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Old 06-02-2008, 11:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think you will find that us lot on Poms In Oz are very understanding to peoples problems,us moderators are here to help as much as we can,however as Tim has said some companys insist their name is blanked out ,unfortunately it is beyond our control,im sure you would agree that you wouldnt want to pay the bill when we are sued!Tim should not have to pay either really should he?unfortunately thats life!!!
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p.s ,,i have just seen their name in your original post,not sure if you added it after Tim edited but i will have to go and remove it,sorry ,
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I wouldnt be that petty to go back and edit something after some-one had already changed it!!!! And please note there are lots more you have missed, so you obviously need to go through them again!!
Does THAT shipping company still advertise through this forum?????????
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Just wanted to remind anyone who is thinking of moving over here,or are in the process of having quotes from Shipping companies...PLEASE learn from our experiences..Don't use *********!!! They are useless, and its still just as bad once the container arrives over here. They,ve had our container sat in their depot since 7th December, it still hasnt been custom or quarantine checked and they still dont know when it will be, because apparently we're in a big line of others, all just sat there waiting!!! I know we've had xmas and new year, but have spoken to people who have used the likes of Crowne and Pickfords and they arrived after us and have already got their stuff!!! and more to the point they were kept informed all the way through the process, we ring, get told they'll ring back and they never do!!!! We paid alot of money for *********, thinking they had a good name but boy was we wrong!!
Thanks for the support you gave us last time when we first posted our thread about *********, we just dont want anyone else to go through what we have, we thought what happened in the u.k with them was bad enough, but they're taking the mick now. Apparently the groupage will arrive 11th January...seeing is believing ay???? Still cant believe they split my stuff up like that (anyone who is reading this and hasnt got a clue what i'm on about them please read first thread>>>"Don't Use ********"

Anyway thanks for listening to me moaning!!!!

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Sorry to hear you are having such a rotten time with these people at what I am sure is a stressful enough time as it is. I think Crown will be getting our custom people on here seem to swear by them.
I hope things get better for you very soon.

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Old 06-02-2008, 11:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hi Tracey

my sympathies are with you, what an awful thing to happen to you, you just want your own stuff around you as soon as possible I would imagine. It would make me feel more settled I bet!

I can see why you are so upset and annoyed at having your posts edited as when I have been let down in the past by companies you just want the world to know and to not use them, but I can see where the admins on here are coming from too, their hands are tied basically. So I hope you can get all the frustration out soon and then not let this company spoil 1 more second of your new life in Australia. Good luck and best wishes

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p.s I am going to pm you if that's ok because I want to know who this company is (although I think I know, just want confirmation) so I will avoid them when our time comes. At least then you have helped others to avoid what you have unfortunately had to go through. Sometimes word of mouth is better (no paper trail!!)
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hi Tracy Just us again
That company is supposed to be coming round to our house on Friday but I have heard that many bad reports about them we will be on the phone in the morning to tell them not to bother coming I really don't want them through my front door now. Although we cannot see the name of the company you are talking about believe me we all know who it is ! and it's already cost them our business.

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Old 07-02-2008, 01:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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"They Dont rule in our house"

Thanks for your support, its interesting that you've heard of other bad reports about them, maybe if we had then we wouldnt have booked them!!!
Still interested to know if they still advertise through this forum!!!
Anyway i've now had my hands slapped so wont be mentioning them again, but please feel free to e-mail me if you need any further help.
Lets just hope because we all have to stay stum about our bad experiences that it now doesnt mean others will have to go through them!
Anyway thank again
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:57 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Hi Tracey

Honestly, honey, neither Tim or the Mods have had any intention of trying to "slep your hands" as you put it.

We were threatened with litigation by a company not long ago and Tim took legal advice in WA about everybody's position.

The solicitor advised that the safest course of action is simply to use asterisks. If people can still work out which company is being complained about, that is the company's tough luck. All "reasonable steps" have been taken via the asterisks.

So please don't take this personally. Other people's posts, including some of my own. have had to be edited in the same way. British Expats also use asterisks in this situation, so I assume that they must have received similar legal advice.

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Old 07-02-2008, 04:10 AM   #27 (permalink)
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So lets say you are a disgruntled employee working for company x or a spurned lover of the director and you want to get up to misschief, what better way than to post on an expat type forum about how cr4p their service is.

Not saying you are..
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So lets say you are a disgruntled employee working for company x or a spurned lover of the director and you want to get up to misschief, what better way than to post on an expat type forum about how cr4p their service is.

Not saying you are..
I should hope your not!!!!! What a pathetic thing to post!!!
Oh my word everybody dont post any of your experiences otherwise you'll be accused of being a spurned lover!!!!!
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Not saying you are..
Hi Aldo

Please don't inflame this wretched issue.

The legal fact is that Governments nowadays are so blinking wet that if Bloggs says something about Smith on the Internet that Smith objects to - believing (or at any rate claiming) that what Bloggs said might damage Smith's reputation in some way - Smith can now sue both the person who made the allegation in the first place and the owner of the forum on which the allegation is published, plus modern international Internet-driven legislation gives Smith a choice of jurisdictions in which to sue.

Your own words are that somebody might wish to "Get up to mischief." For exactly this reason, recent legislation forbids the idea unless the joint Defendants are willing to risk having to pay both punitive and exemplary damages, plus costs.

The history of the new legislation (some of it, anyway) is that the pharmaceutical companies wield HUGE anounts of commercial, political and international clout. (Tell Google to find "Defamation + Internet forums + Law" - without the quotation marks - and you can bore yourself rigid for hours reading all about the leading cases which led to this gutless legislation. I did so, so I can assure you of how boring it is, but please don't take my word for it.)

Apparently PharmCo produced a Wundadrug - or so they claimed. A dozen eminent Scientists tested the Wundadrug independently - or at any rate claimed that they had. According to the Scientists, the Wundadrug was about as much use as a teaspoon of sugar as far as curing whatever the thing was supposed to cure went. These Scientists had International Clout. Govts would not buy the Wundadrug if the Scientists were right. PharmCo had spent zillions developing the Wundadrug, expecting Govts everywhere to flock to buy it and then sell it on to their Citizens via their subsidised healthcare schemes etc, so PharmCo were well & truly Riled when the Scientists allegedly said, "A cuppa with sugar in it will be equally ineffective by way of a cure but the cuppa will probably improve the Patient's humour much better than this hideously expensive - and hideously hopeless -Wundadrug ever could." !

PharmCo therefore sued the Scientists and won. Legislation followed. Legislation being the cosh that it is, it translates down to tiny, trivial (in world terms) incidents like this one as well. I doubt very much that this was ever the real intention, but Sprat suing Minnow actually doesn't cost a lot less than PharmCo suing Scientists when push comes to shove because the depth of the respective pockets involved is relevant too.

I think the Law is an Ass, a Bachelor, Daft & Inequitable in this particular context - Tracey ad the Removers - but there is no way that Tim and I can get the law changed about it, plainly. Tim didn't write this gibberish new legislation - neither did I - and we do not have enough of a Voice to be able to get any of it altered, unfortunately.

On ANY sensible view of it there should be "de minimis" provisions in it precisely because the Internet is so utterly vague and anonymous except for the occasional - and very rare - situation where something like the Wundadrug is involved and everyone involved is a world-eminent protagonist in the relevant field.

Without in any way wishing to trivialise Tracey's issue - whichis enormous to her and quite rightly so - Government Health Budgets do not depend on the blinking outcome of her own problem with the removers. The absnce of commonsense de minimis provisions is a grave indictment of the Parliamentary Draftsmen who penned this rubbish and the MPs who failed to inject some common-sense protections for Joe Ordinary into it, if you ask me. The Australian and British Govts have both signed up to this gibberish, as have the American Government and the EU.

Don't believe for a second that the protagnists would not be able to discover Tracey's real identity. A search of Google for Anton Piller Order will reveal everything you need to know about that. On the thread about the family who eventually found one another, you remarked (rightly) that the Internet can be used in pretty sinister ways and you are definitely not wrong about that.

"Gawd 'Elp Us All From Textbook Politicians and Judges With Absolutely No Concept of Real Life" is about all one can say, I suggest! (I reckon that most Judges have rotten sex-lives. Who wants to sleep with a dessicated old fossil, after all? But that probably doesn't do a lot to improve the humour of the average Judge! Meanwhile, Politicians are ambitious and industrious bed-leapers if the memoirs of their enemies are believed!)

Cheers

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I should hope your not!!!!! What a pathetic thing to post!!!
Oh my word everybody dont post any of your experiences otherwise you'll be accused of being a spurned lover!!!!!
calm down woman, i was only playing devils advocate!

anyway i'm not going to inflame the issue, all i want to do is bring a little aldo love into the world and i get called pathetic! so no more posting onthis thread.


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