Can Anyone Help Me With My Parents!!!

[Mattyw1985]

Hi everyone, basically I have been offered a job in Melbourne on a 457 visa, I am 23 and obviously my parents are interested/worried. I have just returned from a fantastic holiday in Australia and got chatting to someone who was convinced that if I stayed for 2 years and gained citizenship then my parents would be eligible to come over to. Could anyone please tell me if this is true, some truth in it or complete bull! Any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks Matt.

[Gollywobbler]

Hi Matt

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

My mother has a Contributory Parent visa. She has Permanent Residency in Australia as a result. The central plank of Parent migration is the Balance of Family Test:

The balance of family test requires that:

• half your children must be permanently resident in Australia
  or
• you have more children permanently resident in Australia than any other single country.

If your Parents can meet the BoF Test there will be a range of options to choose from depending on their current ages, affordability etc:

Family - Visas & Immigration

Parent Migration Booklet

However. You are only 23. How old are Mum and Dad and if they work, what does each one of them do, please? Skilled migration might not be impossible via one of them depending on their ages and skill sets.

In order to sponsor Mum & Dad (if the BoF Test is OK) you would first need to be "a settled permanent resident" of Australia. Nothing turns on 2 years. The question is whether you are a Permanent Resident and whether your lifestyle, including during the period spent as a Temporary Resident, has become "settled." Some people become fully settled very quickly. Others take longer. Common-sense soon determines which is which.

A 457 visa is a temporary visa which does not confer Permanent Residency. So before you go rushing to Oz on a 457 without even bothering to obtain a skills asessment first, what is your occupation, please, according to the list below?

A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information

How long have you been working in your occupation and what qualifications do you have?

Right now 457 visas are not easy to come by in most areas of Oz:

Agents Gateway

Also it would be better for you if you obtain a positive skills assessment before leaving the UK. It will be MUCH safer for you if you do this first because if you are in Oz on a 457 visa and you get laid off due to recessionary cutbacks, you have a much better, broader range of options if you already have a skills assessment than if you do not. Speedy solutions are bankaxed if it will take 3 months to get a positive skills assessment, as well.

So if you could please answer my questions, let us see whether something better will be possible for you, I suggest.

Best wishes

Gill

[Mattyw1985]

Thanks for the reply, all seems very confusing! Sorry wasn't very clear before. I am being sponsored by an employer in Melbourne on a 457 visa and am currently going through my application. I work as an engineer for the railway in the UK. My parents are both 47, my Dad works as an IT manager for HP, my Mum isn't currently working but is a qualified Ocupational Therapist. They are both living in Kuala Lumpur but are returning to the UK in June. I am one of two children. Hope this helps. Once again thanks for the reply and any help is greatly appreciaited.

[Mattyw1985]

Also I have been working in the Rail industry for 7 years and have an NVQ level 3 in railway engineering, along with various railway qualifications which probably wouldn't mean anything to you! Thanks

[JoanneHattersley]

Do you have a job offer for your 457?

You would have to get PR first before thinking about citizenship.

Citizenship is 4 years after PR.

[Mattyw1985]

Yes, I have a job offer with the 457

[Gollywobbler]

Hi Matt

I am dead jealous of your Parents. I was born & brought up in Malaysia. I know KL well though it is my least favourite place in Malaysia. We lived in Ipoh, about 130 miles north of KL However we went to KL regularly for shopping etc.

A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information

Sticking with Dad for the moment, please get him to choose from the above list and tell us what sort of IT expert he is (job title & code number since I haven't a clue about IT.) An employer-sponsored route to PR is not necessarily impossible for Dad if he finds an employer sponsor and South Australia would be a good place to look.

I say SA because I am told that the fastest-growing IT sector in Oz at the moment is in SA. Adelaide is only 750kms from Melbourne and the Great Ocean Road is a "must do."

YouTube - Great Ocean Road - Victoria Australia

YouTube - Australia - Helicopter flight - Great Ocean Road

Apart from that, if Dad can find a willing employer sponsor then SA are accommodating about the RSMS visa and Adelaide is "regional Oz" because the whole of SA is "regional":

Workers - Visas & Immigration

Information Booklets - Applications & Forms - Visas & Immigration

Let us discover exactly what Dad does and then we can consider his possible options from there. With employer-sponsored visas, the normal age limit of 45 can be waived in exceptional circumstances and SA are pretty good about what constitutes exceptional circs.

Occupational Therapist 2383-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

If Mum has not been 'retired' for too long, an employer-sponsored visa might be possible via her instead of via Dad.

If they like the Tropics and would like some adventure, looking for employers in the Northern Territory would be an excellent option for them as well. Again, the whole of the NT is 'regional.' Plus it is not a life sentence. After 2 years on an RSMS visa they could move to wherever they like.

Which would leave your sibling? Does s/he have a skill on the SOL? If not, does s/he have a partner? If not then a Remaining Relative visa could be a possibility in the future but you, Mum & Dad would all need PR in Oz first. How old is your sibling, please?

And finally, you.....

As far as I know none of the skilled trades to do with railways are on the SOL. Hence all railway people tend to have to start with the temporary sc 457 visa. After 2-3 years on that they can then upgrade to PR either via the ENS 856 visa or the sc 857 RSMS visa. You should get the employer in Oz to confirm in writing that they will help you to upgrade to PR as soon as is possible.

However it depends on exactly what you do. "Railway Engineer" is too vague. Could you be more specific, please?

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausst...$File/asco.pdf

The link above is to the ASCO Dictionary. The alphabetical list of occupations is at the back. Trust me, nobody has been overlooked except for migration agents.

The Prime Minister, the Rabbi, the Strip Tease Artist (has a degree and a high level of artistic ability according to ASCO) the Prostitute, the Garbologist and the Gravedigger are all in there. Ergo you are in there somewhere as well but finding the Strine job title sometimes requires lateral thinking.

Best wishes

Gill