why? is it not ok to not love Australia....

[whichway]

why.......Do some people get so sh*tty about people who are not happy in Oz. I never dig Oz, or people who love it here or people who are happy here. I am unhappy here and lonely and sad and often I feel people who are happy here make a mockery of that. Because I don't like living here does not mean I am a bad person or selfish or an Oz hater. Isn't it ok to not like living here?? Why is there such a them and us attitude sometimes? It is horrible. I am definitely starting to feel of late that two camps have been developing and the people who are unhappy here are getting mocked (as a group) and I think it is in poor taste. We are talking about people's lives, and often how our health, mental and physical has been affected by the move! I have been very lonely, sad and become very depressed because I live here. It is not Australia's fault, and I have already said that, but is it necessary to make me feel stupid and worse than I already do about that? I have also become physically unwell due to a build up of stress, which of course is common in any stressful situation. The thing is, it's hard enough, without CONSTANTLY having to DEFEND yourself!!!

[3FatCats]

Most people who are unhappy post to have a place to vent..... As do sometimes people who are happy, to gush!

I am most angry at myself for having made a bad decision, it has nothing to do with Oz as a country, I was just happier in Europe for a whole range of personal reasons.

Tbh lately it has got a bit boring on PIO with a lot of UK vs Oz posts, I just wish sometimes people would be bit kinder. If something doesn't take your fancy there is no rule to say you have to join in a slagging match.

But yes, it is fine for anyone not to like a certain place!!

[harpodom]

Well for a start the forum's main purpose is to help people emigrating to oz. I think a lot of the most vociferous voices are those of people yet to emigrate. I suppose they find it hard to understand why people are so down on the place they're desperate to move to. Sometimes that turns into an assumption that those struggling here are weak and even worse, depriving them of a visa.

Also there are those who live here and love it BUT (and this is the bit I find really hard to understand) feel the need to defend any perceived slight against Australia. All they need to do is realise that when you're homesick, depressed or struggling, your thinking isn't entirely rational: you don't want to back up every opinion with cast iron statistical proof, you just want to tip out that wheelbarrow full of negativity onto the floor on here.

Lastly there are Australians on here, often partners of British expats or themselves in the UK. I must admit if I was to peruse the posts of an Australian expat forum, hearing the constant whingeing about the lack of VB, proper Milo and mrs macs pies, I would get annoyed. But maybe I would realise the forum isn't for me and let it be......

[Peach]

why.......Do some people get so sh*tty about people who are not happy in Oz. I never dig Oz, or people who love it here or people who are happy here. I am unhappy here and lonely and sad and often I feel people who are happy here make a mockery of that. Because I don't like living here does not mean I am a bad person or selfish or an Oz hater. Isn't it ok to not like living here?? Why is there such a them and us attitude sometimes? It is horrible. I am definitely starting to feel of late that two camps have been developing and the people who are unhappy here are getting mocked (as a group) and I think it is in poor taste. We are talking about people's lives, and often how our health, mental and physical has been affected by the move! I have been very lonely, sad and become very depressed because I live here. It is not Australia's fault, and I have already said that, but is it necessary to make me feel stupid and worse than I already do about that? I have also become physically unwell due to a build up of stress, which of course is common in any stressful situation. The thing is, it's hard enough, without CONSTANTLY having to DEFEND yourself!!!

Are you that blinkered? No one is mocking you.. The 'pro' Australia folk just get fed up of reading sweeping generalisations posted as facts. If threads started appearing about how cheap everything was or the sausages being the best in the worlds (which I don't think anyone has ever claimed) they would be jumped on just as quickly.

[newjez]

It is funny. I'm an Ozzie living in the Uk for 15 years, and I can have a good old whinge about the UK with the Brits and they are fine with it. Try that in Oz - and it's f off back to where you came from. But the quirky thing is - you tend to get it more from the Brits who have moved to Oz. Maybe they've been assimilated. Or maybe they can't face their own demons.

[Hats]

i dont think its people giving out i think its people remembering home and all thats familiar.
do i like Australia? its ok it'll never be home and I wear my Irishness with pride

i agree with 3fatcats she has hit the nail on the head.

for the people who do find it hard maybe they had no choice but to move and for that there will always be resentment.

cheers,

Hats the entertainer

p.s. morning 3fatcats wooooo hooooo

[harpodom]

It is funny. I'm an Ozzie living in the Uk for 15 years, and I can have a good old whinge about the UK with the Brits and they are fine with it. Try that in Oz - and it's f off back to where you came from. But the quirky thing is - you tend to get it more from the Brits who have moved to Oz. Maybe they've been assimilated. Or maybe they can't face their own demons.

I reckon you're spot on there. Brits love a good whinge about their country. It's in the DNA. You're right, the most aggressively pro oz people I've come across are on here! Most Aussies I've met are pretty pragmatic about the whole uk vs oz thing.

[Love Shoes]

why.......Do some people get so sh*tty about people who are not happy in Oz. I never dig Oz, or people who love it here or people who are happy here. I am unhappy here and lonely and sad and often I feel people who are happy here make a mockery of that. Because I don't like living here does not mean I am a bad person or selfish or an Oz hater. Isn't it ok to not like living here?? Why is there such a them and us attitude sometimes? It is horrible. I am definitely starting to feel of late that two camps have been developing and the people who are unhappy here are getting mocked (as a group) and I think it is in poor taste. We are talking about people's lives, and often how our health, mental and physical has been affected by the move! I have been very lonely, sad and become very depressed because I live here. It is not Australia's fault, and I have already said that, but is it necessary to make me feel stupid and worse than I already do about that? I have also become physically unwell due to a build up of stress, which of course is common in any stressful situation. The thing is, it's hard enough, without CONSTANTLY having to DEFEND yourself!!!

I can fully appreciate where you are coming from, and I feel exactly the same about Spain, I hate it here, with a passion but I know a few people who love it, and would never want to leave, for me I just want to get out. It´s not necessarily Spain but the predicament we find ourselves in, no work and nothing to do that does not cost us.

I think sometimes as I said earlier it is very difficult for us all to like a place, some of us settle and some don´t for whatever reason, I think the home sickness will always kick in for me, and who knows I might feel exactly the same as you feel now.

I must admit that my OH is really worried about me not settling in OZ as I have hankered to return to the UK for sometime now, I miss so much about the UK, I always had something to do, places to visit, friends and family but since coming here I have gone from happy go lucky to one miserable whining old bag. My OH has to remind me to smile, even my face wash says smile and do I, no because I have nothing to smile about here, I am going back to the UK shortly for a couple of month´s and it just can´t come quick enough.

Sorry you are feeling so unhappy, not long to go now before you return to your life in the UK

[whichway]

Are you that blinkered? No one is mocking you.. The 'pro' Australia folk just get fed up of reading sweeping generalisations posted as facts. If threads started appearing about how cheap everything was or the sausages being the best in the worlds (which I don't think anyone has ever claimed) they would be jumped on just as quickly.

this is mocking

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/news-c...-am-sorry.html

and i get sick of reading posts where people have to slag the UK and/or the people who want to live there.

[gazsmith]

why.......Do some people get so sh*tty about people who are not happy in Oz. I never dig Oz, or people who love it here or people who are happy here. I am unhappy here and lonely and sad and often I feel people who are happy here make a mockery of that. Because I don't like living here does not mean I am a bad person or selfish or an Oz hater. Isn't it ok to not like living here?? Why is there such a them and us attitude sometimes? It is horrible. I am definitely starting to feel of late that two camps have been developing and the people who are unhappy here are getting mocked (as a group) and I think it is in poor taste. We are talking about people's lives, and often how our health, mental and physical has been affected by the move! I have been very lonely, sad and become very depressed because I live here. It is not Australia's fault, and I have already said that, but is it necessary to make me feel stupid and worse than I already do about that? I have also become physically unwell due to a build up of stress, which of course is common in any stressful situation. The thing is, it's hard enough, without CONSTANTLY having to DEFEND yourself!!!

Firstly please dont put your health at risk for the sake of peoples opinions,
After several trips to Oz its what we (Me & Sue) want with the emphasis being on the WE.
I would certainly never put anyone down who simply couldnt take to life in Oz and god forbid I hope I am never wanting to return to the UK but time will tell.
As quoted the general concensus of this site is about people want to start a new life in Oz so maybe cannot understand why you feel this way, but as part of the process its very healthy for them to see the downside that it may not be everything it is made out to be.
Not sure what drives people to live there apart from my own reasons but I cant understand why people who have never been to Oz want it so badly? (maybe thats another debate for another day)
I dont agree with WDU as I do not think it gives a full account of life, They sell a dream to thousands of viewers as Australia being the GOLDEN CUP in life where people live in huge houses and have a huge wage packet to boot!
My reasons to live there are simply because I love the way of life there, I know its not going to be easy starting again but I'm prepared to give it a damn good go, I know I will possibly have to work harder than the UK to prove my worth being an immigrant but I look at the fact I can live in an enviroment where my Psosrisis wont be a problem and will improve along with my love for the sea and my dream to live on the west coast of OZ.
I would not mock anybody that felt it was not for them, If anything its a worthy admiration for saying "I gave it a bloody good go, but you know what! Its not for me"
There will be people who stay as they will not bare the shame of returning feeling they have failed, but we are all human and we all have different opinions and thats what makes us all unique in our own right!
I would try not take any comments to heart as nobody will ever know the deep down feelings for your reasons and remember you may of possibly of been of the same opinion before you got to the stage you are now faced with.
I genuinely hope you find the happiness you deserve and make the right choice in wether to stay or return.
Gary