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Old 08-01-2008, 02:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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457 Skills Assesment Query

Hi All

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Husband has been offered a Job in Perth, The sponsor has appointed a Migration Agent for us. Meds, Xrays Booked. Visa Applied on 18th Dec. Do we need to have his skills assessed? He is a Flat Glass Trades Person so it would br TRA, We originally thought that as he has already sent his certificates and quals to employer and agent we would not have to have them assessed.?

Can anyone help?

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Old 08-01-2008, 02:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Welcome to PIO

We came over to Perth in August last year on a 457 visa thro my husbands work. He did not have to be skills assessed, we basically just filled in the application forms, he had to do a CV and Statement basically outlining why he matched the job requirement ie experience, working for company for 20 years etc. We got our visa through in about 4 weeks.

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Hi All

First Post, here goes...

Husband has been offered a Job in Perth, The sponsor has appointed a Migration Agent for us. Meds, Xrays Booked. Visa Applied on 18th Dec. Do we need to have his skills assessed? He is a Flat Glass Trades Person so it would br TRA, We originally thought that as he has already sent his certificates and quals to employer and agent we would not have to have them assessed.?

Can anyone help?

Thanks Dawn
Hi and welcome to PIO, i am out here on a 457 visa and didnt need skills assessment either as they dont do skills assessment with 457 visa they go from your work experiences and any certificates you have got over your career line etc so long as you have been with a company for 3 years or more in the jobline he is going for, hope this helps and good luck with it all
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Thank's for that , Thats what we had originally thought. Hope to be in touch Soon. x
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Hi Dawn & Family

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

Errm. I'm not persuaded by the advice you have been offered.

Basically, if Hubby's skills have not been assessed before you go to Oz then you will not be able to upgrade to a PR visa unless either Hubby gets a skills assessment whilst he is in Oz or he has spent 2 complete years working in Oz onthe 457 visa.

Because of the need to prove his chain of employment and so on (and to get refereces from satisfied customers etc if he has been self-employed) it tends to be far easier to get all the evidence together before one leaves for Oz. By remaining inthe UK until the skills assessment is complete, one is also in a better position to obtain additional evidence etc should it be required by TRA.

Billy braveheart on here is a brickie and he was in an identical delimma a little under a year ago. One of the volunteer Migration Agents who helps out with this forum advised him strongly that he should secure a TRA assesment before applying for the visa.

That was done and Billy passed it at the first attempt. The 457 was granted and the family then went to Perth. They had only been there for 3 months on probabation, as agreed with Bily's sponsor/employer, before they were able to get the ball rolling towards their ENS PR visa, which will probably be granted sometime around July 2008.

Apart from the advantage of obtaining PR at an earlier stage, this has other implications as well. It is a lot easier and cheaper to buy a house if one has PR because PRs get financial breaks with the house-buying process which are not available to those with Temporary Residence only.

As far as I know (but you would need to check) WA does not charge school fees forthe children of Temporary Residents but NSW, for instance, does and apparently the cost is around $5,000 AUD per annum per child.

Britons with Temporary Residencein Oz do get restricted rights to Medicare under the Reciprocal Health Care Agreement betwen the UK and Oz, but this only extends to the provision of "necessary" medical services. Anything which is not medically essntial would have to be paid for privately and so forth. PRs get immediate access to full Medicare.

Of course it suits the employer and their Migration Agents to gloss over these details because they want Hubby out in Oz asap, using his skills to the employer's advantage. It is of no consquence to the employer or his Agent if you end up with aless favourable overall "package" than you might otherwise have been able to secure.

For instance, with a successful TRA assessment under his belt Hubby would be in a better positin to insist that the employer helps him to upgrade to PR quickly - if that is agreed then it should be an express term of the Contract, set out in writing and signed for by both parties.

Some people are in a situaton where a successful TRA assessment would not be possible - for instance where the person has no formal qualifications in his/her field. OK - those people have a choice about whether or not they are willing to risk two years minimumin Oz without Permanent Residence or necessarily even any pronmise of it.

Others, such as Billy, are in a stronger position before they ever commit themselves to going to Oz.

I think you should take a step back and investigate ALL the potential implications of your options before you allow anyone to rush you into anything,

Best wishes

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Hi Gill -Thanks verymuch for the advice. We are already now in the 457 process. We will however seek a TRA assesment separate to this, before we leave. We are not looking to move until April/ May as we have a house and Newsagents to sell, so no flights booked yet. We have no idea where we will end up in Perth, employer has said that they would find temp accomadation. I would only take this for a short period though, as I want to investagate all areas plus find a suitable nice safe place to raise 3 young boys! Want list to include -BEACH -VILLAGE-SMALL SCHOOL (UK school 69 pupils) might get a shock though and ready for everything!!!! Cant Wait
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