Hi all, My family and I are applying for immigration to Australia under skilled sub class 136 and may be granted the visa in February this year. The problem is we may have made the wrong decsision about which country we want to live in and now feel that New Zealand may be more us. can anyone tell us weather we can go to NZ on our Oz visa
we have been deciding between ozand NZ for 4 years now been to both and went only in Feb to NZ beautiful country so many things to say, both countries have advantages and disavantages. Tauranga on the Bay of Plenty the most wonderful place ever, however thats the only place we would go and live in depends what kind of people you are, my kids are 12 and 19 they loved NZ but very very quiet no much to do for 19 year olds, so an advantage to go to NZ when kids are little so they Know no different.
We Still dont really know if weve made the right choice, OZ re NZ but we have are reasons but mainly to do with job and family already in OZ.
We orginally saw an agent in Manchester couple of years ago and he knew we were finding it hard to decide which country to migrate to, his advice then was if we applied for a Australian Visa and then chose NZ we would simply just need are passports and documents stamp in Australia then go straight over to NZ. It may be different now. I do know that, that dosent work the other way round, you can not apply for a visa in NZ and transfer it to get into OZ, you have to be living in NZ for I think its 2 years first, unless you apply for a seperate VIsa.
Good luck difficult choice, but you will not be dissapointment , my only advice would be dont live in Auckland, no different from city life here and it is the only place in NZ you get raffic jams.
Hi Lisa sorry for the delay in my reply not a hundred percent sure what changed my mind but it could be my love for skiing we would normally be going to France for a week skiing about now, so the fact that we could ski in New Zealand would be a big bonus. I asked my daughter what would you rather a pool in your garden or be able to go skiing on a weekend and she voted for the skiing!!! any way we,ll just have to see what happens. Steven
Hi Tracy and John Thanks for your reply I have been trying to find out about entering on our Australian visa but seem to be getting conflicting reports. My wife spoke to the New Zealand embassey and at a cost of £1 per minute listened to 4mins of recored messages then spoke to an agent who told her we would need a job offer before entering New Zealand but I'm not sure that this is right so we have now sent them an e-mail so we,ll see what they say. Hope you find that you did make the right choice my daughter is only 8 so hopfully she is at the right age to addapt. Thanks again Steven
Generally speaking a Permanent resident of Australia is allowed to live/work in New Zealand. However, it is not reciprical and a New Zealand Permanent resident does not have the same rights in Australia. You would have to be a New Zealand Citizen to have the right to live/work in Australia unless you applied for visas in the ususal way.
I have been told (not verified) that this anomaly was caused by the amount of brits and south africans who used New Zealand residency as a backdoor to settling in Australia.
BrisbaneBuddha is correct. This is some text from the University of Canterbury web site for their new international/Australian students...
"The following information applies to Australian Citizens and residents of Australia with full and valid Australian Returning Residents Visas. If you are an Australian resident who has entered New Zealand, you will have been given an indefinite New Zealand Residence Permit by immigration at the New Zealand border when you entered the country. This means that you are a New Zealand resident. Note: If you are in Australia on an Australian Temporary Residence Visa you do not qualify for a New Zealand Residence Permit at the New Zealand border"
So basically when you arrive at the NZ airport you automatically get NZ residency that allows you to live and work :-)
We're currently mulling this over... again. We've spent the best part of the last few years working towards a move to NZ. We went over at Easter last year and loved it - had a fantastic time and made some good friends touring around and staying with people I'd chatted to on a bikers forum. Paid a visit to one of the hospitals and was as good as told let me know when you're ready and we'll offer you a position here.
When we came back my wife applied for registration with the NZ Nursing Council, and the process has taken so long that my wife's been reflecting on the whole thing and is now fancying Aus over NZ.
We had a good talk about the whole thing last night and pretty much settled on Aus. Then guess what turned up in the post this morning... yup, her NZ nursing registration after about 8 months of waiting (due to references that we were told had been sent, but actually hadn't - grrrrrr)
So here we are again... do we carry on with the NZ stuff now that that's done, and hopefully get over there in 6 months, or start the whole process again with Aus and wait the 9-12 months that's likely to take?
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We have lived in both countries and from our own PERSONAL experience, Australia (specifically Melbourne) offers double the income of NZ, lower costs, miles better lifestyle etc etc
One immigration trap to be aware of btw is that if you enter NZ as an Australian PR, your time in NZ will not count towards Oz citizenship. Therefore when your Oz PR runs out 5 years after being issued you will no longer be able to live in either country unless you apply for another visa.
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Hi All.
Just noticed this discussion. My wife and I were in dilemma over which country to choose. Having lived in NZ for a year, ten years ago, we then visted Oz on holiday. Both are great places to live and bring up goods and as for natural beauty, I feel NZ wins hands down. However,the disadvantages of NZ are, lower wages, more expensive real estate?,fewer numbers of health professionals than Oz and very much quieter. Also a lot of Kiwis tend to leave NZ for Oz in search of higher wages. If the wages were higher, I would go back tommorrow and Christchurch would be my choice. However, we are now settled on Oz due its higher living standards and better infra structure. Hope this helps.
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