Subclass 886-The waiting game

**jigish** · 24-05-2010, 05:44 AM

well i just started looking, so cant say much, but i havnt seen anyone in 4 years that i spent here, who doesnt have PR and have a job... so i think it is hard

**adrianyts** · 24-05-2010, 08:36 AM

@ jigish: The new point system will not apply to existing application and they will process each application based on the system of the date that you applied.

It is possible to get a job before your PR is granted if you have a Bridging Visa A, you have full work rights. I got a friend that is working as a civil engineer as his application is under process (civil engineers are in demand). I also have a doctor friend that is working with the same condition.

**thelongwait** · 24-05-2010, 08:55 AM

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**User Name** · 24-05-2010, 11:03 AM

My advice for all 885/886 applicants is to NOT wait for visa to make your career moves. I know many people in the past would just wait, which made sense at the time because processing time was 2-3 months max.

Things got changed big time. Lot of us are looking at 2011 or 2012 before we can hear a word the way things are going. Especially with new changes, there is unprecedented number of application from people eager to beat the changes.

So those that applied recently like me, you are in a very very long queue.

**ramot** · 29-05-2010, 07:56 AM

Depends on the type of job you are going for. If you are a graduate, then most of the jobs ask for visa status on the application form. You have to tick OTHER!!!! so you are very very lucky to even get an interview without PR. Then if you are lucky enough to get an interview, you are up against all the other applicants who are usually Australian. Unless you have something very special to offer you have very little chance. Hardly any employer knows anything about the bridging visa A, even if you take the appropriate copy of the details with you. According to interview last week, the employer has to check your status every 3 months, so how many are going to bother to employ someone who needs that to be done.

**User Name** · 29-05-2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by ramot

Depends on the type of job you are going for. If you are a graduate, then most of the jobs ask for visa status on the application form. You have to tick OTHER!!!! so you are very very lucky to even get an interview without PR. Then if you are lucky enough to get an interview, you are up against all the other applicants who are usually Australian. Unless you have something very special to offer you have very little chance. Hardly any employer knows anything about the bridging visa A, even if you take the appropriate copy of the details with you. According to interview last week, the employer has to check your status every 3 months, so how many are going to bother to employ someone who needs that to be done.

All off the above are true unless you got really high grades (HD) and/or good contacts in workforce.

**leojack** · 29-05-2010, 01:41 PM

I agree with u Ramot. Time and fate is not in our favor.

**Gollywobbler** · 29-05-2010, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jane1991

If you have already made an onshore application, you need to be onshore at the time of grant. If you leave and dont want to come back until you get the PR then you can leave and come back in on a tourist visa.

If I was you, I'd appoint a Migration Agent, but if you keep immigration informed you can do it yourself.

If you leave your BV A will terminate but your 885 application will keep being processed. Basically you'll lose your work rights until the 885 is granted.

There is no point making an offshore application, as its slower and will cost you.

cheers

Mark Hoath
MARN 0956672
markh@ausmigrate.biz

Why would you want to work on casual jobs on BVA when you can work overseas in a professional role that is relevant to your studies
There is no obligation to be onshore during processing

Maybe having a 485 and then leaving makes more sense ... then you have work rights and entry rights for 18 months ...

Hi Jane

I'd suggest double checking with an experienced RMA before you follow the above advice from Mr Hoath, frankly.

The first two digits of a Registered Migration Agent's MARN show the year in which the Agent first became registered with the MARA.

Mr Hoath's "About us" page is here:

Australian Migration & Employment - Visa Specialists

On their Home Page, the above trio of beginners say that they all completed the Grad Cert, Which did not begin until mid-2006 and the course contents are so basic that it is a disgrace imho. It is alarming that none of the trio claim to be Australian solicitors as well? Does any of them have a degree in Aussie Law, at least, do you know?

If somebody on a BVA leaves Australia, how is this person going to get back into Australia for the grant of the onshore visa? They cannot use a tourist visa to get back in because the purpose of their return would be "to obtain Permanent Residence in Oz" - which is NOT the purpose of a tourist visa so a tourist visa would not be granted and trying to apply for one could raise Character issues with the PR visa if the applicant does not tell the absolute truth in the application for a tourist visa.

If, as Hoath claims, the onshore visa application would continue to be processed, it could be processed so fast that the CO would find it necessary to refuse the PR visa because the applicant is not in Australia at the time when the CO is ready to make a decision. DIAC could use their "early decision" procedure to bring this about.

If you want top quality, accurate, experienced immigration law advice in Sydney, the only people whom I, personally, would trust are George Lombard or Nigel Dobbie:

Profile | George Lombard Consultancy Pty. Ltd.

Dobbie and Devine Immigration Lawyers Pty Ltd

George was first registered in 1996, Nigel in 1993. If Nigel is in Sydney, he will give you some free advice about Bridging Visas over the phone and his advice would be 100% accurate. I think George charges for telephone advice but Nigel definitely doesn't.

Personally, I have far more faith in the organ grinder than I have in the monkey.

Cheers

Gill

**Jane1991** · 30-05-2010, 02:07 AM

Thanks Gill ! Most of us have multiple entry rights through visa 485 that we get after graduation. So we don't need a BVB to come back or even a tourist visa ... Therefore circumventing the Character issues

This method works only if a person is on CSL or SS/

because the applicant is granted a visa within 20-25 months as a rule....

A 485 takes 4-5 months depending on what you studied ... during that time you have to stay in Aus ... once you get the 485... you can come and go as you please for 18 months ...

Yes I think I will be better off double checking the advice ...

**Jane1991** · 10-06-2010, 02:18 AM

LOCATION WHEN VISA IS GRANTED - 'ONSHORE' GSM VISA APPLICATIONS:

If you apply for an 'onshore' GSM visa, you must be in Australia for your visa to be granted. If you are outside Australia when your visa application is due to be finalised, the department will contact you, requesting your arrival details. Advice will be sent to the last contact address you provided. The letter will specify the time period you and all family members included in your application, have to return to Australia.

Apparently things are shaping up now. This is an excerpt in email from DIAC ... I had asked them if I can go offshore after I apply for 885. Basically they said yes you can but you must be back in Australia for it to get granted.

So now I have to figure out if I can get a visa that will let me have entry rights :-)

YEY one hurdle down ... a million more to go
So now onto the next question ...