessment was required. I believe if they are unsure they can also ask you to Practical assessment. I didn't have to do this so I don't know anything about it.

I am currently applying for the 189 independent visa as I like the idea of being able to work where I want to. You can see from my signature roughly how long each step has taken so far. It is a long process and we have just recently been assigned a Case Officer for which we are now undergoing medicals and submitting evidence to. Hopefully we are almost at the stage of being granted the visa!

Thanks Ann, Lee lee, shauney and Daniel we will join you ASAP (God Willing) well Immigration willing

Hi Matt

Thank you so much for the detailed and frank response, after reading this I feel a lot more confident to proceed further, although I think I need to brush up on my resistors and A/C and D/C circuits

Regards Don

hi bro ,

i received as same trade electronic equipment tradeswork which the employment and training outcome received level 2 , but ask me to proceed the skill assessment technical interview for the next stage , kindly need ur help on this time , what are all the chapters need to prepare my self , can u help to give some tips which is more useful for me to succeed . is its tough time or normal interview ?am looking forward your reply ..thx mathew

Hey Don,

 

I'll try help you as best I can by detailing my experience. I applied back in February to VETASSESS for the assessment of the Electronic Equipment Trades Worker category. Like you said we are completely different trades but this was the one that closely matched my trade. I have a good understanding of AV, basic electronics but no nothing of fire alarm systems. You probably no nothing of AV, have basic knowledge of electronics and a good understanding of fire alarm systems.

 

The first step after completing the online TradeSET report was to apply for the initial Training and Employment Check. For me this meant sending evidence of my employment and education history, photographic evidence and case studies of me working in the field (for which there were a few cheesy posed photos) and example day-to-day work documents. Once this has been submitted they will decide if you are a Level 1, 2 or 3.

 

Level 1 = Successful and recommended to proceed to assessment.

Level 2 = Optional, you may proceed to assessment however caution is recommended.

Level 3 = Unsuccessful, not enough evidence to progress.

 

I received a Level 2 outcome which was a bit disappointing but decided to proceed anyway. The next step for me was to arrange the Technical Interview. Once paid for they asked me to attend one of their regional offices to have the interview. They gave me a date and time and sat me in front of a computer with some video conferencing software to be interviewed by one of their assessors based in Australia. They asked me basic questions about my work and education and then proceeded to show me 10 slides (iirc). Usually the slide would consist of a circuit diagram or a piece of electronic apparatus and they would ask what it may be used for or how I would go about troubleshooting it if it was faulty. The key here is to mention a lot of health and safety points, eg. first isolate power supply before opening the box, double check with voltmeter, etc. Also there were some questions on wireless networks, types of cable/connectors (RJ45, RJ11, etc.) used. I think the whole interview lasted around 90 minutes. I was a bit panicked at first, (it's an expensive test which you don’t want to fail) but relaxed after a while and the assessor was very good at guiding me to the correct answer. I don't mean that that he outright told me the right answer but if he could see I was struggling he might ask additional questions which would help derive me to the correct answer. I was a bit vague on some of the basic electronics stuff. Some of it I haven't had to use since school / uni days but I did some reading on the basics of resistors, capacitors, transistors, rectifiers, ac, dc circuits and all that sort of stuff before the interview which helped jog my memory.

 

That was my experience with the technical interview anyway. As I haven't spoken to anyone else who has sat the same I have nothing to compare it to. Fortunately I passed the technical interview and no further assessment was required. I believe if they are unsure they can also ask you to Practical assessment. I didn't have to do this so I don't know anything about it.

 

I am currently applying for the 189 independent visa as I like the idea of being able to work where I want to. You can see from my signature roughly how long each step has taken so far. It is a long process and we have just recently been assigned a Case Officer for which we are now undergoing medicals and submitting evidence to. Hopefully we are almost at the stage of being granted the visa!

Hi dong,

I hope you don't mind me hijacking your thread, but I am in the same industry as you and also concerned about the test... Have you taken it yet and if so what was in it. I would really appreciate any news.

cheers

Justin

Dear Matte,

Me to living in Dubai, i need you help can you give me your contact number or mail id.

Hi

Anyone who have done Electronic instrument trades worker (342313) Skills Test recently, I still have very little idea what to expect as i will be sitting for this assessment in some weeks time. Anyone who can help or share his/her experience with me will be of my great help.

regards

Ron

sorry i forgot to menstion i am a technical broadcast assistant

Hi Dalton

I am preparing for Electronic instrument trades worker (342313) technical interview in shanghai ,china 12th Feb.

How is your test? Have you taken it yet and if so what was in it. I would really appreciate any news.:hug:

regards

zhang

Hi Dalton

I am preparing for Electronic instrument trades worker (342313) technical interview in shanghai ,china 12th Feb.

How is your test? Have you taken it yet and if so what was in it. I would really appreciate any news.:hug:

regards

zhang

hi Sorry i still haven't . ill will let you know once i m done.

regards

Ron

my job is to maintain the in-flight entertainment system

342313 is like a large job group

some of the competency units on fact sheet are beyond my scope

can you understand all units:cry:

thanks

my job is to maintain the in-flight entertainment system

342313 is like a large job group

some of the competency units on fact sheet are beyond my scope

can you understand all units:cry:

thanks

ill let u knw whn i m finish

Hi guys,

Seen this is an old post, however i am just about to go through the motions of aplying for a 189 visa in Fire & Security. I am about to book my trade exam but cant find any helpful info on the process of the verbal or practical tests. Vetassess has PDF docs but only give info for plumbers, sparkys etc to revise.

I have only worked in the fire & security industry and not VCR/Radio/T.V repair and from what i can make out this exam could possibly be on all aspects?!

Can you guys give me any info on what questions you were asked and basically what happened in doth exams please.

Also did you guys find any websites etc to use to swat up for the test?!

Thanks guys if you can help!

Hi guys,

 

Seen this is an old post, however i am just about to go through the motions of aplying for a 189 visa in Fire & Security. I am about to book my trade exam but cant find any helpful info on the process of the verbal or practical tests. Vetassess has PDF docs but only give info for plumbers, sparkys etc to revise.

 

I have only worked in the fire & security industry and not VCR/Radio/T.V repair and from what i can make out this exam could possibly be on all aspects?!

 

Can you guys give me any info on what questions you were asked and basically what happened in doth exams please.

 

Also did you guys find any websites etc to use to swat up for the test?!

 

Thanks guys if you can help!

Hi Adam,

It's been a few years now since I did this but I'll try and list some topics below based on my experience:

Connectors - Commonly used AV (RCA, HDMI, VGA etc), networking (RJ11, RJ45, etc), power (3P and 1P)

Electronic components - Resistors, capacitors, transistors, ICs

Health and safety - What to do to minimise harm, electric shocks, etc in the workplace

Try to have several workplace examples up your sleeve for when you might have faced a hazardous situation, had to repair something or installed something new as I'm sure you will get asked to detail a few of these.

The only thing I really needed to brush up was basic electronic components and circuitry as I haven't really studied it since my school days. I did have one question related to installing a commercial fire alarm system. I think it was something along the lines of how would I go about installing one. I have no experience with fire alarm systems but I told the assessor that I'd assume there would be one or more sensors that would have to be connected, perhaps by a network, to a central control unit. That unit may then require a connection to a telephone line and would also have to be powered. I can't remember exactly what I said as I kinda bluffed my way through it.

It is strange that Fire safety and AV have been grouped together in the same category. I haven't yet met anyone in my industry that specialises in both. My assessor was good though and didn't really ask me any unreasonable questions. Whether they tailor the questions to your previous work experience I don't know.

Unfortunately I don't think you'll find any all-in-one study resources. Your best just to closely analyse the 342313 category and try and look up the basics for anything listed within it.

Sorry I can't be of any more help. Good luck and hope it all goes well for you.

Thank you for replying matte helps a lot mate.

I feel a bit more relaxed now as im not going in blind. I take it it is more of a chat rather than an interrogation?

Looking forward to starting the process before Australia rebel to the changes of what the UK have put in place for Aussie workers!

Thanks again

Thank you for replying matte helps a lot mate.

 

I feel a bit more relaxed now as im not going in blind. I take it it is more of a chat rather than an interrogation?

 

Looking forward to starting the process before Australia rebel to the changes of what the UK have put in place for Aussie workers!

 

Thanks again

Yep, mine didn't really feel like an interrogation. I think it lasted an hour all in all about the first 15 minutes of that was just him introducing himself and explaining what was going on. To be honest I felt far more awkward at the speaking component of my IELTS exam - Not sure if you have done that yet or are going down that route. I only did the IELTS to boost my score by 10 points. I felt kind of stumped when the assessor asked me what I enjoyed most about being at primary school. English is my first language which I have spoken all my life, in fact I'm awful at speaking other languages but I mean come on, these days I can barely remember my teenage years let alone my time at primary school. I think I answered with a couple of sentences (something about enjoying playtime) and then the assessor just stared at me with an awkward silence for the next couple of minutes or so trying to get me to elaborate. The whole time I was thinking 'ask me a a proper question!!'

I understand where your coming from on the visa changes. The current Aussie government is just milking and milking the visa system to try and make up the debt left by the previous government. They see it as easy money. They have already over doubled the cost of some visas in the last few years (most noticeably the foreign spouse visa for Australian citizens). We ourselves have been impacted by the circus surrounding the 103 parent visa which is now not even worth applying for as most parents will likely be deceased before it's granted. (Wait time has increased from about 7 years to 30 years). Now the only option is the contributory parent visa that costs around $100,000 for a couple which is unaffordable for most.

Hi Adam,

I've finally stumbled across someone who is in the same industry as me looking to emigrate to Australia and stuck with the assessment process. How far have you got with your application? I'm struggling a little with the need for a cover sheet based on the units of competency. Most of them just don't seem you link with what I do, I mean I can fault find a DC circuit, but if something goes wrong we just replace the part ie sounder extender card, PSU etc. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Jamie

Hi Matt,

I am in Brissie cleared the Vettasses stage 1 and proceeded to stage 2 which is a technical interview. I would like to discuss on that as I am a Video Conference engineer with AV experience.

Would you be happy to share or call my mobile number in ########?

I presume you are in GC..

Cheers,

Raj

Hey Don,

 

I'll try help you as best I can by detailing my experience. I applied back in February to VETASSESS for the assessment of the Electronic Equipment Trades Worker category. Like you said we are completely different trades but this was the one that closely matched my trade. I have a good understanding of AV, basic electronics but no nothing of fire alarm systems. You probably no nothing of AV, have basic knowledge of electronics and a good understanding of fire alarm systems.

 

The first step after completing the online TradeSET report was to apply for the initial Training and Employment Check. For me this meant sending evidence of my employment and education history, photographic evidence and case studies of me working in the field (for which there were a few cheesy posed photos) and example day-to-day work documents. Once this has been submitted they will decide if you are a Level 1, 2 or 3.

 

Level 1 = Successful and recommended to proceed to assessment.

Level 2 = Optional, you may proceed to assessment however caution is recommended.

Level 3 = Unsuccessful, not enough evidence to progress.

 

I received a Level 2 outcome which was a bit disappointing but decided to proceed anyway. The next step for me was to arrange the Technical Interview. Once paid for they asked me to attend one of their regional offices to have the interview. They gave me a date and time and sat me in front of a computer with some video conferencing software to be interviewed by one of their assessors based in Australia. They asked me basic questions about my work and education and then proceeded to show me 10 slides (iirc). Usually the slide would consist of a circuit diagram or a piece of electronic apparatus and they would ask what it may be used for or how I would go about troubleshooting it if it was faulty. The key here is to mention a lot of health and safety points, eg. first isolate power supply before opening the box, double check with voltmeter, etc. Also there were some questions on wireless networks, types of cable/connectors (RJ45, RJ11, etc.) used. I think the whole interview lasted around 90 minutes. I was a bit panicked at first, (it's an expensive test which you don’t want to fail) but relaxed after a while and the assessor was very good at guiding me to the correct answer. I don't mean that that he outright told me the right answer but if he could see I was struggling he might ask additional questions which would help derive me to the correct answer. I was a bit vague on some of the basic electronics stuff. Some of it I haven't had to use since school / uni days but I did some reading on the basics of resistors, capacitors, transistors, rectifiers, ac, dc circuits and all that sort of stuff before the interview which helped jog my memory.

 

That was my experience with the technical interview anyway. As I haven't spoken to anyone else who has sat the same I have nothing to compare it to. Fortunately I passed the technical interview and no further assessment was required. I believe if they are unsure they can also ask you to Practical assessment. I didn't have to do this so I don't know anything about it.

 

I am currently applying for the 189 independent visa as I like the idea of being able to work where I want to. You can see from my signature roughly how long each step has taken so far. It is a long process and we have just recently been assigned a Case Officer for which we are now undergoing medicals and submitting evidence to. Hopefully we are almost at the stage of being granted the visa!

hello all,

Can any one help me for occupation selection.

I am working as service engineer in inverter company (i.e. power backup for home appliances). Can I apply for Electronics equipment trade worker-342313 ?

As this specialization s not mention in requirement for 342313.

kindly help, thanks a lot in advance. 

Hi Amit,

It's hard to comment on if this is the right ANZSCO for you, if you're not sure then I would seek the advise of a migration agent. I'm a maintenance engineer for a fire alarm company, and this was the correct category for me. What I can say is that it's very broad, ranging from TV repairer to fire alarm/security engineer. Have you looked at ther fact sheet for the occupation on the Vetassess website? This is who you'll have your skills assessed with if you're in the UK, think it differs depending on where you reside.

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