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Old 18-05-2008, 11:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

Clyde and I are looking at the considerations involved in deciding when to start a family.

Logic says we will take advantage of the U.K. system (maternity benefits etc.). I would return to work in order to fulfill my obligations before we move to Aus.

We dont have family close by here so dont have support with child care and a support network around us. How is it in Australia? Do folks help each other out? Are the nurserys good? Are they registered like the agents to make sure you get a good one.

We know becoming 3 changes everything but will we have family time or will we work and never see each other like we would here?

Our post might seem a little naive, but we haven't walked in these shoes before.

Hope you can help and thanks for reading!
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Old 19-05-2008, 12:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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We brought up two kids here without any family support network and it wasnt easy. I probably wouldnt have used the family support network that we had had at home either but just knowing they were there would have been enough.

Didnt find there to be terribly much support from other families although there was a baby sitting collective where we were - our social group were mainly students at the time so we were all strapped for cash. That was many years ago and I am not sure how strong those sorts of things are now with people being very cautious about "odd folk" out there. As more families now are double income families, there is a degree more insularity - it was very hard working in schools for example to get a huge parent contribution to volunteer work in the classroom as most parents were out at work. You do get the occasional play date thing going on but, again, parents do like to know where their kids are visiting. Before and after school care programs are usually very well patronised.

Child care centres are all regulated and are pretty good IMHO. They can be expensive but if you have PR then there are rebates which are means tested. I am not convinced that maternal and child health options are that great but they are state responsibilities and vary from place to place (I dont think ours is very good for example).

There are moves afoot for improving the maternity leave provisions but at the moment they arent great unless you work for the government and I have no idea what impact any changes will have on the prospective employment for young women of child bearing age (no one has any idea but my guess is that employers will look differently on young women if they have to deal with paid maternity leave issues - I dunno)
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Old 19-05-2008, 06:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Quoll,

Thanks for response. Sounds similar to the situation here and doesn't look like we will be better off here or there!

Ho Hum.....any other experiences/comments welcome from all of you guys living it would be great!

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Hi Bonnie

This is a really good website for all baby related questions in Aus - The Bub Hub go to the forum link, there are some really helpful people there. There are lots of mums groups and meet ups on there and lots of people who have moved away from their families.

Im not sure if the aussie government are still doing it but they were giving new parents a lump sum of about £1000.

Having a child is a big thing, but if you have no help or support in the UK then why not be in Aus, I personally think it's a great place to bring up a child.

Good luck whatever you decide.

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Hi Bonnie

This is a really good website for all baby related questions in Aus - The Bub Hub go to the forum link, there are some really helpful people there. There are lots of mums groups and meet ups on there and lots of people who have moved away from their families.

Im not sure if the aussie government are still doing it but they were giving new parents a lump sum of about £1000.

Having a child is a big thing, but if you have no help or support in the UK then why not be in Aus, I personally think it's a great place to bring up a child.

Good luck whatever you decide.

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Yup baby bonus of $5000 means tested now from the latest budget. Maternity leave arrangements arent good though if you are a working mum.
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Yup baby bonus of $5000 means tested now from the latest budget. Maternity leave arrangements arent good though if you are a working mum.
Hi Quoll,

Just wondered what the maternity leave entitlement was in Aus?

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It really all depends on who your employer is. Govt employees have it best - I think you get 12 weeks paid maternity leave providing you have been employed for at least 12 months beforehand and you can take up to a year leave without pay. Otherwise I think it is just that you can take the 52 weeks unpaid leave providing you have been with the employer for 12 months beforehand. There is considerable discussion at the moment about paid maternity leave but that would put huge pressure on small businesses so nothing has been decided yet. At one stage they were mooting a maternity tax/levy on all tax payers, like Medicare but there was a bit of an outcry about that as well.

According to all the charts see here we dont do very well with our maternity leave provisions on a world scale.
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Thanks to you both for your input. Will check out that web site Angelcake....On nights at the mo and v tiredso will look later in the week!

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