TONY BURKE: There’s a range of views that get raised. That’s one of them. Yes, that’s true. I take issue, obviously, with how much money you’re saying is being spent on an individual asylum seeker but if I can go to your point, which - I think I can summarise it fairly by saying, “Why is isn’t this better coordinated?” And when you go to some of the examples there, because I know we’ve spoken a bit about asylum seekers already, but when you also go to the examples about skilled migration, I think your point is a perfect example. We have, to some extent, stated to address this one. But where you’ve got big shortages of nurses and for a long time we were bringing in a whole lot of cooks and hairdressers. And people do support a skilled migration program, but they want it to be targeted so that it’s the skills we really need and people are then going and living in the communities where we need those workers and have we improved it since we came into government? Yes, I believe we have. I think we’ve got a good record there. But does it go far enough? Not for a minute. Not for a minute.
And that’s why my portfolio has been created. I mean for years now people have sat around at barbeques in Australia and said, “How come you don’t bring these policy areas together?” Neither side of politics has ever done it. We’re now having a go at starting to coordinate those issues and not simply to say, you know, a bigger population is, by definition, better. What matters is that we’re sustainable, that we plan it, that the infrastructure matches where people are living. I don’t think that we’ll be able to do it perfectly. I’ve no doubt we’ll be able to do it better than we have.