anyone got a dependant child in over 18

[tracybayliss]

hi guys

we have a 19 year old son who has been in college for three years hated every minute of it but has finally paid off has he has started an apprenticeship in carpentry this week, because he has done two years in carpentry already he can get qualified within 6-12 months.

I have been offered a job on a sponsored visa 457 because they want me to sart before april however after doing some research i donk like the idea of this visa. although i dont feel we will have any problem getting a PR visa after a year, it will prove even more difficult to prove my son is dependant on us if we live thousands of miles away from each other. So interested in the new subclass visa 175, although we still have to prove him dependant there is no way on this earth he could get a mortage, rent a house or room, pay all the bills, cloth himself, buy food, pay to run his car (which is currently in my name on my insurance and still costs £80 month) more if he comes off my insurance. He wouldnt need a car if he didnt work, but if he didnt work the government would be keeping him. Im proud of my son hes got moderate dyslexia and we had a 7 year battle with ed authorities to get him the right education, in the end we won and he got a placement at the only dyslexic school in england. Hes no A student but did much much better at this specialised school then he ever would have done at his previous one.

at times he felt suicidal when he was young because he was always classed as naughty but he just couldnt read or spell very well and teachers had little time to spend with him. he did well at college got a distinction in carpentry has worked 30 hours ontop of his full time college course and now he faces being rejected for working hard.

I would love to hear from anyone who has managed to get there older child in on their visa and just what proof do they require. Both myself and husband are on the jobs in demand list and eventually my son too will be useful in the oZ workforce, do they see past this?

Me and my husband can bring such a lot of experience and skill to OZ but I know for shore that I will not go unless he can come, I wouldnt leave him out on the streets, and I certainly do not want him housed by the council in emergency, in my job i work with patients who expereince this accommodation and sadly these people end up in trouble spots where crime and drugs are vast.

Dilemma, dilemma

help

tracy n john

[snoo]

Hi Tracy,
Have you got anywhere with your dilema? Have you contacted an agent? I hope you haven't given up? My Son is 18 and just finishing his last year of college. We've been told he needs to stay in full time education, but we really don't want to have to pay fees for him to start a uni course in Sept if we will be moving soon!!
Love
lisa,x

[micko]

Hi There,

Hope this helps...
I would never have considered emmigrating and leaving my older son and have had many sleepless nights worrying about whether we would get him though on a family visa.
We have a son who was 17 at the time we applied for TRA in June 2006 for perm residency visa, my OH is a Roofer. By feb 2007 we were still awaiting for medicals and the dreaded descion, by this time our son was nearly 18. Our son had left school at 16 and was training to be a hairdresser in-house, he never attended college but was having on the job trainning and he was earning, albiet an apprenticeship wage and was part qualified by this time.
We got our invite for our medicals but as our son would be 18 in march, and therefore would have turned 18 if the visa was granted and classed as "non-dependant" we were asked to prove his dependancy. Your son like mine was trainning in a skill that is in demand in oZ, i dont know if that helped. Want they want is evidence. We spent hours upon hours and collected as much information as we could find going back years to show DIMA that our son would not be able to support himself and sustain the lifesyle that he currently has( This is the key). Collect as much as you can regarding rental prices of SUITABLE properties in your area (we have many very cheap housing in the area but not of the standard he is acustomed to ) and day-day living expenses. My son was reliant on us for is basic needs, we feed, clothed, insured and bought his car, we take him on holiday and without us he would be living in poverty. I ended up with an A4 lever arch file full of information basically listing our entire household bugdet for day-day living costs(I did this to cover a period of 2 years to show that he was as dependant on us now as he was before he left school), along side every item in our household budget i provided evidence, for example, food bill for a family of 4 per month £xxxx and showed the bank statement to verfy this showing Tesco payments and apportioned the amount for one person. Car insurance, again enclosed insurance payments and showed the payments coming from our bank account, council tax, the bill, Cost of obtaining a mortgage from professional fees to the repayments, pictures of houses and rental properties, even down to bonds and lack of any suitable references. Off-set against this cost for our sons basic needs if he was to remain in th UK was his meagre wage. The defict was huge as can be imagined. The information was submitted to our agent who sent it to DIMA and within a week we had been granted our family visa, april 2007.

We all know that there are not many under 21's that can afford to live totally dependantly in the Uk at the moment, you just need to show DIMA that this is the case in you case. My agents said some people would just present a letter to DIMA saying that their child was dependant on them, they loved them and would be broken hearted if they had to leave them, no wonder the child was then not considered to be included on the visa. You can never provide DIMA with enough evidence/proof but to little and all they can do is assume "well the child is 18 and therefore no longer dependant".

I hope all goes well for you all. The whole Visa process is very demanding and this addition only adds to it, but to us, like you it was all of us or none. And the hard work has paid off.

We validated our Perm Visa in Oct 2007 and are leaving the UK this October for the Gold Coast, my husband and I and our 2 boys 19 & 16

Best wishes

[littlelegz]

hi guys

we have a 19 year old son who has been in college for three years hated every minute of it but has finally paid off has he has started an apprenticeship in carpentry this week, because he has done two years in carpentry already he can get qualified within 6-12 months.

I have been offered a job on a sponsored visa 457 because they want me to sart before april however after doing some research i donk like the idea of this visa. although i dont feel we will have any problem getting a PR visa after a year, it will prove even more difficult to prove my son is dependant on us if we live thousands of miles away from each other. So interested in the new subclass visa 175, although we still have to prove him dependant there is no way on this earth he could get a mortage, rent a house or room, pay all the bills, cloth himself, buy food, pay to run his car (which is currently in my name on my insurance and still costs £80 month) more if he comes off my insurance. He wouldnt need a car if he didnt work, but if he didnt work the government would be keeping him. Im proud of my son hes got moderate dyslexia and we had a 7 year battle with ed authorities to get him the right education, in the end we won and he got a placement at the only dyslexic school in england. Hes no A student but did much much better at this specialised school then he ever would have done at his previous one.

at times he felt suicidal when he was young because he was always classed as naughty but he just couldnt read or spell very well and teachers had little time to spend with him. he did well at college got a distinction in carpentry has worked 30 hours ontop of his full time college course and now he faces being rejected for working hard.

I would love to hear from anyone who has managed to get there older child in on their visa and just what proof do they require. Both myself and husband are on the jobs in demand list and eventually my son too will be useful in the oZ workforce, do they see past this?

Me and my husband can bring such a lot of experience and skill to OZ but I know for shore that I will not go unless he can come, I wouldnt leave him out on the streets, and I certainly do not want him housed by the council in emergency, in my job i work with patients who expereince this accommodation and sadly these people end up in trouble spots where crime and drugs are vast.

Dilemma, dilemma

help

tracy n john

HI there, im going to nsw on a 457 visa in august a little to quick but we want out of england. Like you we have a daughter 14 and a son with dyslexia 19 and like you just finished college as a bricky. i was told my son could come out on a working packpackers visa and they would have work straight away. I know we can't leave him as he also would fall apart without us.

[tracybayliss]

hi

just saw your reply to my orginal post, we looked into a temp visa but have since found out that my son would not be able to work full time and only can work for 3 months for the same employer, so i dont think he would be happy with having to find employment every 12 weeks. im quite hopeful that we ca prove he is dependant onus.

tracy