advise on getting started

[LYNDA BOOTH]

Hi Thanx
What is your occupation??? Do you recommend going through a agent? It`s not easy this is it. ha!!!

[LYNDA BOOTH]

I take it the whole process takes a while then. When do you hope to go? Where in Perth are you hoping to go???

[Sam&Si]

Hi Lynda,

We used an Agent and for us it was money well spent. It sounds like you should speak to one asap so that you can find out which visa you may be eligible for. Really important to contact a reputable one though to make sure you get the right info! Visa Bureau, Go Matilda and Ian Harrop all get great feedback on here - perhaps you should ring them and have a free chat (this will be without obligation).

Best of luck with it all,

[LYNDA BOOTH]

Hi Mags
Yes ended up buying 2 pairs of shoes ha! thanx for that this will keep me busy. We are defo serious about this will keep trying.

[Angie*mark]

Originally Posted by LYNDA BOOTH

Thanx for your reply, I did go online and googled move to oz got in touch with a agent was not much help he said i could try a student visa but we have children this works out quite expensive, trying to get a sponser it`s a right nightmare, how are you guys doing it?????

Oh that agent dont sound good i would def try another agent we tried 3 and went a seminar before we settled with go matida.
We're going for a skilled visa.
This site is fantastic and any questions u have u will more than likely get the answer off one or more peeps on here............i found it so hard, knackering and draining before finding PIO.
Good luck hun xx

[Gollywobbler]

Hello Lynda

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

My partner works in the rail industry over here as a operations manager

Please don't get drawn into appointing an Agent at this stage. Speak to several and have free chats with them all but leave it firmly at that.

The reason why I say this is because the railway companies in NSW and Victoria sometimes have recruitment drives. When they do (as they early in 2007) they tend to draw up a short list of applicants, send someone to the UK to interview them and then they offer a temporary subclass 457 visa to start with, with a promise of employer sponsorship for PR later on.

The first thing to do in your situation is to define Hubby's current occupation by reference to the ASCO Code:

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausst...$File/asco.pdf

The alphabetical index of occupations is at the back. The Code works peculiarly, computer-wise. If the job is on Pge 100 but you go to Page 100 according to Adobe, it will actually be about Page 92 of the Code itself. So let Adobe take you to the right general area and then use the page numbering at the foot of each page in the Code itself in order to find Page 100 of the Code, if you see what I mean.

Trust me, Hubby is in the ASCO Code somewhere! The thing is incredibly detailed. The trick is to find out what his Aussie/ASCO job-title is if you see what I mean.

In the Index, nothing under "Railway" instantly leaps off the page looking like a clone of your OH. Since you say he is an Operations Manager, I doubt if he is a "General Manager." He sounds more specialised than that.

OH might be a "Specialist Manager Not Elsewhere Classified - Code 1299-79" because Airport Manager and Harbourmaster are both in that group? (But God knows why Archbishop is in the same group!) You would have to ask OH how closely his role would compare with the role of an Airport Manager or Harbourmaster. This role is on Page 92 of the Code.

What I would call a "Railway Signalman" is described by ASCO as a "Train Controller" on Page 487 of the Code - 7129-13. Dunno. I doubt that this person is OH? I tend to think a Railway Operations Manager is more like a Harbourmaster in terms of the sorts of tasks which are his responsibility?

OH could be a Transport Company Manager on Page 266?

I doubt whether he is really a Transport Operations Inspector on Page 445?

You really need to get OH to sit down with the ASCO Code and tell us which job-description in the thing fits him to a tee.

Having established his ASCO job-title, the next step is to see whether the occupation is on the SOL:

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1121i.pdf

If it is not on the SOL, is it on the ENSOL?

If it is not on the ENSOL either then it boils down to the idea that Hubby's employer is probably in Regional Australia, able to take advantage of the Regional Employer Concessions for the 457 visa and the RSMS visa as a route to Permanent Residency.

There must be a reason why two or three guys on here last year seemed to be headed in the direction of regional NSW/Victoria and they were heading off on employer-sponsored 457 visas. I have no idea about the rail network in Oz - I assume that freight trains in Oz use the same tracks as passenger trains but I do not know for sure.

However it is at this end of things that you need to start unless you have an occupation which is less difficult to define in Australian terms than Hubby's?

Try here:

A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information

Once you have "identified" OH, please sing out again and we can progress matters from there.

Best wishes

Gill

[FEE14]

Hi Lynda,
I am so glad that someone else is confused about how to get started, I live near Glasgow and we have been looking into the whole relocating down under for 4 months, my partner is also in the rail industry he is a Driver. he doesn't qualify as not on SOL list, I am a Trainer for Social Work and a senior residential Care officer for older adults and adults with Learning disabilities, we don't qualify for a 175 visa so need to go for a sponsor 457. these are like gold dust. applied for over 100 jobs advertised on SEEK and MY Career, all employers are interested but say when we are there they would love to take my application further, I am also looking for sponsorship advice and how to get one as the way i am going it doesn't look likely. We didn't want to hire an agent as yet as no certainty of gaining a visa and some charge £1000 up front. if you get any better info or advice can you let me know there is an EXPO in Leeds next weekend but people have said unless you are on the SOL list they aren't interested in you. Would love to keep in touch and if I get any info that might be of ue i will forward it on. Have you checked if your occupation is on the SOL list?
Anyway best of luck
Fiona

[FEE14]

Originally Posted by Gollywobbler

Hello Lynda

Welcome to Poms in Oz.



Please don't get drawn into appointing an Agent at this stage. Speak to several and have free chats with them all but leave it firmly at that.

The reason why I say this is because the railway companies in NSW and Victoria sometimes have recruitment drives. When they do (as they early in 2007) they tend to draw up a short list of applicants, send someone to the UK to interview them and then they offer a temporary subclass 457 visa to start with, with a promise of employer sponsorship for PR later on.

The first thing to do in your situation is to define Hubby's current occupation by reference to the ASCO Code:

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausst...$File/asco.pdf

The alphabetical index of occupations is at the back. The Code works peculiarly, computer-wise. If the job is on Pge 100 but you go to Page 100 according to Adobe, it will actually be about Page 92 of the Code itself. So let Adobe take you to the right general area and then use the page numbering at the foot of each page in the Code itself in order to find Page 100 of the Code, if you see what I mean.

Trust me, Hubby is in the ASCO Code somewhere! The thing is incredibly detailed. The trick is to find out what his Aussie/ASCO job-title is if you see what I mean.

In the Index, nothing under "Railway" instantly leaps off the page looking like a clone of your OH. Since you say he is an Operations Manager, I doubt if he is a "General Manager." He sounds more specialised than that.

OH might be a "Specialist Manager Not Elsewhere Classified - Code 1299-79" because Airport Manager and Harbourmaster are both in that group? (But God knows why Archbishop is in the same group!) You would have to ask OH how closely his role would compare with the role of an Airport Manager or Harbourmaster. This role is on Page 92 of the Code.

What I would call a "Railway Signalman" is described by ASCO as a "Train Controller" on Page 487 of the Code - 7129-13. Dunno. I doubt that this person is OH? I tend to think a Railway Operations Manager is more like a Harbourmaster in terms of the sorts of tasks which are his responsibility?

OH could be a Transport Company Manager on Page 266?

I doubt whether he is really a Transport Operations Inspector on Page 445?

You really need to get OH to sit down with the ASCO Code and tell us which job-description in the thing fits him to a tee.

Having established his ASCO job-title, the next step is to see whether the occupation is on the SOL:

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1121i.pdf

If it is not on the SOL, is it on the ENSOL?

If it is not on the ENSOL either then it boils down to the idea that Hubby's employer is probably in Regional Australia, able to take advantage of the Regional Employer Concessions for the 457 visa and the RSMS visa as a route to Permanent Residency.

There must be a reason why two or three guys on here last year seemed to be headed in the direction of regional NSW/Victoria and they were heading off on employer-sponsored 457 visas. I have no idea about the rail network in Oz - I assume that freight trains in Oz use the same tracks as passenger trains but I do not know for sure.

However it is at this end of things that you need to start unless you have an occupation which is less difficult to define in Australian terms than Hubby's?

Try here:

A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information

Once you have "identified" OH, please sing out again and we can progress matters from there.

Best wishes

Gill

Hi Gill, I am new to PIO so please excuse me if i ask daft questions, I read your reply to Lynda and your advice was very detailed. i am having difficutly in clasifying my occupation and my OH, He is a train driver and i know isnt on the SOL list. I have a few options but not sure how to progress with them can you give me a step for a hint. I am a senior residential care officer and currently work for Social Work as a Trainer. res car officer is on SOL list but need sponsor have applied to over100 jobs advertised on SEEK and My Career, and although employers are interested they all want you there already or come and see us when in Oz, I am not sure how or if you can apply directly to the state for sponosrship, Training officer is on the SOL list but i only have an HNC and not a degree I can complete an oz required cert for trainer, as a distance learner but not sure if this would then allow me to apply as a trainer and this would be a 175 visa not a 457. it is so confusing and didnt want to get an agent right now without a definate route of geining a visa
any info would be so helpful i am pulling my hair out and not getting anywhere even if i had a clear line to follow as now i am applying to jobs advertised every day and getting nowhere
hope you are well
Fiona

[LYNDA BOOTH]

Mags this english test do we need sit it before i apply

[LYNDA BOOTH]

Hi Gill
Thanks for your reply. They don`t make this easy do they. ha! you supplied some good information there. How about yourself any luck for you. I printed off the skilled occupation sheet. Agree don`t think he comes under general Manager, But I`m sure it said managers and admin workers in not classed as skilled occupations?