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      Emigrating when you are over 45

      Hello Everyone

      We would like to emigrate to OZ when my Husband retires from the Police force in 4 years time. He will be 49 and I will be 46. Looking at the visa information, it looks like it is almost impossible for us on the points system, but I have to admit that I have only read a small amount of information and don't really know where to start! I don't know if our work experience will count for anything. I work for a travel company as an office manager.

      I know it's a long way off before we can emigrate, but any advice will be welcome. The only thing we have going for us is a good Police Pension and our mortgage will be paid off so we will have the money from the sale of our home.

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      Momome


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      Hi and welcome to Poms In Oz.

      As you say it will be very difficult for you to emigrate to Australia
      due to your ages unless you have adequate savings of $750,000 +
      but as your still young enough to work it may be different for you.

      I tried but failed misserably and was told the best thing i could do was
      to rent in Oz for 6 months and return to the UK for 6 months, which
      i plan on doing on retirement in 8yrs.

      Hopefully other members may know different, i hope so.

      Good luck in your search.


      Andy
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      Hello Momome

      Welcome to Poms in Oz.

      Right now, you are a 42 year old Office Manager, potentially.

      Office Manager 3291-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

      However:-

      How big is the Travel Agency that you manage? How many staff etc?

      How long have you been the Manager for?

      What sort of travel does it deal with? Holidays or business?

      Do you hold any formal qualifications? If so, which ones, please?

      Potentially there might be a way to get Permanent Residency for you, independently of an employer, via the subclass 176 visa with State Sponsorship from the Australian Capital Territory. Right now they are offering to sponsor suitable applicants who are Office Managers for the 176 visa but no other State or Territory is making the same offer.

      If everything comes together on the day and you succeed in securing a 176 visa for yourself, Hubby and any children who are still wholly or substantially dependent on you financially (automatic if the child is under 18 when the visa is granted but otherwise not automatic) then you will have Permanent Residency in Australia. You would not have to move there immediately, though. With the 176 visa you have to go to Oz fairly soon after the Grant of the visa, using the 176 visa and the whole family must make the journey. This act of Initial Entry to Oz clinches the visa and a short rekky visit will do for the purpose.

      Everybody included in the visa then has 5 years from the date of the Grant in which to “move to Oz” properly. Therefore if – IF - this possibility works out for you, you would get exactly what you are looking for once Hubby retires from the Police.

      The deal with State Sponsorship is that in return for the support of the relevant State Government, you agree to live in the Sponsoring state for 2 years once you make your permanent move to Oz. During the 2 years you have to keep the State Migration people informed of your address because they will send you a questionnaire once every 6 months (4 in total.) The purpose of the questionnaire is solely to provide feedback to the State’s migration people so that they can assess how well their sponsorship program is working out for the migrants involved.

      I’m not a migration agent so I can’t offer anything except my own thoughts and suggestions. I strongly recommend that if you want to pursue the possibility, you should seek advice from a top notch Registered Migration Agent. The one I would particularly suggest for you is George Lombard in Sydney:

      Visa Info | George Lombard Consultancy Pty. Ltd.

      Profile | George Lombard Consultancy Pty. Ltd.

      The reason why I would go to George in your shoes is because he was born & brought up in Canberra, worked for the Australian Federal Government there for some years and he only moved to Sydney about 9 or 10 years ago, I believe. An Agent who knows Canberra as well as George does is helpful just for that, for a start. Also I reckon George would have a very sure “feel” for whether the whole idea would really be likely to work in your particular case because of his knowledge of Canberra and he is also likely to have a very good nose for the mindset of the ACT Government, I reckon.

      I imagine Canberra is a good place for a travel agent because it is the Government’s HQ. Any Govt Department with an international element to its work involves middle-rank and senior Civil Servants doing a huge amount of overseas business travel between them. A lot of them (and in the domestic Departments) do a heck of a lot of domestic travel as well, which in Oz would be mostly by air. I don’t know about tourism to Canberra but I should think there is a lot of tourism from Canberra because the ACT is so small that the locals would go elsewhere for their holidays.

      However there are also lots of queries with you, I think. I think George should be asked to take a look at your CV and then see what he thinks of the idea of an ACT-sponsored 176 visa for you. He might tell you, “Gill is the Patron Saint of Lost Causes! For the following reasons, the idea stands no chance… [xyz.]” However he might equally feel that the notion is do-able, so I would suggest that you ask him.

      Best wishes

      Gill
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      Hello Gill

      Thanks for the information you sent me. It sounds promising at least and I'll look into it when I get a chance. I had no idea that you could apply up to 5 years before moving! I'm not sure if my experience will be good enough, as I work for a small company and there are only 6 of us. We specialise in tailor made holidays to two destinations. If my work experience doesn't help, I was wondering if we could come in on a Business application if we bought a B&B? These thoughts are all in the early stages yet, with hardly any research done (I'm sure you can tell haha).

      Thanks once again
      Momome

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      Hi Andy

      Sorry to hear that your application failed. I don't think we could afford to keep a property in the UK, otherwise that would be a perfect plan. We have also thought of long term house swapping as often people are re located with jobs. This would give us time to decide whether we liked it enough to stay. We have swapped before and it worked out great but only a month at time.

      Regards
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      Quote Originally Posted by Momome View Post
      Hello Gill

      Thanks for the information you sent me. It sounds promising at least and I'll look into it when I get a chance. I had no idea that you could apply up to 5 years before moving! I'm not sure if my experience will be good enough, as I work for a small company and there are only 6 of us. We specialise in tailor made holidays to two destinations. If my work experience doesn't help, I was wondering if we could come in on a Business application if we bought a B&B? These thoughts are all in the early stages yet, with hardly any research done (I'm sure you can tell haha).

      Thanks once again
      Momome
      Hi Momone

      Do you own the travel agency?

      Best wishes

      Gill

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      Hi Gill

      No, unfortunately I don't own it! When I'm at home tonight, I am going to sit down with other half and look at our options. I know it's going to take time and it's a bit daunting. Are you living in OZ?

      Kind regards
      Diane

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      mmm oldies (45)

      you know we `oldies ` have a lot to offer really and no one will take us on!! pah!

      we are in the same boat...oh is 45 (46 feb) im 43 and would love to be able to go to oz but alas we have no actual quals... so dont think we have a cat in hells..but if anyone knows a way round that could help us itd be great.
      20+ years landscaping (OH) self employed. partners actually.hard and soft landscaping spraying licence, clearance of electricity board sites so health and safety.
      Me .... bought up 2 kids (21 &19) bit of merchandising, book work, now do voluntary work for challenged kids to get them into work.
      thanks for any help( even if it means a bit of training which i could get from my vol work free.)
      sassy x

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      hi momome, I went to Perth March 2008 for a visit and as a retired police officer I got in conversation with the local police(as you do) and part of the conversation came to the question from them was are you staying, as western australia police are screaming out for retired uk police officers to help to train recruits, I mentioned I was probably too old at 57 but he said no as they wanted experienced officers.
      Apparantly if you look at their website there is a link to look at for retired officers.
      Hope this gives you something else to think about, I still think about it !!
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      Hi Sandymc

      That sounds really promising! We need to stay in the UK for another 4 years so as my Husband gets his full police pension and also our daughter is off to University this coming September, so need to be around for her. My husband has been in the force for 22 years, so plenty of experience there! He was in the Navy beforehand, so that's why he can retire at 49.

      Do you not want to go yourself?

      Regards
      Diane

     

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