New sol

**QuantitySurveyor** · 17-05-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ozzieland

I have just re-read the list and taking the new SOL to be CSL, my conclusions are as follows :

Correct me if I am wrong...

Why would they revoke the CSL and replace it with a bigger list of occupations ?

I would love it personally if the new SOL was the CSL, selfishly, as my Profession is on the new SOL, but having thought about it all day, I cannot see it.

What ya think ?

**Gollywobbler** · 17-05-2010, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by fitz sher

Hi Gill, Thanks for that information, it was really helpful. I recieved the email back as you advised.

The following is the priority list as per the email;

Under the Ministerial Direction, the following processing priorities (with
highest priority listed first) apply:
1. Applications from people who are employer sponsored under the ENS and
the RSMS.
2. Applications from people who are nominated by a State/Territory
government agency under a State Migration Plan agreed to by the Minister.
3. Applications from people who are nominated by a State/Territory
government agency and whose nominated occupation is on the Critical Skills
List (CSL).
4. Applications from people who are neither nominated nor sponsored
under Priority Groups 1,2 or 3 but whose nominated occupation is listed on
the CSL.
5. Applications from people who are nominated by a State/Territory
government agency whose nominated occupation is not listed on the CSL
6. (i) Applications from people whose occupations are listed on the
Migration Occupations in Demand List (MODL); as well as
(ii) Applications from people who are sponsored by family and whose
nominated occupation is not listed on the CSL.
7. All other applications are to be processed in the order in which they
are received.

Am I right in saying that the CSL is now the SOL, and if so would that not put me in cat 3 as I have been nominated by a state.

Alan

Hi Alan

As I understand it, the CSL will disappear once the new SOL and the to-be-agreed SMPs are both implemented.

At any rate, it is meant to mean that applications which are already in the pipeline and where the nominated occupation is on the CSL will continue to be fast tracked but new applications will only take effect under the new SOL and, if appropriate, an SMP.

However the Minister's "logic" still gives me a headache. For example, the current CSL says that the only Teachers who are needed with critical urgency are secondary school teachers. The new SOL says that almost every type of Teacher is needed.

So is the current CSL wrong by reason of being too narrow? If yes then I call that a SNAFU. If the current CSL is not too narrow, do they need the other Teachers "at some stage but not yet?" Or is it a political decision, I wonder?

Cheers

Gill

**Ozzieland** · 17-05-2010, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by QuantitySurveyor

Why would they revoke the CSL and replace it with a bigger list of occupations ?

I would love it personally if the new SOL was the CSL, selfishly, as my Profession is on the new SOL, but having thought about it all day, I cannot see it.

What ya think ?

Well... since there is no mention of any SOL which is not possible and according to DIAC, the old CSL list will be abolished from 1st July, 2010. Besides if you see, the SMP takes priority over all and this list will be an approved list... like the today's CSL.

The terms may change effective 1st July, 2010

**QuantitySurveyor** · 17-05-2010, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ozzieland

Well... since there is no mention of any SOL which is not possible and according to DIAC, the old CSL list will be abolished from 1st July, 2010. Besides if you see, the SMP takes priority over all and this list will be an approved list... like the today's CSL.

The terms may change effective 1st July, 2010

I'm thinking that the SOL replaces the old SOL, the basic list of professions that will qualify for a GSM visa. They have halved the number of people that can qualify moving forward.

Nothing to do with priority processing ?

This priorty list was issued ages ago, I see it as a statement of intent for priority processing only, hence the SMP's were included, long before they have been announced ?

I can only see SMP or ENS as priority processing for new applications ?

Pete

**Ozzieland** · 17-05-2010, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by QuantitySurveyor

I'm thinking that the SOL replaces the old SOL, the basic list of professions that will qualify for a GSM visa.

Nothing to do with priority processing ?

I can only see SMP or ENS as priority processing for new applications ?

Pete

I dont think the new SOL just replaces the old SOL. This list according to the Aus Government has been analyzed and scrutinized before release. They would want to make it to be different from the old SOL.

It will not make sense if SMP is only for new applicants. For example... Before 1st July, 2010 - if Project administrator was not on any priority list and the applicant applied before 1st July. Effective 1st July it appears on one of the SMP, why shouldn't the application be processed as an SMP ? Just because I applied before 1st July, does this mean my occupation is as important as a person who applies after 1st July?.... Well, this is just me thinking out loud !!!

**QuantitySurveyor** · 17-05-2010, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ozzieland

I dont think the new SOL just replaces the old SOL. This list according to the Aus Government has been analyzed and scrutinized before release. They would want to make it to be different from the old SOL.

It will not make sense if SMP is only for new applicants. For example... Before 1st July, 2010 - if Project administrator was not on any priority list and the applicant applied before 1st July. Effective 1st July it appears on one of the SMP, why shouldn't the application be processed as an SMP ? Just because I applied before 1st July, does this mean my occupation is as important as a person who applies after 1st July?.... Well, this is just me thinking out loud !!!

Hey, I'm just thinking out loud too !

and I'm hoping I am wrong !!

Okay, my thoughts are that the whole migration plan has been revamped from the top. The new SOL has been analysed and scrutinized as you say - and they have halved it - this is for initial qualification for a visa moving forward post 1st July. They are deciding what skills are actually required in the future. Forget priority processing for the mo ?

I didn't say SMP would only apply to new applicants, I see it as the only way for PP for new applicants, and I am suggesting is that current visa applications, can apply for SMP sponsorship just as they could for SS.

So what I'm saying is ... the priority list from DIAC still stands and doesn't have to be amended come 1st July.

Pre 1st July applicants eg. CSL, CSL with SS, or CSL with SMP should they upgrade will get PP.

Post 1st July, new applicants will have to be on the new SOL, and only get PP if they get SMP sponsorship. ( If not on SOL, they will need ENS, RSM or approved SMP sponsorship )

Pre 1st July applicants, regardless that they are on the new SOL, will be treated under the old rules.

I think you are confusing qualification and priority processing, but would love to wrong here xx.

**Ozzieland** · 17-05-2010, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by QuantitySurveyor

Hey, I'm just thinking out loud too !

and I'm hoping I am wrong !!

Okay, my thoughts are that the whole migration plan has been revamped from the top. The new SOL has been analysed and scrutinized as you say - and they have halved it - this is for initial qualification for a visa moving forward post 1st July. They are deciding what skills are actually required in the future. Forget priority processing for the mo ?

I didn't say SMP would only apply to new applicants, I see it as the only way for PP for new applicants, and I am suggesting is that current visa applications, can apply for SMP sponsorship just as they could for SS.

So what I'm saying is ... the priority list from DIAC still stands and doesn't have to be amended come 1st July.

Pre 1st July applicants eg. CSL, CSL with SS, or CSL with SMP should they upgrade will get PP.

Post 1st July, new applicants will have to be on the new SOL, and only get PP if they get SMP sponsorship. ( If not on SOL, they will need ENS, RSM or approved SMP sponsorship )

Pre 1st July applicants, regardless that they are on the new SOL, will be treated under the old rules.

I think you are confusing qualification and priority processing, but would love to wrong here xx.

So what you are trying to say is that the old CSL is still showing for the purpose of priority processing ? You make a point and what you are trying to say is that the new SOL is only a list for visa elibility !! Is this correct ? You are probably right, I think I have analyzed the whole thing a little more than required