Guest rachbarlow Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hi all! I have been away on holiday and have been trying my best to catch up! I know I may of missed a post or two so please excuse me if this had been discussed! I have been searching, as always for ANY info on the SMP etc etc.......... I have come across this:- General Skilled Migration Skilled Occupation Lists (SOL) Applicants must have a nominated occupation which is on the SOL applicable to their circumstances at the time they apply: the SOL in existence prior to 1 July 2010 in ASCO code (schedule 1) – applies only to General Skilled Migration (GSM) applicants who lodged their application prior to 1 July 2010.See: Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 1 (197KB PDF file) the SOL in existence prior to 1 July 2010 in ANZSCO code (schedule 2) – applies to GSM applicants who are eligible for transitional arrangements and who lodge their application before 1 January 2013.See: Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 2 (169KB PDF file) the current SOL (schedule 3) – applies to all new GSM applications, including applicants eligible for transitional arrangements if they prefer to use it.See: Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 3 (122KB PDF file) the State and Territory SOL (schedule 4 ) – relevant only for GSM applicants who are nominated by a State or Territory government agency under a State Migration Plan.See: Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 4 (236KB PDF file) I have seen talk about cat 3 and cat 4 and don't know if this is what you are all refering to? As the schedule 4 talks about the smp list and the occupations on it????? This to me seems very different!! The others talk about the old sol and the new. This to me does not seem to be the processing priority list, but 4 different senarios! If anyone could shed some light it would be appreciated! As we are all waiting for the SMP list this seems very close to that info??? Thanks!:notworthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainyc Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hi Rachel, hope u had a good holiday, what occupation are you?? If ur job is on schedule 3 then you are category 3 and they are slowly starting to process these, the 08 ones at the moment, if not then you are category 4 which is not very good news but when SMP is released for your chosen state and if ur job is on it then you will be cat 2, but apparently this wont be till September at the earliest but more likely later in the year. Lorraine :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rachbarlow Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Here are the links to schedules as I have found the ones above do not work:- Schedule 1 http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule1.pdf Schedule 2 http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule2.pdf Schedule 3 http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule3.pdf Schedule 4 http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule4.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rachbarlow Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Thanks Lorraine! My OH is a cabinet maker. Not on the SOL typical! It is just the schedule 4 talked about the SMP occupations and there was no indication of these being the cat of processing, so I was grabbing at a ray of hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothnet Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Rachel - Schedule 4 seems (on a quick reading of the pdf and DIAC site) to be a list of professions that are treated as being on the SOL (and therefore processing priority 3) IF you have state sponsorship. I.E. say you want to move to Perth, you're a journalist (for instance) and as a result you're not on the schedule that gets you the SOL for a 175 visa. So what you do is you apply to the WA state government for sponsorship, then (unless things have really changed drastically) you apply for a subclass 176 visa, and you commit to the WA state government to live and work in WA for the first two years. The WA government (hopefully) approves you, and then DIAC take your schedule 4 status into account. Without state sponsorship it sounds like you either don't get the points from the job, or you get dumped into the lowest processing category which could take several years to even get looked at, or may just be rejected out of hand. HTH, it's just my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rachbarlow Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Thanks Gothnet, that is the way I read it. I just though that it looked different to the cat processing and therefore thought that I would query it! This schedule could be a good indication of the SMP??!! I don't think that the SMP will be released till oct after the elections, and that is if the gov that gets in, if it is different, honers the current setup to be implemented! It is all confusing ...... nothing ever seems to be clear cut in this game! I just wish that they would come out and say this is this and that is that!!! EASY!! I would appeciate if there are any agents our there willing to offer their thoughts as well?? Also Gill?? Not having an agent I rely on PIO and the internet to keep me updated on what is happening!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hi Rach Take a look at these as well Rach they are useful http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/priority-processing-14-july-2010.pdf http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/gsm-priority-processing-faqs.pdf also a new agents thread at the top of the migration issues page is quite useful. Occupations on the SOL - Schedule 3 in effect at 1 July 2010 – priority group 3 All applicants with a nominated occupation on the SOL - Schedule 3 are included in priority group 3. This includes both independent applicants and applicants sponsored by an Australian family member or nominated by a state or territory government (but not on a state migration plan).Priority group 3 includes all applicants with a nominated occupation of accountant, except those already included in priority groups 1 or 2. Q16 If my nominated occupation is not in Schedule 3 of the SOL in effect at 1 July 2010 what level ofpriority processing will I receive? Applicants with a nominated occupation that is included only in Schedule 1 or Schedule 2 of the current SOL are in priority processing group 4, unless they have applied for ENS or RSMS or have a state or territory nomination in an occupation on a state migration plan. Basically SMPs not out yet - and won't be out till after the election - and who knows when after that depending on what the gov of the day decides... Some Priority (or Cat) 3 people have started moving especially some dinosaurs. But if you are SS unless you are on the new SOL ie the one after 1st July you are now down to Priority 4 - and waiting to hear about the SMPs. VickyMel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1814 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Just to jump onto this thread for a second, quick question, i presume Schedule 1 will no apply to me if i decide to put in a new app? this is where i stand at the moment... Schedule 1 was the one I would have been on this under - Computing Professionals - (not elsewhere classified) 2231-79 Schedule 2 the above is not on but the code relates to - 262112 ICT Security Specialist 2231-21 Computer Systems Auditor - which i am NOT Schedule 3 no "computer" jobs are listed Schedule 4 (same as 2) so i would be pretty much stuck? and wouldnt get any points for being on the old SOL? schedule 1? thanks for ANY help! :-) Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzieland Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Just to jump onto this thread for a second, quick question, i presume Schedule 1 will no apply to me if i decide to put in a new app? this is where i stand at the moment... Schedule 1 was the one I would have been on this under - Computing Professionals - (not elsewhere classified) 2231-79 Schedule 2 the above is not on but the code relates to - 262112 ICT Security Specialist 2231-21 Computer Systems Auditor - which i am NOT Schedule 3 no "computer" jobs are listed Schedule 4 (same as 2) so i would be pretty much stuck? and wouldnt get any points for being on the old SOL? schedule 1? thanks for ANY help! :-) Dave Schedule 1 and 2 are not applicable any more. Schedule 3 is the new SOL - If you are on this list, then you can apply for a visa and currently, this is these are the visas DIAC are processing. Schedule 4 is the SMP List of occupations. If your occupation is on this list, there is a possibility that a state will be sponsoring your occupation. If you are lucky enough, then you will be on the State's SMP and you can apply for them to sponsor you. This will give you priority processing 2 and your visa application can be processed on priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Kash Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Some good replies here, very useful as I think most of us are pretty confused by the whole business, especially those without agents to rely on. Another couple of questions if anyone can clear up? Looking at Schedule 4, its huge. Is there any indication of what percentage or how many occupations each state will be able to choose from this list? If an occupation now on schedule 4 was not suitable for state sponsorship pre SMP what is the likelihood it will be suitable when the SMPs come out??? I assume that some occupations will be chosen by more than one state or even every one, while some will not be on any states' SMP list at all, it just depends on the demand for particular skills in each State which looks at it case by case? Thanks in advance :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazmayo Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Its all hearsay until the SMP list for each state comes out, but I have read that trades will not be on QLD SMP, as no shortage over there, but am hopefully that most trades will be on the WA list!!!! sorry dont know about other states. nothing is certain until they acyually come out. As Rachel above, my hubbie is a cabinetmaker and not on the main SOL list, schedule 4 also, so need to be on the SMP list. cheers caz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazmayo Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 apparently the smp's are with federal gov waiting for approval, but this wont be done until after election. .... i hear end of sept likely release....... but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensmal Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Hi all, All's so confusing but after reading different mails on this page I have gathered some useful information.I had mailed my agent to find out about the processing details regarding my visa ie subclass 475 and was told that I COME under the schedual 1 as I had applied on the 21-9-09. And hence fall under catogry 5 as I was approved under the regional sponsor -Murrey region [NSW].But what seems to get to me is that there are only 4 catogories now and where does that leave me??????.I was also informed that my visa will not be processed till 2012 .AHHH that seems like eternity......Please do help me out in this .Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Susan Wareham McGrath Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 apparently the smp's are with federal gov waiting for approval, but this wont be done until after election. .... i hear end of sept likely release....... but who knows. Hi Cazmayo Because of the pending election, the Federal Government has entered into Caretaker Mode, which means it is unable to make significant policy decisions that will bind an incoming government. Implementing SMPs is one of those decisions. So after the election: if the current government is returned, it is expected that SMPs will be published and their implementation commenced in late September/early October. if the Abbott government takes power, the future of SMPs is unknown at this stage - it depends how they will sit within the Coalition's migration reform agenda. Best regards Susan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zzzsianzzz Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Like what some said, I guess you can be on a indefinite waiting period as cat 3 will always have applications coming in until further changes. Cat 4 will be in the order of when the application is received that have fulfilled the requirements of a PR.. which will range from application from 2007 i reckon hahah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lost pom Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 well ZZZSIANZZZ cannot see what is so funny about being in cat 4...... we all know that the rules can change of one blow of the wind to another so lets just hope the rules dont change and you end up in cat 4 !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Koala123 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Great replies there. It's definately much clearer for me now. It's hard to get your head around it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JK2510 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Well said lost pom! I'm good friends with a cat 4 and it's no laughing matter!! I do consider myself lucky to fall in cat 3 and my thoughts are with the cat 4s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rachbarlow Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 This is the problem...... most of us have been boinging up and down these cat's for ages now, and had so many changes hit us it is not fair. One minute we are the most imporant thing on the oz adgenda, next we are worthless.................. This is why I could not get my head around the schedule thing when I first read it, as everyone was going on about cat again. In short it does not really make things very clear for the 'visa applicant'. One thing for sure I think that the gov simply does not have a full understanding on what is really going on and the real people, the families and their lives they are affecting! We are all simply a TRA number....and that is it!! It seems these changes are introduced like you would hand a coupon out at a supermarket.......not with any interest. There is no real this is this and that means that so this is where you now stand! I appreciate that most have agents to help, some of us don't, like me, however I am sure that there are many agents out there who do not have a clue at what is going on and where their clients stand, as there is alot of conflicting advice on here from 'what their agent has said'. The DIAC need to make things alot clearer. I just think that it is unfair we are cat 2 one minute then cat never........................... I am sure if I paid for a massage on my visa card, and then got burnt with the oil and left in a shop window for all to see, I would be wanting my money back! It just amazes me how much we all bend over and accept the constant slaps in the face just to get to oz! However, I for one feel there is only so much more I can put up with, and if have no idea where I stand by the end of the year I will seriously be re-evaluating my options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlem Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 This is the problem...... most of us have been boinging up and down these cat's for ages now, and had so many changes hit us it is not fair. One minute we are the most imporant thing on the oz adgenda, next we are worthless.................. This is why I could not get my head around the schedule thing when I first read it, as everyone was going on about cat again. In short it does not really make things very clear for the 'visa applicant'. One thing for sure I think that the gov simply does not have a full understanding on what is really going on and the real people, the families and their lives they are affecting! We are all simply a TRA number....and that is it!! It seems these changes are introduced like you would hand a coupon out at a supermarket.......not with any interest. There is no real this is this and that means that so this is where you now stand! I appreciate that most have agents to help, some of us don't, like me, however I am sure that there are many agents out there who do not have a clue at what is going on and where their clients stand, as there is alot of conflicting advice on here from 'what their agent has said'. The DIAC need to make things alot clearer. I just think that it is unfair we are cat 2 one minute then cat never........................... I am sure if I paid for a massage on my visa card, and then got burnt with the oil and left in a shop window for all to see, I would be wanting my money back! It just amazes me how much we all bend over and accept the constant slaps in the face just to get to oz! However, I for one feel there is only so much more I can put up with, and if have no idea where I stand by the end of the year I will seriously be re-evaluating my options! Totally agree with you, we are at our last chance. It is no clearer even with an agent. We are with one of the big guys on here and they can only say wait for the SMP's until they are released there is nothing we can do. Easier said than done I know as if we are not on the SMP's if they ever come out then we will not be emigrating. Dont even know what plan b is at the minute as i have spent the last 3 years working towards getting to Aus. So no laughing matter for us, fingers crossed and keep your chin up a little bit longer, its not over yet! xx :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantitySurveyor Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 This is the problem...... most of us have been boinging up and down ... It just amazes me how much we all bend over and accept the constant slaps in the face just to get to oz! Is this an alternative Visa route that we don't know about ? :wubclub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JK2510 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yes the P***** around and empty pocket visa. I cant believe we have actually paid for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 This is the problem...... most of us have been boinging up and down ....It just amazes me how much we all bend over and accept the constant slaps in the face just to get to oz! Is this an alternative Visa route that we don't know about ? :wubclub: Nice one :laugh: Yes its the ...tell them we are desperate for them, then take their money, then lead them up the garden path and dump them there until they give up method... Unfortunately after I have been put on this method too and it doesn't seem to be working for me either... VickyMel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zzzsianzzz Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 well ZZZSIANZZZ cannot see what is so funny about being in cat 4...... we all know that the rules can change of one blow of the wind to another so lets just hope the rules dont change and you end up in cat 4 !!!!! lol... im in cat 4 myself.. lol...:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rachbarlow Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yes the P***** around and empty pocket visa. I'm on that visa too what a coincidence! You do know that it is a very 'select group'...............we really are special!!! :biglaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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